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| WTF do ya want?? I just drove 1200+ miles in about 17 hours and I'm beat. <G You'll do anything to get the "machine" back won't ya........ <VBG Denny No, if I took it the wailing I'd here from you would be too much to bear. I also remember all the work you did to get it. Look how it kept you occupied this past week. Had nothing to do with your "machine". I gotta tell you tho, the ole JD hasn't missed a beat so far. Everythings been running good so far, got about a hundred acres of beans to finnish up next week. Looking forward to a bit of a break. |
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That damn car was fantastic on the drive both way's. It let's you move through traffic and change lanes instantly. Gotta love all the HP and instant response. Just out of curiosity, what kind of mpg you getting out on the highway?? |
will drop to 17.5 I've never had less on the highway, remember it does not
have the cyl cut out or whatever ya call it. What's nice is at those speeds
it stops as fast as it goes. Those Brembo's are a good piece.
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A very comfortable car. Only problem with it is the crap in the cooling. Mike was going to look into it from his end. Oh, I warped a set of rotor's as well. Had to hit them hard at about 80mph a few times then I started to get the shimmy at high speed applications. With getting your fat ass stopped from 80 mph I'm surprized it ain't got a drag chute on it. |
contoured seat?
I'm sure there is no weight used on the JD.
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"Denny" <wddodge (AT) woh (DOT) rr.com> wrote in message news:46506869$0$2384$4c368faf (AT) roadrunner (DOT) com... WTF do ya want?? I just drove 1200+ miles in about 17 hours and I'm beat. <G You'll do anything to get the "machine" back won't ya........ <VBG Denny No, if I took it the wailing I'd here from you would be too much to bear. I also remember all the work you did to get it. Look how it kept you occupied this past week. Had nothing to do with your "machine". I gotta tell you tho, the ole JD hasn't missed a beat so far. Everythings been running good so far, got about a hundred acres of beans to finnish up next week. Looking forward to a bit of a break. Good deal. Does "the machine{" fit on the JD? |
the east coast for a few years now.
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That damn car was fantastic on the drive both way's. It let's you move through traffic and change lanes instantly. Gotta love all the HP and instant response. Just out of curiosity, what kind of mpg you getting out on the highway?? At 70mph it will get a constant 20-21 mpg depending on grade. At 75-90+ it will drop to 17.5 I've never had less on the highway, remember it does not have the cyl cut out or whatever ya call it. What's nice is at those speeds it stops as fast as it goes. Those Brembo's are a good piece. |
get 14 on the highway if I kept it below 50. But it'd outrun your pos any
day.. <VBG> Notice I didn't say out-stop or out-handle...
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A very comfortable car. Only problem with it is the crap in the cooling. Mike was going to look into it from his end. Oh, I warped a set of rotor's as well. Had to hit them hard at about 80mph a few times then I started to get the shimmy at high speed applications. With getting your fat ass stopped from 80 mph I'm surprized it ain't got a drag chute on it. The question the begs to be asked is: Will your fat ass fit in the contoured seat? |
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I'm sure there is no weight used on the JD. |
running 7-8% slippage.
Denny
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"Roy" <Roy (AT) home (DOT) net> wrote in message news:yNKdnZP68ILg8c3bnZ2dnUVZ_tSunZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com... "Denny" <wddodge (AT) woh (DOT) rr.com> wrote in message news:46506869$0$2384$4c368faf (AT) roadrunner (DOT) com... WTF do ya want?? I just drove 1200+ miles in about 17 hours and I'm beat. <G You'll do anything to get the "machine" back won't ya........ <VBG Denny No, if I took it the wailing I'd here from you would be too much to bear. I also remember all the work you did to get it. Look how it kept you occupied this past week. Had nothing to do with your "machine". I gotta tell you tho, the ole JD hasn't missed a beat so far. Everythings been running good so far, got about a hundred acres of beans to finnish up next week. Looking forward to a bit of a break. Good deal. Does "the machine{" fit on the JD? Not at all. Haven't even had the opportunity to try it since it's been on the east coast for a few years now. That damn car was fantastic on the drive both way's. It let's you move through traffic and change lanes instantly. Gotta love all the HP and instant response. Just out of curiosity, what kind of mpg you getting out on the highway?? At 70mph it will get a constant 20-21 mpg depending on grade. At 75-90+ it will drop to 17.5 I've never had less on the highway, remember it does not have the cyl cut out or whatever ya call it. What's nice is at those speeds it stops as fast as it goes. Those Brembo's are a good piece. That isn't bad for that kind of performance. My old big-block Camaro would get 14 on the highway if I kept it below 50. But it'd outrun your pos any day.. <VBG> Notice I didn't say out-stop or out-handle... |
are 12.9 low 13's. Having to do with driver, weather, elevation and so on.
