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Default Re: Info about a Ford vehicle - 03-05-2009 , 07:30 AM






In Texas, the registered owner may retain their license plates at sale as a
seller option. Otherwise, the plates do go with the vehicle.

You said below, in a prior reply, that "dealer do not title cars until they
are sold". Heaviily implying that they do title cars after they are sold.
The seller does not ever title a vehicle as part of condition after the
sale. The seller does not title the vehicle at all. As you astutely
replied this last time.

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"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@lycos/com> wrote

Quote:
That is generally the case, as far as I know dealers do not "title"
vehicles in any state. The title is issued by the government. There
are some states where the license plate follows the car, however.

A COV, Certificate of Origin, Vehicle, is sent to the dealership from the
manufacture, or vehicle modifier with the invoice, that is surrendered to
the state government entity that issues the original title. A vehicle
can not be sold untill the dealership possess the COV




"Dioclese" <NONE> wrote in message
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Prior to my purchase, my prior, privately and individual owned 08 Focus
with 925 miles on it had dealer plates on it. The county tax office
showed the prior private owner with title in lien as part of its history.
Texas does not issue physical titles with lien any longer. CARFAX
corroborated with that history with no discrepancies.

License plates, at least in Texas, are part of the registration process.
In Texas, license plates have nothing directly to do with the title of
the vehicle. The registration process does have bearing on the title of
the vehcle. In Texas, a new car dealer sends in the paperwork to DPS for
title reassignment and to the county tax assessor for registration of the
vehicle in behalf of the new owner. The new car dealer does not title a
vehicle, ever.

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CDOs are how we got here.
A modified version, new taxes in the future, is how Congress will get us
out?
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@lycos/com> wrote in message
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You are correct for a change! That was because the dealer do not title
cars until they are sold. He uses dealer plates.

Just think, if you lived in Pennsylvania you could get "Classic" plates
for your ten year old car, that is no longer production.


"Jeff" <jeff.utz (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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On Mar 3, 4:57 pm, "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@lycos/com> wrote:
If it was truly a Ford Motor Company vehicle, one that was never
titled, no.

If not, I would send in the card, if you want to be the owner of
record, if
it was not a Ford Motor Company vehicle

Some dealers have a tendency to sell vehicles, like leases owned by
Ford
Credit Company, as "Ford" owned vehicles but they are not a Ford Motor
Company vehicle and have been titled, so you are thus the second owner
of
record if there is a recall etc..

When I bought my 1997 Contour, it had about 4000 mi on it. The
salesman said it was a demo that was driven by the dealership owner's
wife. Acording to the salesman, because it was used by the dealer, I
got the original title. I have no idea if that was true, however. And
the laws may be different in different states (this was in Michigan).

Jeff










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Mike Hunter
 
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Default Re: Info about a Ford vehicle - 03-05-2009 , 02:11 PM






Of course you are correct. I can see why you thought that from my wording,
but what I meant to convey was the fact the dealers not need to title new
cars because the COV serves as the ownership document untill the vehicle is
sold. He then submits the COV to the state, that then issues a title to the
owner. NO new vehicle can be titled without the properly notarized COV
and the COV can only be transfer to the state or another franchised
dealership or converter, if it is properly notarized.


"Dioclese" <NONE> wrote

Quote:
In Texas, the registered owner may retain their license plates at sale as
a seller option. Otherwise, the plates do go with the vehicle.

You said below, in a prior reply, that "dealer do not title cars until
they are sold". Heaviily implying that they do title cars after they are
sold. The seller does not ever title a vehicle as part of condition after
the sale. The seller does not title the vehicle at all. As you astutely
replied this last time.

--
Dave

CDOs are how we got here.
A modified version, new taxes in the future, is how Congress will get us
out?
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@lycos/com> wrote in message
news:49aeb08f$0$30627$ce5e7886 (AT) news-radius (DOT) ptd.net...
That is generally the case, as far as I know dealers do not "title"
vehicles in any state. The title is issued by the government. There
are some states where the license plate follows the car, however.

A COV, Certificate of Origin, Vehicle, is sent to the dealership from the
manufacture, or vehicle modifier with the invoice, that is surrendered to
the state government entity that issues the original title. A vehicle
can not be sold untill the dealership possess the COV




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Ashton Crusher
 
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Default Re: Info about a Ford vehicle - 03-07-2009 , 08:33 PM



On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 18:13:59 -0800 (PST), Jeff <jeff.utz (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
wrote:

Quote:
On Mar 3, 8:00*pm, Ashton Crusher <d... (AT) moore (DOT) net> wrote:
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:12:18 -0800 (PST), Jeff <jeff.... (AT) gmail (DOT) com
wrote:

On Mar 3, 4:57*pm, "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@lycos/com> wrote:
If it was truly a Ford Motor Company vehicle, one that was never titled, no.

If not, I would send in the card, if you want to be the owner of record, if
it was not a Ford Motor Company vehicle

Some dealers have a tendency to sell vehicles, like leases owned by Ford
Credit Company, as "Ford" owned vehicles but they are not a Ford Motor
Company vehicle and have been titled, so you are thus the second owner of
record if there is a recall etc..

When I bought my 1997 Contour, it had about 4000 mi on it. The
salesman said it was a demo that was driven by the dealership owner's
wife.

I bet half the "demo" cars on their lot have that story told about
them.

*Acording to the salesman, because it was used by the dealer, I

I don't really know. The car ran great for about 155,000 mi. I was
delighted with the car.

Jeff
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the cars, it's just one of
the many lies the salesman use as part of their sales tool kit. For
some reason they think that if they tell people it was the "owners
wife" that was driving the car they will feel more kindly toward the
car then if they tell them it was the parts runner vehicle for the
last three months. I went looking for an Impala (plan Jane) quite a
few years ago and the first story the salesman told me was that he
doubted they had any, they never have Impala's, only the higher end
models usually and then showed me one that "had been driven by the
owner's wife". Then when I insisted I really was only looking for low
cost Impalas he discovered they did, in fact, have a couple of them
"in back". One thing you can take to the back, if a car salesman's
lips are moving chances are he's lying to you about something.


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got the original title. I have no idea if that was true, however. And
the laws may be different in different states (this was in Michigan).

Jeff

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I just bought a 09 Ford Taurus X. It was a demo car driven by a Ford
guy so technically its a used vehicle. * Does anyone know if I have to
fill out the change of ownership card that comes in the manual and
send that to Ford?

As well, does anyone what the weight capacity of the LATCH child
anchors are in Ford vehicles ?
Thanks.

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