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On Sat, 19 May 2007 09:34:16 -0400, "dwight" <tfrog93 (AT) gEEmail (DOT) com wrote something wonderfully witty: "The Wolf With the Red Roses" <Wolf (AT) Red (DOT) com> wrote in message news:3bbt43d7i5ur2jbgu11rrupo849nrmjngg (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... While I don't disagree with your hypothesis, the average American can't drive worth a shit to begin with. Therefore, we are all held to the LCD standard. I do disagree with your hypothesis. I'm the average American, and I think I drive fairly well. In fact, AS the average American, I drive better than 95% of the drivers out there. Where do you fall on the curve? dwight I can see that you are also a product of our educational system. If you are better then 95% of the drivers out there -- how on earth can you be average? |
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"The Wolf With the Red Roses" <Wolf (AT) Red (DOT) com> wrote in message news:ef0v439hktecund4qcqlm30723t54o1or8 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Sat, 19 May 2007 09:34:16 -0400, "dwight" <tfrog93 (AT) gEEmail (DOT) com wrote something wonderfully witty: "The Wolf With the Red Roses" <Wolf (AT) Red (DOT) com> wrote in message news:3bbt43d7i5ur2jbgu11rrupo849nrmjngg (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... While I don't disagree with your hypothesis, the average American can't drive worth a shit to begin with. Therefore, we are all held to the LCD standard. I do disagree with your hypothesis. I'm the average American, and I think I drive fairly well. In fact, AS the average American, I drive better than 95% of the drivers out there. Where do you fall on the curve? dwight I can see that you are also a product of our educational system. If you are better then 95% of the drivers out there -- how on earth can you be average? Because the average driver in American truly believes that he IS better than 95% of the rest. I repeat - where do you come in? |

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On Sat, 19 May 2007 22:21:26 -0400, "dwight" <tfrog93 (AT) gEEmail (DOT) com wrote something wonderfully witty: "The Wolf With the Red Roses" <Wolf (AT) Red (DOT) com> wrote in message news:ef0v439hktecund4qcqlm30723t54o1or8 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Sat, 19 May 2007 09:34:16 -0400, "dwight" <tfrog93 (AT) gEEmail (DOT) com wrote something wonderfully witty: "The Wolf With the Red Roses" <Wolf (AT) Red (DOT) com> wrote in message news:3bbt43d7i5ur2jbgu11rrupo849nrmjngg (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... While I don't disagree with your hypothesis, the average American can't drive worth a shit to begin with. Therefore, we are all held to the LCD standard. I do disagree with your hypothesis. I'm the average American, and I think I drive fairly well. In fact, AS the average American, I drive better than 95% of the drivers out there. Where do you fall on the curve? dwight I can see that you are also a product of our educational system. If you are better then 95% of the drivers out there -- how on earth can you be average? Because the average driver in American truly believes that he IS better than 95% of the rest. I repeat - where do you come in? I come in where ever I want. I've earned the right to, but that is a different issue. Mario Andretti I am not, but I've been to his driving school. I also got my first license in Germany in the early 70's. I don't cruise in the left lane, I pass in it. I turn on my headlights when it is raining or overcast. Oh, and I know where my turn signals are and how to use them. I also know how to drive in all weather conditions, how to control a skid, and pay more attention to the car in front of the one in front of me then I do the other way around. I also campaigned in several different classes of motorcycle road-racing over 30-years ago before it was popular. I've owned at one time or another almost every muscle car built and currently have a `95 Corvette, an `01 GT drop-top, an `07 Cadillac SRX with a Northstar V8, and an `06 Harley Classic sitting in garages or driveways. Am I average? No not quite, but then again the "average" American is -- well just average. It is one of the problems with this country. The LCD mindset. |