Top speed some have posted pic's and vid's of 165mph Not too shabby for a 4
door.Doubtful your Camaro could turn that. I know that the 69 I had could
but it was far from stock. Glass nose, and stuff like that. Not a registered
street car. Actually it was a cheater, was a 427. No way would it get to
165MPH with the rear gears.
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A very comfortable car. Only problem with it is the crap in the cooling. Mike was going to look into it from his end. Oh, I warped a set of rotor's as well. Had to hit them hard at about 80mph a few times then I started to get the shimmy at high speed applications. With getting your fat ass stopped from 80 mph I'm surprized it ain't got a drag chute on it. The question the begs to be asked is: Will your fat ass fit in the contoured seat? Yes it will. I've got to put my fingerprints on a couple of them so far.. |
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I'm sure there is no weight used on the JD. Guess again. Had to put fluid in the inside dual this spring and it still's running 7-8% slippage. |
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"Denny" <wddodge (AT) woh (DOT) rr.com> wrote in message news:46507dbf$0$15089$4c368faf (AT) roadrunner (DOT) com... "Roy" <Roy (AT) home (DOT) net> wrote in message news:yNKdnZP68ILg8c3bnZ2dnUVZ_tSunZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com... "Denny" <wddodge (AT) woh (DOT) rr.com> wrote in message news:46506869$0$2384$4c368faf (AT) roadrunner (DOT) com... WTF do ya want?? I just drove 1200+ miles in about 17 hours and I'm beat. <G You'll do anything to get the "machine" back won't ya........ <VBG Denny No, if I took it the wailing I'd here from you would be too much to bear. I also remember all the work you did to get it. Look how it kept you occupied this past week. Had nothing to do with your "machine". I gotta tell you tho, the ole JD hasn't missed a beat so far. Everythings been running good so far, got about a hundred acres of beans to finnish up next week. Looking forward to a bit of a break. Good deal. Does "the machine{" fit on the JD? Not at all. Haven't even had the opportunity to try it since it's been on the east coast for a few years now. That damn car was fantastic on the drive both way's. It let's you move through traffic and change lanes instantly. Gotta love all the HP and instant response. Just out of curiosity, what kind of mpg you getting out on the highway?? At 70mph it will get a constant 20-21 mpg depending on grade. At 75-90+ it will drop to 17.5 I've never had less on the highway, remember it does not have the cyl cut out or whatever ya call it. What's nice is at those speeds it stops as fast as it goes. Those Brembo's are a good piece. That isn't bad for that kind of performance. My old big-block Camaro would get 14 on the highway if I kept it below 50. But it'd outrun your pos any day.. <VBG> Notice I didn't say out-stop or out-handle... Stock out of the box, I've seen time slips that vary from 12.80 on up most are 12.9 low 13's. Having to do with driver, weather, elevation and so on. Top speed some have posted pic's and vid's of 165mph Not too shabby for a 4 door.Doubtful your Camaro could turn that. I know that the 69 I had could but it was far from stock. Glass nose, and stuff like that. Not a registered street car. Actually it was a cheater, was a 427. No way would it get to 165MPH with the rear gears. |
part. I had tags on mine just so I could put 50 miles a summer on it. Them
was "fun" miles. <VBG>
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A very comfortable car. Only problem with it is the crap in the cooling. Mike was going to look into it from his end. Oh, I warped a set of rotor's as well. Had to hit them hard at about 80mph a few times then I started to get the shimmy at high speed applications. With getting your fat ass stopped from 80 mph I'm surprized it ain't got a drag chute on it. The question the begs to be asked is: Will your fat ass fit in the contoured seat? Yes it will. I've got to put my fingerprints on a couple of them so far.. I didn't say touch them! I said get your fat ass into the seat. |
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purdy as I ever was...
