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Re: I remember... -
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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 08:41:57 -0400, forty <cforteNO (AT) SPAMgmail (DOT) com wrote: ...a certain group of posters who were furiously critical of Massa last season when he won in Istanbul because Michael came in 3rd. Evidently, Massa should have done something to remedy that, somehow. The criticism was quite harsh at this inferior pilot who ruined Ferrari's weekend. Hmmmm.... It would have been nice if he'd supported his team and teammates championship opportunities, but he was a rookie. ...What's "Kimi's" excuse? Yes, of course. Winning from pole was such a let down. He really should |
I'm not sure what excuse Kimi needs seeing as he's done more for the
team than his teammate thus far.
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forty
“To embrace an extreme, one must first let go of reason.”
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CatharticF1 wrote: forty <cforteNO (AT) SPAMgmail (DOT) com> wrote in news:58l05kF2gp18qU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net: TonyMitch (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote: On Apr 17, 8:41 am, forty <cfort... (AT) SPAMgmail (DOT) com> wrote: ...a certain group of posters who were furiously critical of Massa last season when he won in Istanbul because Michael came in 3rd. Evidently, Massa should have done something to remedy that, somehow. The criticism was quite harsh at this inferior pilot who ruined Ferrari's weekend. Hmmmm.... -- forty "To embrace an extreme, one must first let go of reason." ??????????????? Long story, but I'll try to keep it tidy. I was elated at Massa's 1st win last year, but some of the local Tifauxi were upset with him because Michael only came in 3rd. They asserted Massa let the team and Michael down because the team needed a 1-2 finish, not a 1-3. Since they hold Michael as being the 4th member of the Trinity and more infallible than the Pope, this must have all been Massa's fault. At this last race, Massa won from pole and his teammate came in 3rd. Yet, despite the similarity in circumstances, I couldn't help but note differences in their blame-game rhetoric. The mistake was the team's. They should not have serviced Massa first at the pitstop under the SC. ...so Michael should have passed Massa during the SC period, or in the pit lane, or the team should have forced Massa to commit pit strategy suicide by staying out? |
No - I meant that they should have serviced Michael first even if they
had to push Massa out of the way to do it.
Actually, what are your options in that situation - if you want to swap
drivers around when they both come in line astern?
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In article <4624da67_2 (AT) x-privat (DOT) org>, blag (AT) ovist (DOT) com says... Did your post have a point? Blago Do any of yours? |
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David Melville wrote: In article <4624da67_2 (AT) x-privat (DOT) org>, blag (AT) ovist (DOT) com says... Did your post have a point? Blago Do any of yours? Unless you count the point on top of his head...I would say no. pay attention to your own sig. |
Dave
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forty <cforteNO (AT) SPAMgmail (DOT) com> wrote in news:58l8hpF2gp18qU2 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net: CatharticF1 wrote: forty <cforteNO (AT) SPAMgmail (DOT) com> wrote in news:58l05kF2gp18qU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net: TonyMitch (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote: On Apr 17, 8:41 am, forty <cfort... (AT) SPAMgmail (DOT) com> wrote: ...a certain group of posters who were furiously critical of Massa last season when he won in Istanbul because Michael came in 3rd. Evidently, Massa should have done something to remedy that, somehow. The criticism was quite harsh at this inferior pilot who ruined Ferrari's weekend. Hmmmm.... -- forty "To embrace an extreme, one must first let go of reason." ??????????????? Long story, but I'll try to keep it tidy. I was elated at Massa's 1st win last year, but some of the local Tifauxi were upset with him because Michael only came in 3rd. They asserted Massa let the team and Michael down because the team needed a 1-2 finish, not a 1-3. Since they hold Michael as being the 4th member of the Trinity and more infallible than the Pope, this must have all been Massa's fault. At this last race, Massa won from pole and his teammate came in 3rd. Yet, despite the similarity in circumstances, I couldn't help but note differences in their blame-game rhetoric. The mistake was the team's. They should not have serviced Massa first at the pitstop under the SC. ...so Michael should have passed Massa during the SC period, or in the pit lane, or the team should have forced Massa to commit pit strategy suicide by staying out? No whoosh No - I meant that they should have serviced Michael first even if they had to push Massa out of the way to do it. Actually, what are your options in that situation - if you want to swap drivers around when they both come in line astern? |
Matchett mentioning that they had no choice - that they must service the
cars in the order they entered pit lane. Seems that passing in the pit
lane isn't allowed.
