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Default Mustang Shelby - 04-25-2007 , 07:48 PM






I was waiting for my car to get an oil change and took a look at a Mustang
Shelby (not the 500) and was shocked. Sticker for the Mustang GT 29K not too
bad. Shelby decorations 12K again not too bad. Market markup another 12K
they have to be drunk to think I am paying 24K to have Shelby on the trunk.



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.boB
 
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Default Re: Mustang Shelby - 04-26-2007 , 12:37 AM






Les Benn wrote:
Quote:
I was waiting for my car to get an oil change and took a look at a Mustang
Shelby (not the 500) and was shocked. Sticker for the Mustang GT 29K not too
bad. Shelby decorations 12K again not too bad. Market markup another 12K
they have to be drunk to think I am paying 24K to have Shelby on the trunk.


My local dealer wants $20K for "market adjustment".
Some local knucklehead will pay that. But I won't.
A year or two ago they had a GT on the lot. The
wanted $200K for "additional dealer profit". And, yes,
that's exactly what it said on the window sticker -
"additional dealer profit".

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Brent P
 
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Default Re: Mustang Shelby - 04-26-2007 , 12:45 PM



In article <1177604942.277517.246160 (AT) n35g2000prd (DOT) googlegroups.com>, NoOption5L (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:

Quote:
Solution: Get a regular GT and turn the wrenches yourself.
Well here's how that worked out last time.... I couldn't have the car
being down while I turned it into a product development experiment.
Thusly, modifications have been limited.

Quote:
You can
buy all the Shelby GT upgrades from Ford Racing Performance Parts for
under $3K.
I'm talking GT500. The shelby GT isn't even worth thinking about. But the
overcharging for them means the GT500 isn't getting reasonable any time soon.



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Default Re: Mustang Shelby - 04-26-2007 , 10:16 PM



On Apr 26, 11:45 am, tetraethylleadREMOVET... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com (Brent P)
wrote:

Quote:
Solution: Get a regular GT and turn the wrenches yourself.

Well here's how that worked out last time.... I couldn't have the car
being down while I turned it into a product development experiment.
Thusly, modifications have been limited.
I understand your dilemma. Many face/have faced the same situation.
But you know this obstacle isn't Mustang specific. I myself have
faced it many times and have ways to get my bolt-ons bolted on.

Quote:
You can buy all the Shelby GT upgrades from Ford Racing
Performance Parts for under $3K.

I'm talking GT500.
But he wasn't. He was talking Shelby GT.

Quote:
The shelby GT isn't even worth thinking about.
Why not? Stock 13.6/7s @ 103 isn't that bad, is it?

Quote:
But the overcharging for them means the GT500 isn't getting reasonable
any time soon.
Who cares? Why do you have to have a GT500? Why not just find a
'03-'04 Terminator? Prices of those have to be fairly reasonable now
and with a few _simple_ mods you can have an 11-second car.

So if you don't have to have the latest and greatest... again, problem
solved.

Patrick





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Brent P
 
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Default Re: Mustang Shelby - 04-26-2007 , 10:35 PM



In article <1177640212.022112.321100 (AT) c18g2000prb (DOT) googlegroups.com>, NoOption5L (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:
Quote:
On Apr 26, 11:45 am, tetraethylleadREMOVET... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com (Brent P)
wrote:

Solution: Get a regular GT and turn the wrenches yourself.

Well here's how that worked out last time.... I couldn't have the car
being down while I turned it into a product development experiment.
Thusly, modifications have been limited.

I understand your dilemma. Many face/have faced the same situation.
But you know this obstacle isn't Mustang specific. I myself have
faced it many times and have ways to get my bolt-ons bolted on.
And when the engineering project goes foul on tuesday morning on your
drive to work? Even through no fault of your own? Or even if you just
missed some little detail because you didn't know about it? I like my
cars to last a long time and being reliable. Turning them into
engineering projects doesn't do well for either. I'd do it if all I had
to do was reach into a parts bin to replace whatever broke.... like I
do with the products I work on... so what if I burned up a gear, just
reach into the box and get another one, there's only 439 left...

Quote:
You can buy all the Shelby GT upgrades from Ford Racing
Performance Parts for under $3K.

I'm talking GT500.

But he wasn't. He was talking Shelby GT.
You replied to me. Reply to the OP then. The topic had grown where I
stepped in.

Quote:
The shelby GT isn't even worth thinking about.

Why not? Stock 13.6/7s @ 103 isn't that bad, is it?
Because as you clearly pointed it out, it's a gussied up GT with a
jacked up price.

Quote:
But the overcharging for them means the GT500 isn't getting reasonable
any time soon.

Who cares? Why do you have to have a GT500?
I don't. I can always buy a non-ford instead. Which is what Ford is
encouraging me to do. Why people like you apologize for them I have no
idea. Guess it's the same disease that has people identify with the
democrats or the republicans.