Denny
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"Roy" <Roy (AT) home (DOT) net> wrote in message news:e5GdnQt2j5bOCM3bnZ2dnUVZ_oernZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com... "Denny" <wddodge (AT) woh (DOT) rr.com> wrote in message news:46507dbf$0$15089$4c368faf (AT) roadrunner (DOT) com... "Roy" <Roy (AT) home (DOT) net> wrote in message news:yNKdnZP68ILg8c3bnZ2dnUVZ_tSunZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com... "Denny" <wddodge (AT) woh (DOT) rr.com> wrote in message news:46506869$0$2384$4c368faf (AT) roadrunner (DOT) com... WTF do ya want?? I just drove 1200+ miles in about 17 hours and I'm beat. <G You'll do anything to get the "machine" back won't ya........ <VBG Denny No, if I took it the wailing I'd here from you would be too much to bear. I also remember all the work you did to get it. Look how it kept you occupied this past week. Had nothing to do with your "machine". I gotta tell you tho, the ole JD hasn't missed a beat so far. Everythings been running good so far, got about a hundred acres of beans to finnish up next week. Looking forward to a bit of a break. Good deal. Does "the machine{" fit on the JD? Not at all. Haven't even had the opportunity to try it since it's been on the east coast for a few years now. That damn car was fantastic on the drive both way's. It let's you move through traffic and change lanes instantly. Gotta love all the HP and instant response. Just out of curiosity, what kind of mpg you getting out on the highway?? At 70mph it will get a constant 20-21 mpg depending on grade. At 75-90+ it will drop to 17.5 I've never had less on the highway, remember it does not have the cyl cut out or whatever ya call it. What's nice is at those speeds it stops as fast as it goes. Those Brembo's are a good piece. That isn't bad for that kind of performance. My old big-block Camaro would get 14 on the highway if I kept it below 50. But it'd outrun your pos any day.. <VBG> Notice I didn't say out-stop or out-handle... Stock out of the box, I've seen time slips that vary from 12.80 on up most are 12.9 low 13's. Having to do with driver, weather, elevation and so on. Top speed some have posted pic's and vid's of 165mph Not too shabby for a 4 door.Doubtful your Camaro could turn that. I know that the 69 I had could but it was far from stock. Glass nose, and stuff like that. Not a registered street car. Actually it was a cheater, was a 427. No way would it get to 165MPH with the rear gears. Mine was a '67 with a 402. It'd run high 11's most of the time if I did my part. I had tags on mine just so I could put 50 miles a summer on it. Them was "fun" miles. <VBG |
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A very comfortable car. Only problem with it is the crap in the cooling. Mike was going to look into it from his end. Oh, I warped a set of rotor's as well. Had to hit them hard at about 80mph a few times then I started to get the shimmy at high speed applications. With getting your fat ass stopped from 80 mph I'm surprized it ain't got a drag chute on it. The question the begs to be asked is: Will your fat ass fit in the contoured seat? Yes it will. I've got to put my fingerprints on a couple of them so far.. I didn't say touch them! I said get your fat ass into the seat. It'll fit just fine. A much looser fit for me than you if I might say.. I'm sure there is no weight used on the JD. Guess again. Had to put fluid in the inside dual this spring and it still's running 7-8% slippage. What happened ya go on a diet??<VBG Actually yes. I've managed to stay 195-198 for a year now. And I'm still as purdy as I ever was... |
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Actually yes. I've managed to stay 195-198 for a year now. And I'm still as purdy as I ever was... Now put both feet on the scale. |
Denny
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"Beryl" <terrapin (AT) coolbits (DOT) net> wrote in message news:134vg1ref80ep5a (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com... Roy wrote: "Beryl" <terrapin (AT) coolbits (DOT) net> wrote in message news:134t1fojhmdhkd8 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com... Roy wrote: "Beryl" <terrapin (AT) coolbits (DOT) net> wrote in message news:134qt6doaj3fn98 (AT) corpsupernews (DOT) com... Roy wrote: "Beryl" <terrapin (AT) coolbits (DOT) net> wrote in message news:134qh8kaft2av47 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com... How heavy would you use? *heavy*, Skippy! I think I already said that. C'mon crotch cannibal, that was a question. How *heavy*? Or is it beyond you to answer? Look if ya don't know(seems ya don't) roll over, give the Idiot a slap on the ass wake him up and ask him. I'm sure by now you've done some research and have some sort of a answer, don't ya troll boy? *WOW* your replies are getting short! There were several points worthy of further discussion, where did everything go??? My first answer to Big Al wasn't "profound" enough for you. Why don't you elaborate on it a bit? You probably, no, *definitely*, should comment on my assertion that connecting a 12V car battery to a 12V motorcycle might not be a good idea. Do you agree, or disagree, or have any thoughts at all? Tell us! How about the parallel battery setup that I called a poor design, Dodge does that don't they? I haven't seen Dodge's dual battery setup personally, but I'm pretty sure it's been mentioned here. And I don't recall ever seeing any negative comments about it. If it's as I think it is, then I just called it LOUSY, and nobody wants to comment? What do you think about it, Skippy? Well, took ya some time to get cleaned up. Still didn't answer the question. LOL! WTF do ya want?? I just drove 1200+ miles in about 17 hours and I'm beat. G |
expected me to stay up til 4:00 to await your next reply.
