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Why is that? Because idiots like you (and me) have elected morons to Congress that created a bureacracy that hasn't allowed a new oil refinery to be built in America since 1976 -- when I was in HIGH SCHOOL. |
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And we've got plenty of oil. We know where it is, and the same bureacrats that won't allow a refinery to be built aren't letting the oil companies go get it. Billions of barrels of oil sit beneath Alaska and the continental shelf. |
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In article <1179456667.192914.321730 (AT) h2g2000hsg (DOT) googlegroups.com>, Jay Honeck wrote: Why is that? Because idiots like you (and me) have elected morons to Congress that created a bureacracy that hasn't allowed a new oil refinery to be built in America since 1976 -- when I was in HIGH SCHOOL. But only in that it keeps new companies from entering the business. Big oil likes it this way just fine. In fact, they made it this way. |
| http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/pr/?postId=5110 And we've got plenty of oil. We know where it is, and the same bureacrats that won't allow a refinery to be built aren't letting the oil companies go get it. Billions of barrels of oil sit beneath Alaska and the continental shelf. The world is awash in oil. Sure a lot of it takes a little more to turn into gasoline, but if we are willing to pay $US40 a barrel, and we obviously are, there are at least 3 saudi arabias worth of reserves in the americas. It's just not light sweet crude. |
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On Thu, 17 May 2007 22:37:44 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS (AT) yahoo (DOT) com (Brent P) wrote: In article <1179456667.192914.321730 (AT) h2g2000hsg (DOT) googlegroups.com>, Jay Honeck wrote: Why is that? Because idiots like you (and me) have elected morons to Congress that created a bureacracy that hasn't allowed a new oil refinery to be built in America since 1976 -- when I was in HIGH SCHOOL. But only in that it keeps new companies from entering the business. Big oil likes it this way just fine. In fact, they made it this way. It's Al Gore and his ilk who have pushed for the restrictions in order to save the environment. |
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And someone explain to me the strategy of shutting down "two of our largest oil refineries" for "routine maintenance" just before Memorial Day, a time when gasoline demand can reliably be expected to increase. |
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In article <0q8q435t1gh4corq5m57ivd9hbjb5sgs5u (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, Spike wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2007 22:37:44 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS (AT) yahoo (DOT) com (Brent P) wrote: In article <1179456667.192914.321730 (AT) h2g2000hsg (DOT) googlegroups.com>, Jay Honeck wrote: Why is that? Because idiots like you (and me) have elected morons to Congress that created a bureacracy that hasn't allowed a new oil refinery to be built in America since 1976 -- when I was in HIGH SCHOOL. But only in that it keeps new companies from entering the business. Big oil likes it this way just fine. In fact, they made it this way. It's Al Gore and his ilk who have pushed for the restrictions in order to save the environment. It makes for a great scape goat, but regulation is a great form of market protection. Look what giant agri-business is lobbying for regulation wise right now. Various animal tracking regulation that would be impossible or very expensive for the small farmers and ranchers to comply with while they can. http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/pr/?postId=5110 |
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On Thu, 17 May 2007 23:12:51 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS (AT) yahoo (DOT) com (Brent P) wrote: In article <0q8q435t1gh4corq5m57ivd9hbjb5sgs5u (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, Spike wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2007 22:37:44 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS (AT) yahoo (DOT) com (Brent P) wrote: In article <1179456667.192914.321730 (AT) h2g2000hsg (DOT) googlegroups.com>, Jay Honeck wrote: Why is that? Because idiots like you (and me) have elected morons to Congress that created a bureacracy that hasn't allowed a new oil refinery to be built in America since 1976 -- when I was in HIGH SCHOOL. But only in that it keeps new companies from entering the business. Big oil likes it this way just fine. In fact, they made it this way. It's Al Gore and his ilk who have pushed for the restrictions in order to save the environment. It makes for a great scape goat, but regulation is a great form of market protection. Look what giant agri-business is lobbying for regulation wise right now. Various animal tracking regulation that would be impossible or very expensive for the small farmers and ranchers to comply with while they can. http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/pr/?postId=5110 and another conspiracy raises it's ugly head.... and fire can't melt steel... right Rosie? |
