Rolls Royce Silver Shadow/Spur/Sprit advice

#11

In article <4udphbF17bjtcU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net>,
RichardK <atari (AT) NOSPAMbtconnect (DOT) com> wrote:

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Rolls-Royce mass produced?

Silver Shadow may have well has been, they're considerably more
plentiful than Austin 3-litres

, the bodies were produced by Pressed
Steel...

All the 'standard' cars have been since WW2.

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Do you REALLY think they're going to be reliable?

Yes. Well, they are not the same as other cars, they are not built down
to a price. They should have been made to a lot higher standard than
anything else.

Should have.

They were trimmed to a higher standard. But the electrical components
are much the same as anything else of the era. The Shadow II is what it
is, and that's WHY they're £5K (or less) these days.

The wire may be the same, but pretty well all the switches etc are
bespoke. Remember Lucas made aerospace stuff as well as shite.

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If you really must - and I suppose from a BMW, a Rolls Royce is about
the only way the nouveau-riché can go - then the pick of the bunch for
reliability, image (though, I'm afraid no-one will know you're loaded
instantly as they would with the Spirit of Ecstacy atop your grille)

LOL, do you know me?

*snorts*

Well, I was thinking the Rolls would be more suitable for everyday, as
the Bentley's engine has been tinkered with and tuned, and therefore
more prone to brake. More to go wrong. Especially, the turbocharged
versions.

It's an iron V8. And the Eight isn't turbocharged.

Eh? It's an all ally unit.

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#12

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

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In article <4udphbF17bjtcU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net>,
RichardK <atari (AT) NOSPAMbtconnect (DOT) com> wrote:
Rolls-Royce mass produced?

Silver Shadow may have well has been, they're considerably more
plentiful than Austin 3-litres

, the bodies were produced by Pressed
Steel...

All the 'standard' cars have been since WW2.

Which is, oddly enough, about the same time Rolls Royces ceased to be
interesting to me.

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The wire may be the same, but pretty well all the switches etc are
bespoke. Remember Lucas made aerospace stuff as well as shite.

And aerospace stuff is checked out more frequently. You know that Shadow
IIs are as rot prone and potentially unreliable as any 1970s British
luxury car...

It's an iron V8. And the Eight isn't turbocharged.

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Eh? It's an all ally unit.

Rolls Royce V8? I thought it was iron, but it's alloy, with cast iron
wet liners. Learn something new every day.

Richard

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#13

In article <4uec22F17ncrkU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net>,
RichardK <atari (AT) NOSPAMbtconnect (DOT) com> wrote:

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article <4udphbF17bjtcU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net>,
RichardK <atari (AT) NOSPAMbtconnect (DOT) com> wrote:
Rolls-Royce mass produced?

Silver Shadow may have well has been, they're considerably more
plentiful than Austin 3-litres

, the bodies were produced by
Pressed Steel...

All the 'standard' cars have been since WW2.

Which is, oddly enough, about the same time Rolls Royces ceased to be
interesting to me.

Maybe, but a pre-war one isn't going to be terribly suitable for daily use
these days.

My favourite Rolls is the Cloud - an elegant design and timeless. I had an
S1 Bentley for many years and wish I still had it.

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The wire may be the same, but pretty well all the switches etc are
bespoke. Remember Lucas made aerospace stuff as well as shite.

And aerospace stuff is checked out more frequently. You know that Shadow
IIs are as rot prone and potentially unreliable as any 1970s British
luxury car...

Or any other comparable car of that era? And especially the Jag you
recommended. They rusted for England. We're talking near 40 years old.
But with the electrics they can be fixed. No surface mount throw it away
stuff.

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It's an iron V8. And the Eight isn't turbocharged.

Eh? It's an all ally unit.

Rolls Royce V8? I thought it was iron, but it's alloy, with cast iron
wet liners. Learn something new every day.

It's very similar in layout to the Rover V-8. I wouldn't be surprised if
the same engineers were involved with both units at one time.

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Dave Plowman (News) (dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying :

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Rolls Royce V8? I thought it was iron, but it's alloy, with cast iron
wet liners. Learn something new every day.

It's very similar in layout to the Rover V-8. I wouldn't be surprised
if the same engineers were involved with both units at one time.

Unlikely - IIRC the Royce v8 was British designed and loosely based on a
Chrysler lump, whilst the Rover unit was of course bought in from GM.

#15

In article <Xns989A67CEEBE4Aadrianachapmanfreeis (AT) 204 (DOT) 153.244.170>,
Adrian <toomany2cvs (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

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It's very similar in layout to the Rover V-8. I wouldn't be surprised
if the same engineers were involved with both units at one time.

Unlikely - IIRC the Royce v8 was British designed and loosely based on a
Chrysler lump,

Ah - I thought it was based on a GM design. Rolls had tie ups with them
through their auto boxes.

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whilst the Rover unit was of course bought in from GM.

It was based on the Buick design but not identical and certainly not
bought in from them - it was made in the UK using different casting
processes.

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#16

RichardK wrote:

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if you gave me a Shadow/Spirit free, I'd rapidly
find someone to trade it with for something less obnoxious, like a
gold-plated Hummer or something.

I wouldn't. The plasma cutter and I have a hankering to make a
pickup... 8-)

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offer it as a swap for the best Citroen CX or even XM I could find).

I've already had an XM. Wouldn't mind a CX (or an SM!) though. At least
their hydraulics are more reliable than my limited exposure to Shadows!

#17

Yippee wrote:

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I wouldn't. The plasma cutter and I have a hankering to make a
pickup... 8-)

Ah, sir has taste...

http://www.portharbor.com/centralauto/xcapickup.htm

Cousin Jim-Bob done got hi'self some class!

#18

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Ah, sir has taste...

http://www.portharbor.com/centralauto/xcapickup.htm

Doing that to a Rolls Royce should be a criminal offence.

#19

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if you gave me a Shadow/Spirit free, I'd rapidly
find someone to trade it with for something less obnoxious, like a
gold-plated Hummer or something.

Well Harry Hill has got one
http://www.harry-hill.tv/p1.html

#20

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

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Or any other comparable car of that era? And especially the Jag you
recommended. They rusted for England. We're talking near 40 years old.
But with the electrics they can be fixed. No surface mount throw it away
stuff.

I don't recommend a Jaguar of the same era, though - I recommended a
much newer Jaguar. It is as much about image, though - I like Bentley,
not Rolls Royce.

Richard

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