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This explains it ALL!!! He was home schooled and his mommy
made his GES diploma for him out of needle point, to go
with his pin head and needle dick.
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In article <134vvhrp70r700c (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com>, Beryl <terrapin (AT) coolbits (DOT) net> wrote: Neil Nelson wrote: In article <134vghmcbjan57f (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com>, Beryl <terrapin (AT) coolbits (DOT) net> wrote Neil Nelson wrote: In article <134qh8kaft2av47 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com>, Beryl <terrapin (AT) coolbits (DOT) net> wrote: The cranking relay won't isolate the two batteries while parked though. The danger there is being stuck at camp with two dead batteries. Apparently you don't understand the function of the relay in this circuit or how it works. There is no "this circuit". Sure there is. OEMs have been making them available for years. Look, Neil, there was no "this", and now there's no "them". There are many circuits. There are many thick headed people also, but this isn't about you or your minions. |
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Big Al described this: "You need to isolate the trailer battery while the truck is cranking." I don't really care how Big Al described it. Then you don't care about what I replied to, because that's what I replied to. That's quite the crystal ball you've got there. |
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"You need to isolate the trailer battery while the truck is cranking. Otherwise the trailer battery will try to help feed the starter. You can use a relay connected to the radio feed, the radio goes off when cranking." - Big Al "When the truck is parked and the ignition is switched off, the batteries are isolated from each other preventing the vehicle battery from being discharged from electrical usage in the trailer. i.e., the relay is not energized, there is no direct positive cable connection between the two batteries." - Neil Is the ignition switched off when cranking? Um, no, better not be. Is the engine cranking when the ignition is switched on? Does the word "ignition" describe just a circuit? Does the word "ignition" describe a switch which has multiple positions and/or modes of operation? If the component in question is installed in a Diesel vehicle, must we now call it a 'compression switch' because Diesel engine don't have an ignition system? If a thick headed person is shown to be wrong, does arguing semantics bolster his position? |
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So then, you have the batteries connected while cranking, I never said I would connect the relay to an ignition feed. |
power, same as Al would? And that's why "this circuit" covers everything?
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I only described the state that a particular switch was positioned to. |
cranking.
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and Al has them isolated at the same time. Are you both talking about the same circuit? What circuit? According to you, there is no circuit. |
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You claimed that in "this circuit" the only time they are tied together is when the engine is running. But Al has them tied together whenever the radio will play. Is that the same thing? Can you think of a way one might have an advantage over the other? |
truck's CD player over dinner, while his trailer's lights drain the
truck battery.
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And you're going on to describe something *entirely different* below. Nope, not entirely different. Just appears so to you because (as I said) you don't know what the circuit does or how it functions. You don't really care about what Big Al said, so you'll just ramble on about your circuit instead. Go ahead... "Ramble?" I would never entertain the thought of competing with you... When the truck is parked and the ignition is switched off, the batteries are isolated from each other preventing the vehicle battery from being discharged from electrical usage in the trailer. i.e., the relay is not energized, there is no direct positive cable connection between the two batteries. Two batteries in parallel isn't the best setup either. The weaker battery will draw the stronger one down to its level. Won't happen. The only time the two batteries are connected together is when the tow vehicle's engine is running via the now energized isolation relay, if the engine is running, the circuit voltage to both batteries is higher that the static open circuit voltage of the batteries, the batteries are now being charged, there is no "weaker" battery. Differences in internal resistance between the two batteries will cause the battery with lower resistance to draw more current, but that is the only difference. This may not matter much with a popup camping trailer that sees only occasional use, but is a poor design when two or more batteries are always tied together. The batteries -aren't- always tied together. the only time they are tied together is when the engine is running and they are being charged.semantic You should endeavor to learn how a properly connected isolation relay works. (assuming that you can find time in between calling people names) Boo-hoo. So true! What's true to you, Neil? Are you having a problem following the attributes? (that's a question, not an answer) |
you'd get upset.
