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Default Re: So, I'm out practicing my lane discipline... - 05-12-2007 , 10:34 AM






elaich wrote:
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"dwight" <tfrog93 (AT) gEEmail (DOT) com> wrote in
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I think I should be allowed to drive at whatever speed I feel like, so
long as I'm not causing any safety hazards.

Then you would become a hazard to those who are not as good a driver as you
obviously think you are, and who don't want to drive as fast as you do. A
car traveling much faster than the traffic flow IS a safety hazard.

I think that's part of the point of not being a hazard. Not doing so
where there is traffic to flow.

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Default Re: So, I'm out practicing my lane discipline... - 05-12-2007 , 02:27 PM






On Sat, 12 May 2007 09:24:16 -0400, "dwight" <tfrog93 (AT) gEEmail (DOT) com>
wrote:

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"Spike" <veeger (AT) snowcrest (DOT) net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 11 May 2007 20:11:21 -0400, "dwight" <tfrog93 (AT) gEEmail (DOT) com
wrote:

You know, driving home on the highway at lunchtime, sticking predominantly
to the center lane of three. Use my turn signal to move left to pass, use
it
again to return to the center lane. Good, solid lane discipline.

Then the highway goes from three lanes to two, and I naturally come upon a
clump of about 10 drivers clogging up both lanes ahead. Let's see... 10
cars, all doing exactly 61mph in a 55 zone. A quick swipe at my
cellphone's
built-in calculator, I can see that the 85 percentile in this bunch
demands
that we travel at 61mph.

Well, that's somewhat above the posted speed limit sign (the REAL one, the
one by the side of the road) that says 55, but it's still not good enough
for me.

It occurs to me that I must be in the top 5 percentile or above. When the
highway finally opens up ahead of me, I set a pace between 80 and 85.
That's
my personal comfort zone, it's where I feel safe and confident. I also
wonder why I should have to be governed by 85% of the slow-ass mother
fuckers on the road. That's not why I bought a Mustang, just to go with
the
flow. If I wanted that, I'd drive a Honda.

I've always used the speed limit signs as nothing more than a guide. On an
open highway, I am limited only by visibility, aerodynamics, mood, and the
number of possible hiding places for state troopers. I understand that
some
drivers (probably a small percent) actually adhere to those numbers along
the roadway, but the majority does between 10 and 20mph above that.

Again, that's not good enough for me.

I think I should be allowed to drive at whatever speed I feel like, so
long
as I'm not causing any safety hazards.

The dwight law. Yeah, I like that.

dwight

Did you take into account what your actions would do????? Someone must
be the one who sets the rate of flow..... :0)

Well, now, that's an interesting point. (And I'm glad that YOU got it, since
a couple others missed the humor).

If the 85percenters are all doing, say, 70mph, and I come flying by at 120,
does my speed then increase the 85% statistically, or am I just an anomaly
that is discarded as an aberration? (a la the olympics, where you throw out
the high and the low, then take the average of the remaining scores)

The other thing I've noticed (and this goes back to my Thoughts column) is
that the majority (vast majority) of the really aggressive drivers around
here have a maximum speed limit, somewhere around 80. When someone behind me
is being a real dick (and always in heavy traffic), accelerating to 85 once
the roadway clears up leaves them far behind. 80 seems to be the magic
number.

Therefore, in order to avoid aggressive drivers and maintain safe distance
between myself and them, I should really be driving at 90.

dwight

Now, here in California, the aggressive drivers are easy to spot...
they are the ones with the Glock pointed at your face as you are
diving for the break down lane.

And how they missed the humor of the piece, I don't know... LOL


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Default Re: So, I'm out practicing my lane discipline... - 05-12-2007 , 02:35 PM



"dwight" <tfrog93 (AT) gEEmail (DOT) com> wrote in
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Quote:
Your thinking seems to be one-dimensional.
No, YOUR'S is the one dimensional thinking. Everything you have said is all
"ME" oriented. Let ME get to where I want to go as fast as possible and
without a scratch on my car. You have shown absolutely no empathy or
respect for anyone else who has the same rights to use the road as you do.

Drivers like you are the reason speed limits exist. Obviously, you lack
self control.