Quote:
Why not just find a
'03-'04 Terminator? Prices of those have to be fairly reasonable now
and with a few _simple_ mods you can have an 11-second car.
I already own an SN95 mustang. I would need to do all the stuff I never
got around to doing on the one I have. I also don't want someone's used
car, plus I don't like the styling of 99-04. It grew on me so I don't
find it revolting, but I still have no desire to own one. If were to
cheap out and buy a used car, I would look for a 96-98 GT or cobra
with the same color exterior and interior as my 97.

Quote:
So if you don't have to have the latest and greatest... again, problem
solved.
Latest and greatest.... the GT500 is hardly such by any technology
measure. If I wanted latest and greatest there wouldn't even be a
production Ford on the consideration list. The GT500 is the only
new mustang that I find appealing. I think I've waited long enough for
Ford to have them on sale for a reasonable price without unusal hassle.
When I decide to stomach going to car dealerships, I'll probably start
out with the chevy (corvette) and BMW dealers and branch out from
there. I'd sooner spend way too much money for base 911 long before I
give a ford dealer 65K for a new mustang of any kind.




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GILL
 
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Default Re: Mustang Shelby - 04-28-2007 , 04:06 PM



NoOption5L (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:
Quote:
On Apr 27, 1:02 am, tetraethylleadREMOVET... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com (Brent P)
wrote:

Test.

Where did my reply to this post go?

Patrick
The one in which you said "> Whoa, wait a minute, dude!"?
That's the last one I see.


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Default Re: Mustang Shelby - 04-28-2007 , 06:40 PM



On Apr 28, 3:06 pm, GILL <g... (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:
Quote:
NoOptio... (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:

Test.

Where did my reply to this post go?

The one in which you said "> Whoa, wait a minute, dude!"?
That's the last one I see.
Gill,

No.

Damn it... now I have to retype the sucker. <sigh>

Patrick




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Brent P
 
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Default Re: Mustang Shelby - 04-29-2007 , 02:36 AM



In article <1177800003.436564.34900 (AT) e65g2000hsc (DOT) googlegroups.com>, NoOption5L (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:
Quote:
On Apr 28, 3:06 pm, GILL <g... (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:
NoOptio... (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:

Test.

Where did my reply to this post go?

The one in which you said "> Whoa, wait a minute, dude!"?
That's the last one I see.

Gill,

No.

Damn it... now I have to retype the sucker. <sigh
No need to bother. I'm done with this thread.




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Jeff Mayner
 
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Default Re: Mustang Shelby - 04-29-2007 , 08:29 PM



NoOption5L (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:
Quote:
On Apr 28, 3:06 pm, GILL <g... (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:
NoOptio... (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:

Test.

Where did my reply to this post go?

The one in which you said "> Whoa, wait a minute, dude!"?
That's the last one I see.

Gill,

No.

Damn it... now I have to retype the sucker. <sigh

Patrick
Don't you have it in your "Sent Items" folder?




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Michael Johnson
 
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Default Re: Mustang Shelby - 05-01-2007 , 12:11 AM



NoOption5L (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote:
Quote:
On Apr 25, 11:45 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com (Brent P)
wrote:

Les Benn wrote:
I was waiting for my car to get an oil change and took a look at a Mustang
Shelby (not the 500) and was shocked. Sticker for the Mustang GT 29K not too
bad. Shelby decorations 12K again not too bad. Market markup another 12K
they have to be drunk to think I am paying 24K to have Shelby on the trunk.

Solution: Get a regular GT and turn the wrenches yourself. You can
buy all the Shelby GT upgrades from Ford Racing Performance Parts for
under $3K. Do it this way and you save yourself $7K, plus the dealer/
stealer markup, and you'll have a car you can continue to modify
without the worry of hacking up a "future collectible".

Problem solved.
snip
I've turned enough wrenches on my '89 LX and I'm tired of doing it.
Ford told us last summer they were going to deliver enough GT500s to get
the price close to MSRP. They aren't doing this and I doubt they have
any plans to do it. This latest Shelby is just another gouge at the
wallets of loyal Mustang buyers.

I expected to be able to buy a 500 hp new Mustang with a warranty for
under $45k. Ford promised me, and everyone else, this would come to
pass. They think making a paltry few dollars on a limited run of
Mustangs is worth the ultimate cost of loyal customers? I won't be
buying a Mustang or Explorer or any hybrid from them again if the GT500
isn't sold in enough quantity to lower the sales price.

I see their sales numbers for April have tanked too. I now give Ford a
40% chance, at best, of surviving another 5 years as an independent
automaker. Frankly, I don't care if they make it or not. Remember,
this is coming from a guy that has bought only Fords for more than 20
years. As I said before, when they start losing loyal customers like me
they are in some really deep $hit. Pulling stunts like they have with
these Shelby Mustangs does nothing but damage, IMO.


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