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PTV's. Personal Transport
Vehicles. The car recognizes you as you approach, opens the door for
you, and you slide into your seat as you speak your destination. As
the restraint system envelopes you, the vehicle begins its journey
while you sit back to watch the latest vid.

dwight, I know it's cold up there, but you might want to get out for
a bit and stop watching all those movies in your entertainment
center.

Movies? Me? No, Law and Order reruns 24 hours a day.

Which reminds me to ask you - which variation(s) is/are your favorites?
I'm still partial to the original, although I do miss Jerry.

No question, it's the original. I miss Jerry, too, and McCoy is getting a
bit long in the tooth (what is he, MY age?). Orbach's death has led to a
string of unsuccessful replacements, none of which "stuck." Anyway, close
second is CI. Love that bug man from Men in Black...

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It's warming up today - probably hitting 30 about now. I was out this
morning chipping at the ice, tidying up the walk and driveway. I dug
out TFrog, moved the plowed snow away from the storm drain, and dug
out access to my mailbox, so the mailman doesn't have to get out of
the truck.

Anything that thaws today will refreeze for the next couple of days,
then we're expecting a heat wave (high 30s). When this stuff start to
melt, all that water has to go somewhere.

Oh, and I've been cheating the past several days. Used Jean's Escape,
which is a blast in snow. (She was down in Mexico City, so she doesn't
have to know.)

dwight

You mean she doesn't read this ng??

Hah! What newsgroup? She thinks I just get a lot of email.

dwight

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bad?
Depends upon your gender. The Tundra is aimed, golly gee whiz, smack
dab at the very cavemen that Geico likes to make fun of. Women need
not apply. (Speaking of which, Geico, are there NO cavewomen?)

Some pickups are aimed at the tamer members of the male population -
we don't want to be overly aggressive, such that we actually turn
off those guys that are not as resolved in their manliness. Toyota
doesn't care. They're going for the image to sell their trucks, and
if you're a squeamish customer, they don't care.

When you look at the different brands, you can immediately see which
sex is being targeted. With Ford, you only have to watch the
commercial where the woman pays for a couple of clean shirts for the
guy in the Mustang behind her. That's two Fords, but very different
markets.

We're all so easily led...

dwight
It's human nature. I simply accept it with a smile.

Actually, it's all very intriguing. I watch commercials now mostly
to see the different tactics companies use to get me to buy what
they're selling. It's very interesting watching marketing "evolve".
Since I think the Toyota Tundra commercials are good means I am a
manly man and not a girlie man?

Exactly! BTW, have you seen the Burger King commercials? They're the
epitome of what we're talking about here.

The BK commercials are good for a chuckle. Even my wife thinks they are
funny.

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Now that Dwight mentions it, nearly all of Fords car commercials
appear to be targeting women. That might be another component to
their problem.

I agree. Their marketing is pretty transparent. I think that savvy
women will pick up on that, too.

I do watch the Mercury commercials because the woman they have doing
them is hot.

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I don't see the Toyota car commercials as being very
gender specific. They also have hit a grand slam home run with their
Sion brand. They are mopping up the youth market. I visit a Toyota
dealership quite often and they have some serious speed parts for the
Scions.

There's another thing that American makers don't pay enough attention to
- aftermarket. There are big bucks to be made in the "personalization"
arena.

Ford started targeting the youth market with the Focus but seem to
have all but given up on it. Toyota knows that today's Scion buyers
are tomorrow's Toyota and Lexus buyers. Their commitment to long term
marketing strategy is going to continually erode GM and Ford's market
share.

Michael, you hit the nail on the head. Key phrase = "long term
marketing strategy". It works. American makers by and large have not
learned that yet. Witness the frequency with which American nameplates
change.

I bet the Scion/Toyota/Lexus combination has one of the highest repeat
buyer percentages in the world.

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Maybe GM and Ford should take a hard look at Toyota and copy their
marketing strategies. They obviously aren't capable of developing
their own.

Bingo. But they need to swallow a bit of their pride first...

Sometimes I think they first need to realize they are getting their
asses kicked. They certainly don't act like they know it.

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