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Default Re: So, I'm out practicing my lane discipline... - 05-12-2007 , 04:21 PM



On Fri, 11 May 2007 20:11:21 -0400, "dwight" <tfrog93 (AT) gEEmail (DOT) com>
wrote:

:>You know, driving home on the highway at lunchtime, sticking predominantly
:>to the center lane of three. Use my turn signal to move left to pass, use it
:>again to return to the center lane. Good, solid lane discipline.
:>
:>Then the highway goes from three lanes to two, and I naturally come upon a
:>clump of about 10 drivers clogging up both lanes ahead.

Ah yes, "The Turd Train", made up of .... well "turds" who's sole
objective is to form a slow moving pack so they can impede the smooth
flow of traffic wherever they roam.

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Default Re: So, I'm out practicing my lane discipline... - 05-12-2007 , 05:47 PM



"elaich" <a@b.c> wrote

Quote:
"dwight" <tfrog93 (AT) gEEmail (DOT) com> wrote in
news:cNadnQXM_qhKINjbnZ2dnUVZ_qCmnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com:

Your thinking seems to be one-dimensional.

No, YOUR'S is the one dimensional thinking. Everything you have said is
all
"ME" oriented. Let ME get to where I want to go as fast as possible and
without a scratch on my car. You have shown absolutely no empathy or
respect for anyone else who has the same rights to use the road as you do.
You're funny.

Quote:
Drivers like you are the reason speed limits exist. Obviously, you lack
self control.
500,000 miles without an accident. I must be showing "some" empathy and
respect for the otherguy...

dwight




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Default Re: So, I'm out practicing my lane discipline... - 05-12-2007 , 05:55 PM



"Sarah Czepiel" <ninety7gt (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
On Fri, 11 May 2007 20:11:21 -0400, "dwight" <tfrog93 (AT) gEEmail (DOT) com
wrote:

:>You know, driving home on the highway at lunchtime, sticking
predominantly
:>to the center lane of three. Use my turn signal to move left to pass,
use it
:>again to return to the center lane. Good, solid lane discipline.
:
:>Then the highway goes from three lanes to two, and I naturally come upon
a
:>clump of about 10 drivers clogging up both lanes ahead.

Ah yes, "The Turd Train", made up of .... well "turds" who's sole
objective is to form a slow moving pack so they can impede the smooth
flow of traffic wherever they roam.
I don't see it that way.

Somebody probably wasn't happy doing 59, so he moved left to pass. At 61.
Naturally, when 61 goes to pass 59, traffic will be coming up behind the two
of them pretty quick. Now you have a PACK, the left lane doing 61, the right
59.

Eventually - like turtles having sex - 61 is going to actually pass 59 with
enough room to move back over to the right. When that happens, the pack
breaks up like a backed up toilet when the Master Plumber plunger is
applied.

I developed a good level of patience, when it dawned on me that I'm the
fastest driver on the road and every other driver is slower than me.
Everyone else is a slow-ass mother fucker to me, whether they're the only
other car on the road or a group of cars known as "traffic."

And that's why, unless drivers are judged one at a time, any system of speed
limitation you care to install is going to be counter to my interests. And,
since I already don't agree with any limit on speed, I can just ignore all
of it.

dwight law

dwight




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Default Re: So, I'm out practicing my lane discipline... - 05-12-2007 , 08:54 PM



On Sat, 12 May 2007 18:55:28 -0400, "dwight" <tfrog93 (AT) gEEmail (DOT) com>
wrote:

:>"Sarah Czepiel" <ninety7gt (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote in message
:>newstbc43ldatr16cgkqipfs7ogbpojqj32h5 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
:>> On Fri, 11 May 2007 20:11:21 -0400, "dwight" <tfrog93 (AT) gEEmail (DOT) com>
:>> wrote:
:>>
:>> :>You know, driving home on the highway at lunchtime, sticking
:>> predominantly
:>> :>to the center lane of three. Use my turn signal to move left to pass,
:>> use it
:>> :>again to return to the center lane. Good, solid lane discipline.
:>> :>
:>> :>Then the highway goes from three lanes to two, and I naturally come upon
:>> a
:>> :>clump of about 10 drivers clogging up both lanes ahead.
:>>
:>> Ah yes, "The Turd Train", made up of .... well "turds" who's sole
:>> objective is to form a slow moving pack so they can impede the smooth
:>> flow of traffic wherever they roam.
:>
:>I don't see it that way.
:>
:>Somebody probably wasn't happy doing 59, so he moved left to pass. At 61.
:>Naturally, when 61 goes to pass 59, traffic will be coming up behind the two
:>of them pretty quick. Now you have a PACK, the left lane doing 61, the right
:>59.
:>
:>Eventually - like turtles having sex - 61 is going to actually pass 59 with
:>enough room to move back over to the right. When that happens, the pack
:>breaks up like a backed up toilet when the Master Plumber plunger is
:>applied.
:>
:>I developed a good level of patience, when it dawned on me that I'm the
:>fastest driver on the road and every other driver is slower than me.
:>Everyone else is a slow-ass mother fucker to me, whether they're the only
:>other car on the road or a group of cars known as "traffic."
:>
:>And that's why, unless drivers are judged one at a time, any system of speed
:>limitation you care to install is going to be counter to my interests. And,
:>since I already don't agree with any limit on speed, I can just ignore all
:>of it.
:>
:>dwight law
:>
:>dwight
:>

One flaw in your thinking dwight, you assume drivers are going to
eventually move over to the right or keep right when they're driving
slow(er). While that might be the norm in other states, it is not a
common practice here in Maryland or DC. The Turd Train gets bunched
up in a pack and they won't yield or move over for anyone. Heck, DC
drivers don't even yield for emergency vehicles. In order to get
around the Turd Train you have to serpentine back and forth from lane
to lane until you work your way up to the front and can break away and
get ahead of them. I still maintain my Rhode Island DL but have been
told there is no MD law for " keeping right" or yielding to faster
traffic and consequently I routinely get stuck in traffic coming out
of DC. Trucks are notorious for blocking the left lanes. It can
take me 2 hours to travel a little over 50 miles one way into DC and
back home again and that's with no accidents or the inevitable road
construction. Going to work at 5 am and we're all going 75 to 80 mph
in all lanes. Come 8:30, 9:00 am and the trucks and the turds are
out and everything slows down. Friends who have lived in this area
longer than I tell me this is typical MD and DC driving behavior. The
main road I travel from southern MD (Route 5) to just before the main
gate at Andrews AFB is only a two lane highway and it has to handle a
hellacious amount of commuter traffic. Now add in the Turd factor
and it's a giant clusterfrock 24/7 M-F. Amazingly it's the weekend
traffic which is actually bearable. YMMV in Pa, but from where I
sit, too often in stop and go traffic, it's the pack of cars making up
the turd trains which hold up the rest of us.

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Default Re: So, I'm out practicing my lane discipline... - 05-12-2007 , 09:36 PM



elaich wrote:

Quote:
Drivers like you are the reason speed limits exist. Obviously, you lack
self control.

No, drivers like grand ma, a 17 yo girl putting on make up and
apparently you are why there are speed limits, otherwise *we* would have
an Autobahn as well.

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paralyzing fear that a mutated, poisonous sink overflow
spider may leap from the depths of the overflow and
into my upturned nose."
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Default Re: So, I'm out practicing my lane discipline... - 05-12-2007 , 09:40 PM



"Sarah Czepiel" <ninety7gt (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
On Sat, 12 May 2007 18:55:28 -0400, "dwight" <tfrog93 (AT) gEEmail (DOT) com
wrote:

:>"Sarah Czepiel" <ninety7gt (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote in message
:>newstbc43ldatr16cgkqipfs7ogbpojqj32h5 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
:>> On Fri, 11 May 2007 20:11:21 -0400, "dwight" <tfrog93 (AT) gEEmail (DOT) com
:>> wrote:
:
:>> :>You know, driving home on the highway at lunchtime, sticking
:>> predominantly
:>> :>to the center lane of three. Use my turn signal to move left to
pass,
:>> use it
:>> :>again to return to the center lane. Good, solid lane discipline.
:>> :
:>> :>Then the highway goes from three lanes to two, and I naturally come
upon
:>> a
:>> :>clump of about 10 drivers clogging up both lanes ahead.
:
:>> Ah yes, "The Turd Train", made up of .... well "turds" who's sole
:>> objective is to form a slow moving pack so they can impede the smooth
:>> flow of traffic wherever they roam.
:
:>I don't see it that way.
:
:>Somebody probably wasn't happy doing 59, so he moved left to pass. At
61.
:>Naturally, when 61 goes to pass 59, traffic will be coming up behind the
two
:>of them pretty quick. Now you have a PACK, the left lane doing 61, the
right
:>59.
:
:>Eventually - like turtles having sex - 61 is going to actually pass 59
with
:>enough room to move back over to the right. When that happens, the pack
:>breaks up like a backed up toilet when the Master Plumber plunger is
:>applied.
:
:>I developed a good level of patience, when it dawned on me that I'm the
:>fastest driver on the road and every other driver is slower than me.
:>Everyone else is a slow-ass mother fucker to me, whether they're the
only
:>other car on the road or a group of cars known as "traffic."
:
:>And that's why, unless drivers are judged one at a time, any system of
speed
:>limitation you care to install is going to be counter to my interests.
And,
:>since I already don't agree with any limit on speed, I can just ignore
all
:>of it.
:
:>dwight law
:
:>dwight
:

One flaw in your thinking dwight, you assume drivers are going to
eventually move over to the right or keep right when they're driving
slow(er). While that might be the norm in other states, it is not a
common practice here in Maryland or DC. The Turd Train gets bunched
up in a pack and they won't yield or move over for anyone. Heck, DC
drivers don't even yield for emergency vehicles. In order to get
around the Turd Train you have to serpentine back and forth from lane
to lane until you work your way up to the front and can break away and
get ahead of them. I still maintain my Rhode Island DL but have been
told there is no MD law for " keeping right" or yielding to faster
traffic and consequently I routinely get stuck in traffic coming out
of DC. Trucks are notorious for blocking the left lanes. It can
take me 2 hours to travel a little over 50 miles one way into DC and
back home again and that's with no accidents or the inevitable road
construction. Going to work at 5 am and we're all going 75 to 80 mph
in all lanes. Come 8:30, 9:00 am and the trucks and the turds are
out and everything slows down. Friends who have lived in this area
longer than I tell me this is typical MD and DC driving behavior. The
main road I travel from southern MD (Route 5) to just before the main
gate at Andrews AFB is only a two lane highway and it has to handle a
hellacious amount of commuter traffic. Now add in the Turd factor
and it's a giant clusterfrock 24/7 M-F. Amazingly it's the weekend
traffic which is actually bearable. YMMV in Pa, but from where I
sit, too often in stop and go traffic, it's the pack of cars making up
the turd trains which hold up the rest of us.
It's the same all over, as far as I've seen. The slowest car determines the
speed we all must travel. The more traffic, the slower we all go. That's why
comedians have been making fun of the term "rush hour" as long as I've been
alive. That's a long time.

When things get backed up like that, I tend to just sit back and relax. No
point getting agitated. I'm not big on jumping lanes, either, since it never
seems to make any difference. Usually, when I have jumped lanes, the new
lane suddenly becomes the slow lane and the lane I've just come from speeds
up. Never fails. So I just stay put until things work themselves out.

It takes me 45 to 50 minutes to get home from work, and that's 16 miles. I'm
averaging 21mph. And this is on the back roads, because the highway is one
very long parking lot, and thus useless to me (especially when I'm driving
TFrog with the stick).

dwight




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Default Re: So, I'm out practicing my lane discipline... - 05-13-2007 , 02:29 AM



On Sat, 12 May 2007 22:40:17 -0400, "dwight" <tfrog93 (AT) gEEmail (DOT) com>
wrote:

Quote:
"Sarah Czepiel" <ninety7gt (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:3upc43doclks72jiji97g40vrhs2h8i5rg (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
On Sat, 12 May 2007 18:55:28 -0400, "dwight" <tfrog93 (AT) gEEmail (DOT) com
wrote:

:>"Sarah Czepiel" <ninety7gt (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote in message
:>newstbc43ldatr16cgkqipfs7ogbpojqj32h5 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
:>> On Fri, 11 May 2007 20:11:21 -0400, "dwight" <tfrog93 (AT) gEEmail (DOT) com
:>> wrote:
:
:>> :>You know, driving home on the highway at lunchtime, sticking
:>> predominantly
:>> :>to the center lane of three. Use my turn signal to move left to
pass,
:>> use it
:>> :>again to return to the center lane. Good, solid lane discipline.
:>> :
:>> :>Then the highway goes from three lanes to two, and I naturally come
upon
:>> a
:>> :>clump of about 10 drivers clogging up both lanes ahead.
:
:>> Ah yes, "The Turd Train", made up of .... well "turds" who's sole
:>> objective is to form a slow moving pack so they can impede the smooth
:>> flow of traffic wherever they roam.
:
:>I don't see it that way.
:
:>Somebody probably wasn't happy doing 59, so he moved left to pass. At
61.
:>Naturally, when 61 goes to pass 59, traffic will be coming up behind the
two
:>of them pretty quick. Now you have a PACK, the left lane doing 61, the
right
:>59.
:
:>Eventually - like turtles having sex - 61 is going to actually pass 59
with
:>enough room to move back over to the right. When that happens, the pack
:>breaks up like a backed up toilet when the Master Plumber plunger is
:>applied.
:
:>I developed a good level of patience, when it dawned on me that I'm the
:>fastest driver on the road and every other driver is slower than me.
:>Everyone else is a slow-ass mother fucker to me, whether they're the
only
:>other car on the road or a group of cars known as "traffic."
:
:>And that's why, unless drivers are judged one at a time, any system of
speed
:>limitation you care to install is going to be counter to my interests.
And,
:>since I already don't agree with any limit on speed, I can just ignore
all
:>of it.
:
:>dwight law
:
:>dwight
:

One flaw in your thinking dwight, you assume drivers are going to
eventually move over to the right or keep right when they're driving
slow(er). While that might be the norm in other states, it is not a
common practice here in Maryland or DC. The Turd Train gets bunched
up in a pack and they won't yield or move over for anyone. Heck, DC
drivers don't even yield for emergency vehicles. In order to get
around the Turd Train you have to serpentine back and forth from lane
to lane until you work your way up to the front and can break away and
get ahead of them. I still maintain my Rhode Island DL but have been
told there is no MD law for " keeping right" or yielding to faster
traffic and consequently I routinely get stuck in traffic coming out
of DC. Trucks are notorious for blocking the left lanes. It can
take me 2 hours to travel a little over 50 miles one way into DC and
back home again and that's with no accidents or the inevitable road
construction. Going to work at 5 am and we're all going 75 to 80 mph
in all lanes. Come 8:30, 9:00 am and the trucks and the turds are
out and everything slows down. Friends who have lived in this area
longer than I tell me this is typical MD and DC driving behavior. The
main road I travel from southern MD (Route 5) to just before the main
gate at Andrews AFB is only a two lane highway and it has to handle a
hellacious amount of commuter traffic. Now add in the Turd factor
and it's a giant clusterfrock 24/7 M-F. Amazingly it's the weekend
traffic which is actually bearable. YMMV in Pa, but from where I
sit, too often in stop and go traffic, it's the pack of cars making up
the turd trains which hold up the rest of us.

It's the same all over, as far as I've seen. The slowest car determines the
speed we all must travel. The more traffic, the slower we all go. That's why
comedians have been making fun of the term "rush hour" as long as I've been
alive. That's a long time.

When things get backed up like that, I tend to just sit back and relax. No
point getting agitated. I'm not big on jumping lanes, either, since it never
seems to make any difference. Usually, when I have jumped lanes, the new
lane suddenly becomes the slow lane and the lane I've just come from speeds
up. Never fails. So I just stay put until things work themselves out.

It takes me 45 to 50 minutes to get home from work, and that's 16 miles. I'm
averaging 21mph. And this is on the back roads, because the highway is one
very long parking lot, and thus useless to me (especially when I'm driving
TFrog with the stick).

dwight

Yep... traffic lanes are just like checkout stands at Target or
Wallymart. You spot a short line and somebody invariably is using
welfare coupons.... or they forgot something.... so you spot another
line that's moving and you slide on over, just in time for it to bog
down. You look at the line you were just in and the cashier is
standing there doing nothing, so, you slip out of line and head back
over just as the cashier turns off the light and goes on a break.

Dwight, what is it? Din't anyone else get the humor in this thread?


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