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Spike wrote: On Sat, 19 May 2007 16:40:21 -0400, Michael Johnson <cds (AT) erols (DOT) com wrote: Spike wrote: On Sat, 19 May 2007 04:22:35 -0400, The Wolf With the Red Roses Wolf (AT) Red (DOT) com> wrote: On Fri, 18 May 2007 19:40:41 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS (AT) yahoo (DOT) com (Brent P) wrote something wonderfully witty: In article <tubs43dka67g810qdt32hlkb15n7g8enc7 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, Spike wrote: On Fri, 18 May 2007 14:44:48 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS (AT) yahoo (DOT) com (Brent P) wrote: SNIP Yes, they have underposted speed limits for revenue collection too. And people burn speed cameras over there. And when one looks into their road safety because of said speed cameras, it's at best no improvement and sometimes more dangerous. But if you had researched the topic you would already know it and wouldn't be trying to recycle back to that to cover your ass here. While I don't disagree with your hypothesis, the average American can't drive worth a shit to begin with. Therefore, we are all held to the LCD standard. Actually, when you take into account the numbers of drivers, the conditions of the roads, etc, US drivers are not that bad compared to many other countries I have driven in. If you notice the drivers where you live and compare their driving to drivers who visit your particular locale, I would say that the "foreign" drivers are far worse. The local drivers have adopted their style in order to survive. The "foreign" drivers have not yet learned those survival techniques. A zillion cars flow into and out of the major metro areas like LA, SF, NY, etc, every day and survive the trip because the have learned the skills to survive. If that requires a driver to be rude, or act in other ways to survive, that's what they do. The person lacking those skills is the one most apt to initiate a chain reaction because they are trying to use the survival skills of their home territory. This is something man has used since long before the car. Environmental adaptation. For example, the colonists who adopted buckskin and blended into the woodlands the way the Indians did not only kept their scalps, but whipped the hell out of the British who wore red and marched in a straight line. The Brits failed to adopt the survival skills in the new environment. Reminds me of one of my favorite all time movies, "The Patriot". Mine, too. Or how about "Last of the Mohicans" when the Indians lined the roadway and the Brits walked right into the killing zone and never saw it coming? That is a great movie too. It has one of the best endings of any movie made, IMO. |
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On Sat, 19 May 2007 23:15:57 -0400, Michael Johnson <cds (AT) erols (DOT) com wrote something wonderfully witty: dwight wrote: "The Wolf With the Red Roses" <Wolf (AT) Red (DOT) com> wrote in message news:ef0v439hktecund4qcqlm30723t54o1or8 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Sat, 19 May 2007 09:34:16 -0400, "dwight" <tfrog93 (AT) gEEmail (DOT) com wrote something wonderfully witty: "The Wolf With the Red Roses" <Wolf (AT) Red (DOT) com> wrote in message news:3bbt43d7i5ur2jbgu11rrupo849nrmjngg (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... While I don't disagree with your hypothesis, the average American can't drive worth a shit to begin with. Therefore, we are all held to the LCD standard. I do disagree with your hypothesis. I'm the average American, and I think I drive fairly well. In fact, AS the average American, I drive better than 95% of the drivers out there. Where do you fall on the curve? dwight I can see that you are also a product of our educational system. If you are better then 95% of the drivers out there -- how on earth can you be average? Because the average driver in American truly believes that he IS better than 95% of the rest. I repeat - where do you come in? Moot question. He likes mass transit. ![]() Bet your ass. When I can't even go the speed limit because of the congestion on a 6/8 lane highway & gas is north of $3.00 bucks, I'd like to kick back & relax on the way home instead of arriving there more pissed off then when I left work. |