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In article <d1rr43t1fpf2nnok88tdenogh3ek0e5pvk (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, Spike wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2007 23:12:51 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS (AT) yahoo (DOT) com (Brent P) wrote: In article <0q8q435t1gh4corq5m57ivd9hbjb5sgs5u (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, Spike wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2007 22:37:44 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS (AT) yahoo (DOT) com (Brent P) wrote: In article <1179456667.192914.321730 (AT) h2g2000hsg (DOT) googlegroups.com>, Jay Honeck wrote: Why is that? Because idiots like you (and me) have elected morons to Congress that created a bureacracy that hasn't allowed a new oil refinery to be built in America since 1976 -- when I was in HIGH SCHOOL. But only in that it keeps new companies from entering the business. Big oil likes it this way just fine. In fact, they made it this way. It's Al Gore and his ilk who have pushed for the restrictions in order to save the environment. It makes for a great scape goat, but regulation is a great form of market protection. Look what giant agri-business is lobbying for regulation wise right now. Various animal tracking regulation that would be impossible or very expensive for the small farmers and ranchers to comply with while they can. http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/pr/?postId=5110 and another conspiracy raises it's ugly head.... and fire can't melt steel... right Rosie? I see, just deny and insult. Typical. It's just so unbelivable that oil companies would act to maximize their profits and not care about the people that get stepped on in the process. I take it you believe Bill Gates didn't use Microsoft marketshare to strong arm computer makers from offering competitor's products? You think all business is done in a sweet and nice and fair way I suppose? Afterall, for this idea to be kooky, you have to believe that big oil companies would go 'we shouldn't do that because it cause gasoline to cost too much for many good americans'.... yeah right. |
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On Fri, 18 May 2007 14:50:07 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS (AT) yahoo (DOT) com (Brent P) wrote: In article <d1rr43t1fpf2nnok88tdenogh3ek0e5pvk (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, Spike wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2007 23:12:51 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS (AT) yahoo (DOT) com (Brent P) wrote: In article <0q8q435t1gh4corq5m57ivd9hbjb5sgs5u (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, Spike wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2007 22:37:44 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS (AT) yahoo (DOT) com (Brent P) wrote: In article <1179456667.192914.321730 (AT) h2g2000hsg (DOT) googlegroups.com>, Jay Honeck wrote: Why is that? Because idiots like you (and me) have elected morons to Congress that created a bureacracy that hasn't allowed a new oil refinery to be built in America since 1976 -- when I was in HIGH SCHOOL. But only in that it keeps new companies from entering the business. Big oil likes it this way just fine. In fact, they made it this way. It's Al Gore and his ilk who have pushed for the restrictions in order to save the environment. It makes for a great scape goat, but regulation is a great form of market protection. Look what giant agri-business is lobbying for regulation wise right now. Various animal tracking regulation that would be impossible or very expensive for the small farmers and ranchers to comply with while they can. http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/pr/?postId=5110 and another conspiracy raises it's ugly head.... and fire can't melt steel... right Rosie? I see, just deny and insult. Typical. It's just so unbelivable that oil companies would act to maximize their profits and not care about the people that get stepped on in the process. I take it you believe Bill Gates didn't use Microsoft marketshare to strong arm computer makers from offering competitor's products? You think all business is done in a sweet and nice and fair way I suppose? Afterall, for this idea to be kooky, you have to believe that big oil companies would go 'we shouldn't do that because it cause gasoline to cost too much for many good americans'.... yeah right. It would seem that the entire cycle of life is a consopiracy out to get you. Oil corporations, like any other corporation has no legal responsibility to the consumer other than to provide a safe product. The only fiduciary responsibility any corporation hasto anyone is to the shareholders who expect as great a return on their investments as the corporation can supply. In other words; that responsibility is to generate profits. The same applies to food corporations like Beatrice Foods and RJ Reynolds, to appliance corporations like General Electric, etc. Believe it or not, they do consider what price is too high for the consumer to bear. Bump it up too high and consumption actually does drop (we saw that in the mid 70s oil crisis). Cunsumers curtail travel plans and such. Which leads hotels, resorts, etc to have lower fill rates, so they lose money. The domino effect rolls on.... You probably think unions go on strike because they care about their members. That it is fair to force employers to pay employees more. And yet, employers don't pay more even when they raise pay. They simply pass the extra costs to the consumers... who, in many cases, just happen to be those very same union members who now need more money.... and the cycle continues. |