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This explains it ALL!!! He was home schooled and his mommy
made his GES diploma for him out of needle point, to go
with his pin head and needle dick.
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We can argue if you like, Neil, but I might end up naming you Nell. Then you'd get upset. |
I offered an explanation as to why your deductions were in error.
Apparently, it upsets you that you were wrong and that I know
more about the subject than you.
I'll make it real simple. (assume you have at least seven fingers
and/or toes left)
There are seven output circuits from the ignition switch on a
2002 Dodge Dakota;
Circuit #2 is hot in the run and start position.
Circuit #3 is hot in the run and start position
Circuit #7 is hot in the run position only
Circuit #8 is hot in the run position only
Circuit #9 is hot in the run position and the accessory position
Circuit #10 is hot in the run position and the accessory position
Circuit #13 is hot in the start position only
From the above factory information, it is easy to see that it is
possible to tap into two of these circuits to trigger an
auxiliary battery isolation relay so that the relay would -only-
be energized when the ignition switch is in the engine running
position, the relay would -not- be energized during engine crank
and the relay would not be energized if the ignition switch were
in the accessory position.
If I were wiring this relay for a customer, I would not wire it
as Big Al suggested, not because his way wouldn't work but
because his way leaves an error mode that the customer may not
realize resulting in a drained vehicle battery.
IOWs, because of certain people who can't fathom how a battery
isolation circuit works, things have to be made as idiot proof as
possible.
Now, feel free to call me any name that you choose; Nell,
Nellybell, Bob and Neil, Aardvark, punkin, sweetcheeks,
hermaphrodite, etc. because after all, there is nothing wrong
with one more confirmation from you of what type of person you
really are.
FYI, if there was even the slightest chance that anything you say
could "upset" me, why would I bother explaining your error to you?
Or say thank you for giving you a bit of free education.
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In article <13526dvse1orgc4 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com>, Beryl <terrapin (AT) coolbits (DOT) net> wrote: We can argue if you like, Neil, but I might end up naming you Nell. Then you'd get upset. Is that what you want Beryl? I offered an explanation as to why your deductions were in error. Apparently, it upsets you that you were wrong and that I know more about the subject than you. I'll make it real simple. (assume you have at least seven fingers and/or toes left) There are seven output circuits from the ignition switch on a 2002 Dodge Dakota; Circuit #2 is hot in the run and start position. Circuit #3 is hot in the run and start position Circuit #7 is hot in the run position only Circuit #8 is hot in the run position only Circuit #9 is hot in the run position and the accessory position Circuit #10 is hot in the run position and the accessory position Circuit #13 is hot in the start position only From the above factory information, it is easy to see that it is possible to tap into two of these circuits to trigger an auxiliary battery isolation relay so that the relay would -only- be energized when the ignition switch is in the engine running position, the relay would -not- be energized during engine crank and the relay would not be energized if the ignition switch were in the accessory position. If I were wiring this relay for a customer, I would not wire it as Big Al suggested, |
There goes "the circuit" you began arguing with me about. <poof>
Exactly as I said, NELL, "You don't really care about what Big Al said,
so you'll just ramble on about your circuit instead."
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not because his way wouldn't work but because his way leaves an error mode that the customer may not realize resulting in a drained vehicle battery. |
might have an advantage over the other?"
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IOWs, because of certain people who can't fathom how a battery isolation circuit works, things have to be made as idiot proof as possible. Now, feel free to call me any name that you choose; Nell, |
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Nellybell, Bob and Neil, Aardvark, punkin, sweetcheeks, hermaphrodite, etc. because after all, there is nothing wrong with one more confirmation from you of what type of person you really are. FYI, if there was even the slightest chance that anything you say could "upset" me, why would I bother explaining your error to you? |
Al was describing, and instead explaining your truely bitchin' and
amazing "this circuit" instead?
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Or say thank you for giving you a bit of free education. |
circuits from the ignition switch on a 2002 Dodge Dakota that I don't
own, thanks so much.
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This explains it ALL!!! He was home schooled and his mommy
made his GES diploma for him out of needle point, to go
with his pin head and needle dick.
-- punkin |
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