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Toyota is no different than any other multi-national operating in the USA, they are no different than the Big Three. Indeed, the American operations of Toyota do pay taxes on > American operations and they pay wages to US workers. "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote in message news:BOOdnUEdl45TKN3bnZ2dnUVZ_oOknZ2d (AT) ptd (DOT) net... The sticker does not mean the US, it means north America. Many of the parts that come from Canada are merely assembled there of imported components, to qualify as NA parts. The parts in Toyotas assembly only plants are stamped of steel that came from Japan to qualify as NA parts. Final assembly of imported parts qualifies them a NA parts as well. They are only smoke and mirrors American parts. ![]() mike |
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That may be your opinion but Toyota and all other Japanese corporations operating in the US are indeed different, because of the tax rates and laws in Japan. GM, Ford etal pay state and local taxes as well, just like Toyota but they also pay federal corporate taxes on the profits made in the US and Toyota does not. European and American corporations pay taxes on the profits earned in the US. Japanese corporations do not because of the tax credits they get for taxes paid in Japan. They do not call it 'Japan Inc.' for nothing, because Japanese corporations receive payments from the government as capital returned, for profits from exports and profits earned in other countries. In Europe foreign corporations like GM, Ford and Toyota etc pay corporate taxes on the profits earned in Europe, period. That is one reason Japanese cars are not as competitive in Europe, they do not have the tax advantages that they have in the US. European taxes are high to cover their socialist governments costs You might also do a search how much the individual states are contributing to the costs of the new plants and infrastructure being built for Toyota with state government backed low interest rate bold issues, in those states, and who is paying the training costs for their under paid employees. Pennsylvania did the same thing for VW, where I got a job as a field engineer, back in the seventies because the plant would create thousands of new jobs. A few years later when small car stopped selling, VW decided to pull out and stuck the state with millions of dollars of forty year bonds. that were to have be paid off by VW. Pennsylvania was lucky, they were able to sell the plant to Chrysler and pay off most of the balance due on the bonds, plus the penalties for retiring them early. Who will buy Toyotas plants if indeed the domestics do go out of business or move offshore and Toyota decides to build the cars in their new China plants where they too can build them much cheaper? ![]() mike . "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote in message news:Az30i.2471$vX4.1471 (AT) trnddc05 (DOT) .. Toyota is no different than any other multi-national operating in the USA, they are no different than the Big Three. Indeed, the American operations of Toyota do pay taxes on > American operations and they pay wages to US workers. "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote in message news:BOOdnUEdl45TKN3bnZ2dnUVZ_oOknZ2d (AT) ptd (DOT) net... The sticker does not mean the US, it means north America. Many of the parts that come from Canada are merely assembled there of imported components, to qualify as NA parts. The parts in Toyotas assembly only plants are stamped of steel that came from Japan to qualify as NA parts. Final assembly of imported parts qualifies them a NA parts as well. They are only smoke and mirrors American parts. ![]() mike |
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The Japanese company I worked for for 10 years was required to set up an American operating company specifically so the USA could collect taxes on the operations here. |
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Why would local government give any incentives to companies to build plants and hire staff if there was no chance of collecting taxes down the road? |
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My community has entered into these kinds of agreements with large companies because government sees the logical benefit of having the jobs in the community. Eventually, when the agreements expire, they collect property taxes from the company. In any case, you are pointing your crooked little finger specifically at Toyota, and that is wrong. Toyota is not doing anything that they are not allowed to do. You may not like what they are doing, but tough shit. |
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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote in message news:Az30i.2471$vX4.1471 (AT) trnddc05 (DOT) .. Yes, so what? The problem isn't what Toyota says, the problem is what the US government allows them to say. Your tone is that Toyota is engaged in smoke and mirrors, my argument is that the smoke and mirror defines the playing field and Toyota is merely playing the game. The issue, therefore, is whom is creating the smoke and mirrors. Toyota is no different than any other multi-national operating in the USA, they are no different than the Big Three. Indeed, the American operations of Toyota do pay taxes on American operations and they pay wages to US workers. That's true. The American operations of Toyota are American companies, fully owned by Toyota. They pay state and federal income taxes just like the Michigan 3 do. Toyota and any other company can say that their cars are made in the US if 75% of the components are made in the US and the cars are assembled in the US. (Honda ran into problems with this with their lawn mowers.) Jeff "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote in message news:BOOdnUEdl45TKN3bnZ2dnUVZ_oOknZ2d (AT) ptd (DOT) net... The sticker does not mean the US, it means north America. Many of the parts that come from Canada are merely assembled there of imported components, to qualify as NA parts. The parts in Toyotas assembly only plants are stamped of steel that came from Japan to qualify as NA parts. Final assembly of imported parts qualifies them a NA parts as well. They are only smoke and mirrors American parts. ![]() mike |
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The Japanese company I worked for for 10 years was required to set up an American operating company specifically so the USA could collect taxes on the operations here. Why would local government give any incentives to companies to build plants and hire staff if there was no chance of collecting taxes down the road? My community has entered into these kinds of agreements with large companies because government sees the logical benefit of having the jobs in the community. Eventually, when the agreements expire, they collect property taxes from the company. Toyota is not doing anything that they are not allowed to do. You may not like what they are doing, but tough shit. "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote in message news:3tadndowUfiIitzbnZ2dnUVZ_h-vnZ2d (AT) ptd (DOT) net... That may be your opinion but Toyota and all other Japanese corporations operating in the US are indeed different, because of the tax rates and laws in Japan. GM, Ford etal pay state and local taxes as well, just like Toyota but they also pay federal corporate taxes on the profits made in the US and Toyota does not. European and American corporations pay taxes on the profits earned in the US. Japanese corporations do not because of the tax credits they get for taxes paid in Japan. They do not call it 'Japan Inc.' for nothing, because Japanese corporations receive payments from the government as capital returned, for profits from exports and profits earned in other countries. In Europe foreign corporations like GM, Ford and Toyota etc pay corporate taxes on the profits earned in Europe, period. That is one reason Japanese cars are not as competitive in Europe, they do not have the tax advantages that they have in the US. European taxes are high to cover their socialist governments costs You might also do a search how much the individual states are contributing to the costs of the new plants and infrastructure being built for Toyota with state government backed low interest rate bold issues, in those states, and who is paying the training costs for their under paid employees. Pennsylvania did the same thing for VW, where I got a job as a field engineer, back in the seventies because the plant would create thousands of new jobs. A few years later when small car stopped selling, VW decided to pull out and stuck the state with millions of dollars of forty year bonds. that were to have be paid off by VW. Pennsylvania was lucky, they were able to sell the plant to Chrysler and pay off most of the balance due on the bonds, plus the penalties for retiring them early. Who will buy Toyotas plants if indeed the domestics do go out of business or move offshore and Toyota decides to build the cars in their new China plants where they too can build them much cheaper? ![]() mike |
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