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Default Re: "GREEN" Cars? - 04-07-2007 , 08:40 AM







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Pardon me but these so-called GREEN cars aren't very green.

If they plug in to charge then it takes power production, which isn't
done by windmills, to charge the car.

If it uses those hybrid, batteries run when needed then gas motor..you
know what happens to those batteries when they're used up?

And what kind of environmental damage is done to MAKE those batteries
for those "green" cars.

Why do environmentalists tell lies and people believe it so much?

I think environmentalists are telling lies. Are they saying, "The
batteries are green because they don't require any resources to make,
last forever, and have no environmental consequences when they are
disposed of?" I don't think so.

However, environmentalists are not looking at all the environmental
costs of electric and hybrid cars. But that is not the same as lying.

Jeff

Some stats that i recently read over here in the UK

Car and Vehicle polution contributes a massive 1% of the UK's total CO2
output.

If the UK stopped all CO2 output tomorrow, China would have made up the
difference inside of 18 months.

In the US, transportation is reponsible for a little over 1/4 of the
greenhouse gases.

http://yosemite.epa.gov/oar/globalwarming.nsf/UniqueKeyLookup/RAMR5WNMK2/$File/04executivesummary.pdf

I am wondering why England is different.

So it's ok to pollute because others are going it.
No its not OK to pollute because other are going to. However just because
one countries tackles it's own pollution issues, doesn't mean that problem
will be solved because other countries will still pollute.

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The only way to slow pollution would be to ban third world and developing
countries from us9ng dirty technology, and that would be next to
impossible. Green cars are not a solution to the problem. But drivers
are an easy target.
Polution is a world wide problem. The developed coutries are the most
energy hungry and create the most pollution in generating that energy.
Undeveloped countries produce a fraction of the global pollution.

Just because the UK or US tackles pollution, maybe we will create pollution
free transportation. Developing countries will replace the pollution. The
world wide problem will never be solved whilst this is the case.

We need to REDUCE pollution, not move it to China.

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So it's ok for developed countries to make more pollution than developing
countries?

Transportation is responsible for about 1/4 of the greenhouse gases in the
US. Reducing the amount of CO2 made by cars is one solution to the
problem. There are many other solutions needed, like reducing the CO2 made
by power plants and heating buildings.
There are many other solutions needed, transportation is a good place to
start. Progress can be made by developing new, cleaner technologies. Real
clean technologies though, not moving the pollution from the exhaust pipe
the power plant.

Just taxing drivers and car owners to oblivion in the hope that they will be
persuaded not to use their vehicles is NOT the way to solve this issue.
This is what is happening in the UK, it will not work over the long term.

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Default Re: "GREEN" Cars? - 04-07-2007 , 12:02 PM






My truck is very green.... not my first choice of colours but it was a lease
return at a price I couldn't turn down....

Yep, the old SuperCrew 4X4 is about as green as you can get....



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Default Re: "GREEN" Cars? - 04-07-2007 , 01:25 PM




"Jim Warman" <mechanic (AT) telusplanet (DOT) net> wrote

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My truck is very green.... not my first choice of colours but it was a
lease return at a price I couldn't turn down....

Yep, the old SuperCrew 4X4 is about as green as you can get....
It's green only on the surface.

Jeff



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