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forty
“To embrace an extreme, one must first let go of reason.”
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I have not checked the regulations, but I seem to recall Hobbs or Matchett mentioning that they had no choice - that they must service the cars in the order they entered pit lane. Seems that passing in the pit lane isn't allowed. |
MS's car, then serviced Massa's, but they would've risked condemnation
for ruining Massa's race, and also made it much more difficult for him
to score good WCC points, which are also important to Ferrari.
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CatharticF1 wrote: forty <cforteNO (AT) SPAMgmail (DOT) com> wrote in news:58l8hpF2gp18qU2 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net: CatharticF1 wrote: forty <cforteNO (AT) SPAMgmail (DOT) com> wrote in news:58l05kF2gp18qU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net: TonyMitch (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote: On Apr 17, 8:41 am, forty <cfort... (AT) SPAMgmail (DOT) com> wrote: ...a certain group of posters who were furiously critical of Massa last season when he won in Istanbul because Michael came in 3rd. Evidently, Massa should have done something to remedy that, somehow. The criticism was quite harsh at this inferior pilot who ruined Ferrari's weekend. Hmmmm.... -- forty "To embrace an extreme, one must first let go of reason." ??????????????? Long story, but I'll try to keep it tidy. I was elated at Massa's 1st win last year, but some of the local Tifauxi were upset with him because Michael only came in 3rd. They asserted Massa let the team and Michael down because the team needed a 1-2 finish, not a 1-3. Since they hold Michael as being the 4th member of the Trinity and more infallible than the Pope, this must have all been Massa's fault. At this last race, Massa won from pole and his teammate came in 3rd. Yet, despite the similarity in circumstances, I couldn't help but note differences in their blame-game rhetoric. The mistake was the team's. They should not have serviced Massa first at the pitstop under the SC. ...so Michael should have passed Massa during the SC period, or in the pit lane, or the team should have forced Massa to commit pit strategy suicide by staying out? No whoosh No - I meant that they should have serviced Michael first even if they had to push Massa out of the way to do it. Actually, what are your options in that situation - if you want to swap drivers around when they both come in line astern? I have not checked the regulations, but I seem to recall Hobbs or Matchett mentioning that they had no choice - that they must service the cars in the order they entered pit lane. Seems that passing in the pit lane isn't allowed. |
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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 08:41:57 -0400, forty <cforteNO (AT) SPAMgmail (DOT) com wrote: ...a certain group of posters who were furiously critical of Massa last season when he won in Istanbul because Michael came in 3rd. Evidently, Massa should have done something to remedy that, somehow. The criticism was quite harsh at this inferior pilot who ruined Ferrari's weekend. Hmmmm.... It would have been nice if he'd supported his team and teammates championship opportunities, but he was a rookie. ...What's "Kimi's" excuse? |
it's not his real name? Or are you just a prick?
David
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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:36:46 GMT, Luigi Topolino tifoso (AT) mindspring (DOT) com> wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 08:41:57 -0400, forty <cforteNO (AT) SPAMgmail (DOT) com wrote: ...a certain group of posters who were furiously critical of Massa last season when he won in Istanbul because Michael came in 3rd. Evidently, Massa should have done something to remedy that, somehow. The criticism was quite harsh at this inferior pilot who ruined Ferrari's weekend. Hmmmm.... It would have been nice if he'd supported his team and teammates championship opportunities, but he was a rookie. ...What's "Kimi's" excuse? Why do you persist in putting Kimi in inverted commas? Do you think it's not his real name? Or are you just a prick? David |
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Seems that passing in the pit lane isn't allowed. |
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