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Default Changing tranny oil in 95 Bronco XLT - 04-08-2007 , 01:56 PM






I want to change my Bronco's tranny oil, including the oil in the
torque converter. I'm going to siphon out what oil I can through the
filler tube, then drop the pan and change the filter and gasket.

After bolting the pan back, I plan to drain the torque converter by
disconnecting the oil cooler line, cranking the engine to pump the
remaining fluid into a bucket. This is the step that makes me
nervous. Will running the motor (and tranny) to pump the tranny dry
damage the transmission? I plan on killing the motor as soon as the
oil stops coming out. I've never done this before, and if it's an
iffy procedure, I won' do it.

Anyone with experience doing this?

Thanks,
John


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Default Re: Changing tranny oil in 95 Bronco XLT - 04-08-2007 , 03:12 PM






john wrote:
Quote:
I want to change my Bronco's tranny oil, including the oil in the
torque converter. I'm going to siphon out what oil I can through the
filler tube, then drop the pan and change the filter and gasket.

After bolting the pan back, I plan to drain the torque converter by
disconnecting the oil cooler line, cranking the engine to pump the
remaining fluid into a bucket. This is the step that makes me
nervous. Will running the motor (and tranny) to pump the tranny dry
damage the transmission? I plan on killing the motor as soon as the
oil stops coming out. I've never done this before, and if it's an
iffy procedure, I won' do it.

Anyone with experience doing this?

Thanks,
John

No need for all of that hassle. The converter should have a drain plug. Remove the
tin inspection cover on the front side, bottom of the bell housing. It's right under
the back of the motor. Bar the engine over by hand. You will see the drain plug close
to one of the converter to flywheel nuts. It looks like a 7/16"(?) bolt head, but it
is actually a hex head pipe plug.


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Default Re: Changing tranny oil in 95 Bronco XLT - 04-08-2007 , 03:39 PM



On 8 Apr 2007 11:56:33 -0700, "john" <johnoceanusacr (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>
wrote:

Quote:
I want to change my Bronco's tranny oil, including the oil in the
torque converter. I'm going to siphon out what oil I can through the
filler tube, then drop the pan and change the filter and gasket.

After bolting the pan back, I plan to drain the torque converter by
disconnecting the oil cooler line, cranking the engine to pump the
remaining fluid into a bucket. This is the step that makes me
nervous. Will running the motor (and tranny) to pump the tranny dry
damage the transmission? I plan on killing the motor as soon as the
oil stops coming out. I've never done this before, and if it's an
iffy procedure, I won' do it.

Anyone with experience doing this?

Thanks,
John
Disconnect the oil cooler hose, run the engine and while pouring new
fluid in the rop, watch the fluid coming out. Shut it off when you get
clean fluid. That way the converter is drained and flushed. THEN drop
the pan and change the filter, re-assemble and top up. Yes, you do
"waste some fluid" but you get a total flush and fill.

Or you can do the filter stuff first and save a bit of fluid, with the
possibility of a very small amount of crud staying in the pan (very
slim chance, very small amount). You choose.

It will NOT CAUSE DAMAGE TO THE TRANSMISSION. It will NOT cause the
tranny to fail. I've done it HUNDREDS of times.

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Default Re: Changing tranny oil in 95 Bronco XLT - 04-08-2007 , 03:41 PM



On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 16:12:48 -0400, Tom Adkins <nospam (AT) centurytel (DOT) net>
wrote:

Quote:
john wrote:
I want to change my Bronco's tranny oil, including the oil in the
torque converter. I'm going to siphon out what oil I can through the
filler tube, then drop the pan and change the filter and gasket.

After bolting the pan back, I plan to drain the torque converter by
disconnecting the oil cooler line, cranking the engine to pump the
remaining fluid into a bucket. This is the step that makes me
nervous. Will running the motor (and tranny) to pump the tranny dry
damage the transmission? I plan on killing the motor as soon as the
oil stops coming out. I've never done this before, and if it's an
iffy procedure, I won' do it.

Anyone with experience doing this?

Thanks,
John

No need for all of that hassle. The converter should have a drain plug. Remove the
tin inspection cover on the front side, bottom of the bell housing. It's right under
the back of the motor. Bar the engine over by hand. You will see the drain plug close
to one of the converter to flywheel nuts. It looks like a 7/16"(?) bolt head, but it
is actually a hex head pipe plug.
Trust me, the stock Bronco converter has no drain. Haven't seen a
factory converter on an American vehicle with a drain in close to 20
years. Why? because it's not required in manufacturing and would raise
the cost of every vehicle by about a nickle.

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Default Re: Changing tranny oil in 95 Bronco XLT - 04-08-2007 , 04:22 PM



On Apr 8, 4:41 pm, clare at snyder.on.ca wrote:
Quote:
Trust me, the stock Bronco converter has no drain. Haven't seen a
factory converter on an American vehicle with a drain in close to 20
years.
You're right. I don't think his Bronco will have a torque converter
drain. Probably the last American cars to have a drain on the torque
converter were some rear wheel drive Fords from about the mid-90's,
maybe just a year or two earlier. I think you can still find a torque
converter drain plug on a mid-90's Mustang if memory serves me right.
(and it quite often doesn't)

GM and Chrysler were even more shy about a drain plug on torque
converters, although a lot of <GOOD> tranny shops would drill out a
hole in the torque converter, tap it for threads, hook up a machine to
flush out the torque conveter while the tranny was being rebuilt, and
when all was done, put a plug back in it. Those days are long gone.



