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Default Re: Ford Fusion targets import champions - 03-09-2007 , 08:40 AM






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It will also stand out greatly in a couple of years when one asks
the traditional Ford owners' question, "You want HOW much to keep it
running?!?!"


If it is anything like the last 25 years worth of Fords my Family has
owned the answer will be - just gas. If it is anything last the last
POS Toyota I owned, you'd need to take out a second mortgage.

Ed.


You wish. You know what so many have said, with a Toyota, you'll buy
a new car when you want one, not when you need one.

And you can spend thousands less for a used Toyota that you can still
trust.

That's my case. I had to get rid of that Ford, it could not be
trusted to complete a vacation. I didn't buy a new car beause I
wanted one, I bought one because the Ford told me I needed one.

In spite of the warranty coverage, it was still the most expensive car
I've ever owned, on a per-mile or per-month basis. The depreciation
and incidental expenses were killers.


Hey guys, you have a small sample size. Most Fords are good cars. Most
Toyotas are good cars. You're going to get a bad one every now and then.

Jeff
So true.

Depreciation is a killer w/ Ford.
Service & parts cost is a killer w/ Toyota & Honda(even simple parts
like brake pads/discs, wiper motor, etc., & especially collision parts).

If you're going to keep a car a long time, or are buying used,
Ford/Chevy is the way to go(just don't forget to get rid of the DexCool
in the Chevy).

If you keep a new car only 3-4 years, buy a Toyota & trade it in.

Rob


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Default Re: Ford Fusion targets import champions - 03-11-2007 , 03:46 PM






You must be thinking of the high cost of Toyota parts

mike


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That persons opinion aside, the Fusion will standout greatly, however,
when one asks the preverbal question, "How much is my monthly payment?"
Particularly when the buyer chooses the V6 with the six speed tranny.

It will also stand out greatly in a couple of years when one asks the
traditional Ford owners' question, "You want HOW much to keep it
running?!?!"

Camry and Accord may sell more fours and standard shift cars, but Fusion
buyers are choosing the V6 six speed in higher percentages, over their
far more expensive V6s Eight out of ten Camrys sold in the US are only
fours, the reverse is more likely true of the Fusion. The fact remains
one can drive home a V6 Fusion for less than a four cylinder Camry, as CR
pointed out

mike



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Default Re: Ford Fusion targets import champions - 03-11-2007 , 03:55 PM



You are corrects one has a hard to time finding a car that is ten or more
years old that one can 'count on.' That's what happens when you buy used
cars. You can never know for sure how it was used or abused, or if it was
properly maintained by the guy that no longer wants to keep it. If you
bought one of the Toyotas that have their brake, steering, gasket or sludge
problems, you would be a Toyota hater today. LOL

mike

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It will also stand out greatly in a couple of years when one asks the
traditional Ford owners' question, "You want HOW much to keep it
running?!?!"

If it is anything like the last 25 years worth of Fords my Family has
owned the answer will be - just gas. If it is anything last the last POS
Toyota I owned, you'd need to take out a second mortgage.

Ed.

You wish. You know what so many have said, with a Toyota, you'll buy a
new car when you want one, not when you need one.

And you can spend thousands less for a used Toyota that you can still
trust.

That's my case. I had to get rid of that Ford, it could not be trusted to
complete a vacation. I didn't buy a new car beause I wanted one, I bought
one because the Ford told me I needed one.



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Default Re: Ford Fusion targets import champions - 03-11-2007 , 06:52 PM



"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote

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You must be thinking of the high cost of Toyota parts

mike
That's not likely. I haven't bought any Toyota parts.

Well, oil filters and an air filter (the latter was $22 at the dealer).

Of course, since getting rid of the Ford, I'm no longer routinely pricing
entire Ford transmissions.

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That persons opinion aside, the Fusion will standout greatly, however,
when one asks the preverbal question, "How much is my monthly payment?"
Particularly when the buyer chooses the V6 with the six speed tranny.

It will also stand out greatly in a couple of years when one asks the
traditional Ford owners' question, "You want HOW much to keep it
running?!?!"

Camry and Accord may sell more fours and standard shift cars, but Fusion
buyers are choosing the V6 six speed in higher percentages, over their
far more expensive V6s Eight out of ten Camrys sold in the US are only
fours, the reverse is more likely true of the Fusion. The fact remains
one can drive home a V6 Fusion for less than a four cylinder Camry, as
CR pointed out

mike




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Default Re: Ford Fusion targets import champions - 05-22-2007 , 09:57 AM



"trainfan1" <lmsearing (AT) usdatanet (DOT) net> wrote

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Jeff wrote:
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"dh" <dh (AT) stargate (DOT) com> wrote in message
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It will also stand out greatly in a couple of years when one asks the
traditional Ford owners' question, "You want HOW much to keep it
running?!?!"

If it is anything like the last 25 years worth of Fords my Family has
owned the answer will be - just gas. If it is anything last the last
POS Toyota I owned, you'd need to take out a second mortgage.

Ed.

You wish. You know what so many have said, with a Toyota, you'll buy a
new car when you want one, not when you need one.

And you can spend thousands less for a used Toyota that you can still
trust.

That's my case. I had to get rid of that Ford, it could not be trusted
to complete a vacation. I didn't buy a new car beause I wanted one, I
bought one because the Ford told me I needed one.

In spite of the warranty coverage, it was still the most expensive car
I've ever owned, on a per-mile or per-month basis. The depreciation and
incidental expenses were killers.

Hey guys, you have a small sample size. Most Fords are good cars. Most
Toyotas are good cars. You're going to get a bad one every now and then.

Jeff

So true.

Depreciation is a killer w/ Ford.
Service & parts cost is a killer w/ Toyota & Honda(even simple parts like
brake pads/discs, wiper motor, etc., & especially collision parts).
I don't know about other parts (haven't needed any) but brake expense on our
Toyotas is low. At 65K miles in our Sienna, we're still on the first set of
pads, with 50% left. At 110K, our oldest Rav needed pads, finally, and
rotors. That was $260 and I am quite sure I've spent that much and more on
similar maintenance for other cars. Even if it was a little more expensive,
having the brakes last two to three times longer drives down the cost. I've
never had pads or rotors go over 50K miles without replacement or, at the
very least, turning, before.

The one thing that does drive up the cost a little on many Toyotas is timing
belt replacement. The local dealer does that for $200 for a 4 or $250 for a
6 and it's not needed until 90K miles. Most newer Toyota engines have
chains, anyway. I can pay for timing belt replacement with what I've saved
on brakes. And maybe have a little left over.

Quote:
If you're going to keep a car a long time, or are buying used, Ford/Chevy
is the way to go(just don't forget to get rid of the DexCool in the
Chevy).

If you keep a new car only 3-4 years, buy a Toyota & trade it in.

Rob


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Default Re: Ford Fusion targets import champions - 05-22-2007 , 10:08 AM



Thanks for the advice. I guess I'll get rid of my 1971 Pinto with 300K on
the clock.

mike


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If you're going to keep a car a long time, or are buying used, Ford/Chevy
is the way to go

If you keep a new car only 3-4 years, buy a Toyota & trade it in.

Rob



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