Good idea???

"George Orwell" <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in
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In additon to all that damage to working Americns, the corperate profits all
go back to Japan, tax free, to be made up by the working wives of the
laidoff domestic plant workers and the Americas who paid way too much for
their cheaper to build Jap car, go figure

mike

Mike Hunter wrote:
Which is very similar to American Corps taxes by way of phony offshore
offices.

Poor pay, no benefits; but at least these foreign automakers are keeping
some jobs in the US. Contrast that with the massive exportation of jobs, at
which our own corporations excel. From customer service to manufacturing,
from clerical tasks to the most sophisticated R&D, it's all going to places
where people are paid 1/10th the US wages and work 80 hours a week. When was
the last time you bought an electronic product manufactured or even designed
in the US? Look close and check where most of the components for your Ford,
Chrysler or Chevy came from -- or even for Boeing's airplanes for that
matter. But can you really blame the corporations? Isn't all this driven by
the consumers' voracious appetite for a newer and better $200 flat screen TV
or a free cell phone upgrade every year, while at the same time demanding
higher dividends on the corporate stock that they (=we) own?

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote

On Mon, 7 May 2007 12:05:06 -0700, "Happy Traveler"
<happy_traveler (AT) abc (DOT) net> wrote:

All can be solved by two actions.

Kick liberals out of education (or make education competitive).

Implement the 'Fair Tax'
http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServ...ame=about_main

Those two actions would solve all the 'problems'.

Corporations would beat a door to our country.

Our children would be educated and ready for all the jobs that would
stream back to America.




Scott in Florida

"Happy Traveler" <happy_traveler (AT) abc (DOT) net> wrote

There are lots of electronics that are designed in the US. Where does Intel
make chips?

A lot of Intel chips are made right here in the US.

For our personal computers, most components are made overseas. My old Dell
was made in Asia. But Dell and other computer companies assemble many of the
computers in the US.

And a lot of electronics for cars are made in the US as well as imported.

Jeff

It is ALL about American consumer greed. Why do some feel it is OK, and not
greedy, for the American consumer to send their own, their children's, and
grand children's jobs overseas by buying import brands, and NOT OK for
manufactures to take advantage of the same lower costs of offshore
operations, to compete with imports to stay in business, and save some of
their American jobs?

What imports will one buy when their employer moves overseas? The only
thing their
children we need to know is how to say, 'Welcome to WalMart or 'Do you want
fries with that?' if we soon do not wise up.

I stopped buy imported cars in 1999 and try to buy products made in the US,
by tax paying America corporations, or better yet made in states where I pay
taxes, whenever I can. We Americans should be as smart as the Jap
consumers, they buy from their own manufactures first to protect their own
economy, even if imported products are cheaper

mike


"Happy Traveler" <happy_traveler (AT) abc (DOT) net> wrote

One of the greatest problems facing this county today is not lack of jobs,
but lack of workers capable of even being trained to do the jobs that are
available. Harder yet to get them come to work as scheduled and stay till
the end of the shift.

The fact is even with the unemployment rate at an historic low, there a
literally millions of job going unfilled in the US. My one son works for
the Department of Labor in a state on the east coast where there are five
jobs available for every three qualified workers available. Corporations
are not willing to come into the state and those in the state are unable to
expand, that's sad.

Another problem is somebody is sending a check to those that will not work,
that is unconscionable

mike


"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant (AT) mindspring (DOT) net> wrote

Mike Hunter wrote:
Middle class can't win can they? If they vote democrat they are
anti-market and if they choose the best product for the money they are
greedy. Interesting logic.


Ever see film of whales herding anchovies? It the right wing corporate
"New World Order" materializing before your eyes. What are middle class
or retired citizens to do if not shop at WalMart? Wise up? LOL, there's
been been a downward pressure on wages and increased hidden taxes for
the last 30 years. Taken a look at CEO salaries lately?

Good for you. Do you check closely to see which corporations have
offshore business's?

Corporations have no patriotism and they are going where labor is
cheaper. America is in decline.

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote

those folks living on Honshu, Kyushu and Hokkaido? Jap is a pejorative
term, and hasn't been used by educated people in fifty years or more.
As for not buying imported cars since 1995, I might agree. I've got a car
for you, made of largely American components (the radio-cd player is made by
Delco, in Indiana or Ohio I think), they are made from suppliers' parts 77
of whom are US suppliers. The bodies are stamped out and assembled and
painted and finished right here in a State of the United States.
Ok? Sound good?

It's a Toyota Camry, or Toyota Avalon, or Toyota Solara, and they're made in
Georgetown, KY.

But I suppose you'd rather get a Canadian Ford or a Mexican Buick, right?

Jeff wrote:

All of Intel's newest CPUs, the Core2 series, are made either locally
here in AZ or in Ireland. BTW, the country of manufacture printed on
the chip is where the chip was tested and packaged, not where its
wafer was actually made.