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Default Re: Ethanol - 03-31-2007 , 01:22 PM






On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 00:29:05 GMT, "Deputy Dog"
<dave@(removethis)sibbett.com> wrote:

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I have found that my 96 GTS with a stock 4.6 2V does not like gas with
ethanol mixed in. It pings like hell when I jump on it. Here in Pa most
generic Gas like hte crap from convienence stores has about 10% ethanol in
it. It runs sweet on the same grade from BP-Amoco.(didn't see the ethanol
diclaimer on their pumps though.). Any one else have a problem this the
ethanol mix?

Dave

My dad used convenience stores for years for his business fleet and
always had problems. We finally convinced him to start using major
brands. A lot of the problems went away. Now, many people tell me it's
the same gas, just under a different name. I don't know about that. I
do know I have less problems when I stay away from convenience store
fuel. Maybe it's just their storage tanks. Of course, California
forced all the stations to replace their tanks and hazmat the ground
where the old tanks sat. Maybe the convenience store tanks are OK now.


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GILL
 
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Default Re: Ethanol - 03-31-2007 , 01:58 PM






Spike wrote:
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On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 00:29:05 GMT, "Deputy Dog"
dave@(removethis)sibbett.com> wrote:

I have found that my 96 GTS with a stock 4.6 2V does not like gas with
ethanol mixed in. It pings like hell when I jump on it. Here in Pa most
generic Gas like hte crap from convienence stores has about 10% ethanol in
it. It runs sweet on the same grade from BP-Amoco.(didn't see the ethanol
diclaimer on their pumps though.). Any one else have a problem this the
ethanol mix?

Dave


My dad used convenience stores for years for his business fleet and
always had problems. We finally convinced him to start using major
brands. A lot of the problems went away. Now, many people tell me it's
the same gas, just under a different name. I don't know about that. I
do know I have less problems when I stay away from convenience store
fuel. Maybe it's just their storage tanks. Of course, California
forced all the stations to replace their tanks and hazmat the ground
where the old tanks sat. Maybe the convenience store tanks are OK now.
I thought the difference was in the additives. (Techron and whatnot)


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Jim Walker
 
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Default Re: Ethanol - 03-31-2007 , 05:45 PM



The main problem with off brand gas is they buy their gas from the major
brands and the majors use this as an oppertunity to clean the crude from
their storage tanks then the customers find their vehicles run much better
on major brands
Jim


"Spike" <veeger (AT) snowcrest (DOT) net> wrote

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On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 00:29:05 GMT, "Deputy Dog"
dave@(removethis)sibbett.com> wrote:

I have found that my 96 GTS with a stock 4.6 2V does not like gas with
ethanol mixed in. It pings like hell when I jump on it. Here in Pa most
generic Gas like hte crap from convienence stores has about 10% ethanol in
it. It runs sweet on the same grade from BP-Amoco.(didn't see the ethanol
diclaimer on their pumps though.). Any one else have a problem this the
ethanol mix?

Dave


My dad used convenience stores for years for his business fleet and
always had problems. We finally convinced him to start using major
brands. A lot of the problems went away. Now, many people tell me it's
the same gas, just under a different name. I don't know about that. I
do know I have less problems when I stay away from convenience store
fuel. Maybe it's just their storage tanks. Of course, California
forced all the stations to replace their tanks and hazmat the ground
where the old tanks sat. Maybe the convenience store tanks are OK now.



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Brent P
 
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Default Re: Ethanol - 04-01-2007 , 01:19 AM



In article <PDAPh.6421$DE1.781@pd7urf2no>, Jim Walker wrote:
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The main problem with off brand gas is they buy their gas from the major
brands and the majors use this as an oppertunity to clean the crude from
their storage tanks then the customers find their vehicles run much better
on major brands
everyone picks up their gasoline at the same depot and puts their
own additives in. It's all the same in pipeline. If the gas is bad at
particular stations it's because those particular stations have problems
with their tanks etc.




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Default Re: Ethanol - 04-03-2007 , 05:22 AM




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it takes more than 50 gallons of water to make 1 gallon of ethanol.- Hide quoted text -

Norman,
It takes 4 to 5 gallons of water to produce one gallon of ethanol. I
don't know how you got 50 but that number is WRONG.




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WindsorFox
 
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Default Re: Ethanol - 04-03-2007 , 12:58 PM



84_mustang_5.0 wrote:
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it takes more than 50 gallons of water to make 1 gallon of ethanol.- Hide quoted text -

Norman,
It takes 4 to 5 gallons of water to produce one gallon of ethanol. I
don't know how you got 50 but that number is WRONG.



He forgot to carry the one....


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Michael Johnson
 
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Default Re: Ethanol - 04-03-2007 , 05:32 PM



84_mustang_5.0 wrote:
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it takes more than 50 gallons of water to make 1 gallon of ethanol.- Hide quoted text -

Norman,
It takes 4 to 5 gallons of water to produce one gallon of ethanol. I
don't know how you got 50 but that number is WRONG.
It depends on if the corn was grown in an irrigated field.


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