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Default Re: CAFE standards controlled by our Government? Can someone explain why? - 04-29-2007 , 12:55 AM






On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 08:00:09 -0400, "C. E. White"
<cewhite3 (AT) removemindspring (DOT) com> wrote:

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"Bob Brown" <.> wrote in message
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On 25 Apr 2007 15:37:57 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute"
nospam (AT) whitehouse (DOT) gov> wrote:

The Prius is "green" because by paying extra for it, you have less
money
with which to buy other goods and services, thus reducing
productivity,
employment, and all those other things that liberals hate.

I've noticed Liberals hate/oppose anything that involves freedom or
personal choice.

Then they are not "Liberals." I think a more correct term for people
who hate/oppose anything that involves freedom or personal choice
would be fascist- either right wing or left wing.

Ed

Ed if you've not noticed that all the 'anti-freedom' and anti-choice
people all seem to be Liberals "today". Meaning a modern day Liberal.

If we go by the dictionary every time a label makes us upset then we'd
all be gay. Gay means happy, right?




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Default Re: CAFE standards controlled by our Government? Can someone explain why? - 04-29-2007 , 12:56 AM






On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 19:16:19 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <tegger (AT) tegger (DOT) c0m>
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"C. E. White" <cewhite3 (AT) removemindspring (DOT) com> wrote in news:4631e63e$1
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"Bob Brown" <.> wrote in message
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On 25 Apr 2007 15:37:57 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute"
nospam (AT) whitehouse (DOT) gov> wrote:

The Prius is "green" because by paying extra for it, you have less
money
with which to buy other goods and services, thus reducing
productivity,
employment, and all those other things that liberals hate.

I've noticed Liberals hate/oppose anything that involves freedom or
personal choice.

Then they are not "Liberals." I think a more correct term for people
who hate/oppose anything that involves freedom or personal choice
would be fascist- either right wing or left wing.




The correct term is "statist".

All the above mentioned people always wish to use the state's power to
enforce their desires.
That definition defines a "modern day Liberal". They wish for the
gov't to do everything for them and force other people to do certain
things. Anti-freedom and anti-choice is a modern day liberal.


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Default Re: CAFE standards controlled by our Government? Can someone explain why? - 04-29-2007 , 12:58 AM



On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:25:20 GMT, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts>
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 15:14:28 -0500, Ray O wrote:


"Bob Brown" <.> wrote in message
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100,000 miles used to be considered the average life of a passenger
vehicle,
but 200,000 is very common now.

So those 10 year/100K miles warranty are now basically 3-5 year
warranties.

Nice.


It is if one drives 20,000 to 30,000 miles a year.


Yo!

Thing is, I split it between three cars.

Buying a $20K car, making payments, with interest and depreciation the
car was bought for around $25K and five years later is maybe worth
$10K, plus all that repair work and getting busy, in the hybrid's
case, finding a new battery. Batteries lifetime stamp doesn't say
"4ever and ever"

I wonder what those batteries do to the environment when they're
recycled?

Or when they're made?



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Default Re: CAFE standards controlled by our Government? Can someone explain why? - 04-29-2007 , 08:27 AM



Bob Brown <.> wrote in news:7qc833da3enmklm92bgrr5mcoon6lq07ka (AT) bbb (DOT) org:

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On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 19:16:19 +0000 (UTC), Tegger <tegger (AT) tegger (DOT) c0m
wrote:

"C. E. White" <cewhite3 (AT) removemindspring (DOT) com> wrote in news:4631e63e$1
@kcnews01:


"Bob Brown" <.> wrote in message
news:cp12339cm92pd0og0mhccfo120pnhclk0t (AT) bbb (DOT) org...
On 25 Apr 2007 15:37:57 GMT, "Fred Garvin, Male Prostitute"
nospam (AT) whitehouse (DOT) gov> wrote:

The Prius is "green" because by paying extra for it, you have less
money
with which to buy other goods and services, thus reducing
productivity,
employment, and all those other things that liberals hate.

I've noticed Liberals hate/oppose anything that involves freedom or
personal choice.

Then they are not "Liberals." I think a more correct term for people
who hate/oppose anything that involves freedom or personal choice
would be fascist- either right wing or left wing.




The correct term is "statist".

All the above mentioned people always wish to use the state's power to
enforce their desires.

That definition defines a "modern day Liberal". They wish for the
gov't to do everything for them and force other people to do certain
things. Anti-freedom and anti-choice is a modern day liberal.


It also means modern day "conservatives", who wish to tell people what
thery can and cannot do with their bodies, using the might of the state to
enforce this. The "war" on drugs comes from the right and was the primary
eroder of civil liberties until the terror thing came along.

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Tegger



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