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On Fri, 18 May 2007 14:50:07 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS (AT) yahoo (DOT) com (Brent P) wrote: In article <d1rr43t1fpf2nnok88tdenogh3ek0e5pvk (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, Spike wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2007 23:12:51 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS (AT) yahoo (DOT) com (Brent P) wrote: In article <0q8q435t1gh4corq5m57ivd9hbjb5sgs5u (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, Spike wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2007 22:37:44 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS (AT) yahoo (DOT) com (Brent P) wrote: In article <1179456667.192914.321730 (AT) h2g2000hsg (DOT) googlegroups.com>, Jay Honeck wrote: Why is that? Because idiots like you (and me) have elected morons to Congress that created a bureacracy that hasn't allowed a new oil refinery to be built in America since 1976 -- when I was in HIGH SCHOOL. But only in that it keeps new companies from entering the business. Big oil likes it this way just fine. In fact, they made it this way. It's Al Gore and his ilk who have pushed for the restrictions in order to save the environment. It makes for a great scape goat, but regulation is a great form of market protection. Look what giant agri-business is lobbying for regulation wise right now. Various animal tracking regulation that would be impossible or very expensive for the small farmers and ranchers to comply with while they can. http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/pr/?postId=5110 and another conspiracy raises it's ugly head.... and fire can't melt steel... right Rosie? I see, just deny and insult. Typical. It's just so unbelivable that oil companies would act to maximize their profits and not care about the people that get stepped on in the process. I take it you believe Bill Gates didn't use Microsoft marketshare to strong arm computer makers from offering competitor's products? You think all business is done in a sweet and nice and fair way I suppose? Afterall, for this idea to be kooky, you have to believe that big oil companies would go 'we shouldn't do that because it cause gasoline to cost too much for many good americans'.... yeah right. It would seem that the entire cycle of life is a consopiracy out to get you. |
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Oil corporations, like any other corporation has no legal responsibility to the consumer other than to provide a safe product. The only fiduciary responsibility any corporation hasto anyone is to the shareholders who expect as great a return on their investments as the corporation can supply. In other words; that responsibility is to generate profits. The same applies to food corporations like Beatrice Foods and RJ Reynolds, to appliance corporations like General Electric, etc. |
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Believe it or not, they do consider what price is too high for the consumer to bear. Bump it up too high and consumption actually does drop (we saw that in the mid 70s oil crisis). Cunsumers curtail travel plans and such. Which leads hotels, resorts, etc to have lower fill rates, so they lose money. The domino effect rolls on.... |
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You probably think unions go on strike because they care about their members. |
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| It would seem that the entire cycle of life is a consopiracy out to get you. WTF? Are you mental? I research something, I find information. You refuse to read it, and insult me instead of having even a bit of an open mind or even addressing what was presented. |
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Oil corporations, like any other corporation has no legal responsibility to the consumer other than to provide a safe product. The only fiduciary responsibility any corporation hasto anyone is to the shareholders who expect as great a return on their investments as the corporation can supply. In other words; that responsibility is to generate profits. The same applies to food corporations like Beatrice Foods and RJ Reynolds, to appliance corporations like General Electric, etc. Gee wally, did I say anything different? NO. I just said what they did to maximize profits. Didn't say it was good, bad, legal, illegal, or otherwise. Just said this is what they did. But you have to go off the deep end insulting me, talking about conspirsy and making up things to assign to me.... |
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Believe it or not, they do consider what price is too high for the consumer to bear. Bump it up too high and consumption actually does drop (we saw that in the mid 70s oil crisis). Cunsumers curtail travel plans and such. Which leads hotels, resorts, etc to have lower fill rates, so they lose money. The domino effect rolls on.... That's nice. This century they raise the price up, get people used to it, drop it a little, then rinse and repeat. You probably think unions go on strike because they care about their members. Why not just say that I believe GW Bush is reptilian space alien since you're all about making up bullshit to assign to me? |
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Dammit, what the fuck is wrong with you? |
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