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Default Re: Changing tranny oil in 95 Bronco XLT - 04-08-2007 , 05:17 PM



Kruse wrote:
Quote:
On Apr 8, 4:41 pm, clare at snyder.on.ca wrote:
Trust me, the stock Bronco converter has no drain. Haven't seen a
factory converter on an American vehicle with a drain in close to 20
years.

You're right. I don't think his Bronco will have a torque converter
drain. Probably the last American cars to have a drain on the torque
converter were some rear wheel drive Fords from about the mid-90's,
maybe just a year or two earlier. I think you can still find a torque
converter drain plug on a mid-90's Mustang if memory serves me right.
(and it quite often doesn't)

GM and Chrysler were even more shy about a drain plug on torque
converters, although a lot of <GOOD> tranny shops would drill out a
hole in the torque converter, tap it for threads, hook up a machine to
flush out the torque conveter while the tranny was being rebuilt, and
when all was done, put a plug back in it. Those days are long gone.

Uhm, guys,
If it is an AODE/E4OD it most certainly does have a drain plug. I'm pretty sure the
'bigger' trans (4R70W?) also had a drain plug until about 2001. The AODE was behind
the 5.0L, and the 'bigger' trans was behind the 5.8L. (usually).
BTW, some plugs are accessed through an access hole in the bottom of the bell
housing, I forgot to mention that little detail.


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Default Re: Changing tranny oil in 95 Bronco XLT - 04-09-2007 , 12:23 PM



Thanks everyone for the responses. Looking under the truck again, I
see the rubber plug in the bell housing (yeah!). For the record, it's
a 95 5.8l with a E4OD tranny.

Thanks again,
John



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Default Re: Changing tranny oil in 95 Bronco XLT - 04-10-2007 , 03:16 PM



On Apr 8, 4:22 pm, "Kruse" <k... (AT) kansas (DOT) net> wrote:
Quote:
On Apr 8, 4:41 pm, clare at snyder.on.ca wrote:

Trust me, the stock Bronco converter has no drain. Haven't seen a
factory converter on an American vehicle with a drain in close to 20
years.

You're right. I don't think his Bronco will have a torque converter
drain. Probably the last American cars to have a drain on the torque
converter were some rear wheel drive Fords from about the mid-90's,
maybe just a year or two earlier. I think you can still find a torque
converter drain plug on a mid-90's Mustang if memory serves me right.
(and it quite often doesn't)

GM and Chrysler were even more shy about a drain plug on torque
converters, although a lot of <GOOD> tranny shops would drill out a
hole in the torque converter, tap it for threads, hook up a machine to
flush out the torque conveter while the tranny was being rebuilt, and
when all was done, put a plug back in it. Those days are long gone.
My 95 Bronco has a drain plug on the TC.

I wouldn't worry about what little fluid is left after you drain both
the tranny and TC. If you want to clear the cooler you can unhook the
line that connects to the top of the radiator end cap and the tranny
end of the one that connects to the bottom. The stock cooler only
holds a few pints anyway.

Matthew



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Default Re: Changing tranny oil in 95 Bronco XLT - 04-10-2007 , 09:45 PM



Kruse wrote:
Quote:
On Apr 8, 4:41 pm, clare at snyder.on.ca wrote:
Trust me, the stock Bronco converter has no drain. Haven't seen a
factory converter on an American vehicle with a drain in close to 20
years.

You're right. I don't think his Bronco will have a torque converter
drain. Probably the last American cars to have a drain on the torque
converter were some rear wheel drive Fords from about the mid-90's,
maybe just a year or two earlier. I think you can still find a torque
converter drain plug on a mid-90's Mustang if memory serves me right.
(and it quite often doesn't)

GM and Chrysler were even more shy about a drain plug on torque
converters, although a lot of <GOOD> tranny shops would drill out a
hole in the torque converter, tap it for threads, hook up a machine to
flush out the torque conveter while the tranny was being rebuilt, and
when all was done, put a plug back in it. Those days are long gone.

my 95 f150 5.8L e4od had a drain.


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Default Re: Changing tranny oil in 95 Bronco XLT - 04-11-2007 , 07:20 AM



On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 02:45:17 GMT, Picasso <Picasso (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
Kruse wrote:
On Apr 8, 4:41 pm, clare at snyder.on.ca wrote:
Trust me, the stock Bronco converter has no drain. Haven't seen a
factory converter on an American vehicle with a drain in close to 20
years.

You're right. I don't think his Bronco will have a torque converter
drain. Probably the last American cars to have a drain on the torque
converter were some rear wheel drive Fords from about the mid-90's,
maybe just a year or two earlier. I think you can still find a torque
converter drain plug on a mid-90's Mustang if memory serves me right.
(and it quite often doesn't)

GM and Chrysler were even more shy about a drain plug on torque
converters, although a lot of <GOOD> tranny shops would drill out a
hole in the torque converter, tap it for threads, hook up a machine to
flush out the torque conveter while the tranny was being rebuilt, and
when all was done, put a plug back in it. Those days are long gone.


my 95 f150 5.8L e4od had a drain.
I stand corrected. Glad Ford is still spending the extra money to put
the drain in.

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