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Jeff <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote: dold (AT) 53 (DOT) usenet.us.com> wrote in message away in the form of heat and brake dust, or capturing some of it in a Brake dust is not a form of energy! Unless you use an atomic reactor that uses brake dust as a fuel. |
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The brake dust is another waste product avoided by using regeneration. In other words, there are a lot of energy conversions when the kinetic energy of the truck is converted to chemical energy in the battery and back. During these conversions, some of the energy is lost as heat. And some of it is stored for use later. It's a good option, but the option is not necessarily worth the cost of making the batteries and other parts. That would be the accounting that you haven't seen. Part of the phantom loss is couched in the belief that each hybrid is sold at less than cost by the manufacturer. Toyota declares that is not true, that they make a profit on every one. |
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Jeff <news (AT) googlemail (DOT) com> wrote: I see that you used the intellectually dishonest method of editing the previous posts by deleting importants parts with indicating that fact. The poster, to whom I was replying, said, in part: " Coming down the I am that previous poster. I was rephrasing my thoughts. It is unfortunate if you infer dishonorable intent. |
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It's a good option, but the option is not necessarily worth the cost of making the batteries and other parts. Again, you were intellectually dishonest in the way you edited what was said. You removed the part that showed I was talking about the environmental costs, not the economic costs. It wasn't clear to me that you were referring to environmental costs in that statement. I didn't realize that you were ignoring the economics. |
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If you want to make an intelligent choice about where a hybrid or conventional car is a better choice for the environment, you need to look at all the environmental costs of building the car, including the environmental costs of building and disposing of the hybrid system compared to a conventional car. I see by continuation that you are referring only to environmental costs, and not the dollar costs. I have tended to blend those two. |
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-- --- Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5 |
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