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"Michael Johnson" <cds (AT) erols (DOT) com> wrote in message news:bqqdnT9lS5ZMPdLbnZ2dnUVZ_sPinZ2d (AT) giganews (DOT) com... Spike wrote: On Sat, 19 May 2007 16:40:21 -0400, Michael Johnson <cds (AT) erols (DOT) com wrote: Spike wrote: On Sat, 19 May 2007 04:22:35 -0400, The Wolf With the Red Roses Wolf (AT) Red (DOT) com> wrote: On Fri, 18 May 2007 19:40:41 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS (AT) yahoo (DOT) com (Brent P) wrote something wonderfully witty: In article <tubs43dka67g810qdt32hlkb15n7g8enc7 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, Spike wrote: On Fri, 18 May 2007 14:44:48 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS (AT) yahoo (DOT) com (Brent P) wrote: SNIP Yes, they have underposted speed limits for revenue collection too. And people burn speed cameras over there. And when one looks into their road safety because of said speed cameras, it's at best no improvement and sometimes more dangerous. But if you had researched the topic you would already know it and wouldn't be trying to recycle back to that to cover your ass here. While I don't disagree with your hypothesis, the average American can't drive worth a shit to begin with. Therefore, we are all held to the LCD standard. Actually, when you take into account the numbers of drivers, the conditions of the roads, etc, US drivers are not that bad compared to many other countries I have driven in. If you notice the drivers where you live and compare their driving to drivers who visit your particular locale, I would say that the "foreign" drivers are far worse. The local drivers have adopted their style in order to survive. The "foreign" drivers have not yet learned those survival techniques. A zillion cars flow into and out of the major metro areas like LA, SF, NY, etc, every day and survive the trip because the have learned the skills to survive. If that requires a driver to be rude, or act in other ways to survive, that's what they do. The person lacking those skills is the one most apt to initiate a chain reaction because they are trying to use the survival skills of their home territory. This is something man has used since long before the car. Environmental adaptation. For example, the colonists who adopted buckskin and blended into the woodlands the way the Indians did not only kept their scalps, but whipped the hell out of the British who wore red and marched in a straight line. The Brits failed to adopt the survival skills in the new environment. Reminds me of one of my favorite all time movies, "The Patriot". Mine, too. Or how about "Last of the Mohicans" when the Indians lined the roadway and the Brits walked right into the killing zone and never saw it coming? That is a great movie too. It has one of the best endings of any movie made, IMO. I like My Cousin Vinnie. |

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On Sun, 20 May 2007 10:04:47 -0400, "dwight" <tfrog93 (AT) gEEmail (DOT) com wrote something wonderfully witty: "The Wolf With the Red Roses" <Wolf (AT) Red (DOT) com> wrote in message news:hltv4353ob25g6ppqtbfgcrk5523vve7d1 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Sat, 19 May 2007 22:21:26 -0400, "dwight" <tfrog93 (AT) gEEmail (DOT) com wrote something wonderfully witty: SNIP Personally, I think the average driver does fairly well. When I consider the millions of drivers in just the Philadelphia tri-state area, the fact that traffic just seems to "work", that the number of fender-benders is miniscule compared to the available pool of potential accidents, I think it's miraculous. Probably chaos theory at work. We have ton's of rear-enders where I live. I've been rear-ended three times in 14 years. Almost every accident I see is a rear-ender. |
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Yet EVERYONE (almost without exception) complains about the morons out there. So, when I see someone complaining about "the average American driver," I question what's behind that complaint. If I were a Christian, I would probably say something about letting the sinless cast the first stone, and that wouldn't be me. I've screwed up, and it's only because of the reactions of the average American drivers around me that my car hasn't been hit. Now, if you have never done anything stupid behind the wheel, if you've never caused any other drivers to hit their brakes, if you're a faultless driver, then I'm glad to meet you. You'd be the first. In damn near 4-decades of licensed driving I've never bee the cause of an accident, nor been involved in a solo one either in a car. I have had two solo street motorcycle incidents. I have no problem with the average driver. It's the boobs on the fringes who bother me - the ones who have no business driving, either because they're so BAD at it, or because they seem to believe they're much better than they really are. Guess it is just a difference of opinion. I think the average ones are the boobs. |
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