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Jungleboy is a moron
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Re: Jungleboy is a moron -
09-12-2005
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People should know the facts before calling out the Jungleboy. The fact is he was out on dry tyres and Montoya did another one of his passes here he sticks the backend right in your grill after he passes you. Given that Pizzonia was on dry tyres, his stopping distance in the wet was going to be suspect. This isn't the first time Montoya has done this as the Montiero incident proves. Yes, it was Pizzonia's fault, but Montoya should have never placed himself in that situation. |
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Ian
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According to Ron Dennis ... |
I used to have a lot of respect for Ron, in the Senna/Prost years, he
was a true racer. Now he's a suit.
He actually said this before the race yesterday about the constructors:
"We are trying to build the McLaren-Mercedes brand."
No true racer would ever say anything like that. You're trying to win
races and championships, not build a brand. Everything that has come
out of Ron's mouth in recent years has been a quote from a management
textbook.
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yes, but Pizzonia is an idiot too |
on now. I'm sure JPM has...
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.. Spa '05 in the wet.. The seven year itch does exist. It wasn't that wet. Get youself some powder. What sort do you take ? |
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So did Pizzonia hit Montoya from behind or from the side? Dunno. IIRC, the replays only caught it when they were already both |
"Behind" or "side" seems to be a fuzzy thing for racing drivers.
Remember, MS also said that Webber hit him from behind, yet Webs was
next to him and hit him near the middle of the side pod. It may be
hard to tell from the cockpit, or it's a reflex reaction to show that
they were hit while in front, so surely it couldn't be their fault.
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 22:55:01 GMT, Mark (AT) Jones (DOT) co.nz (Mark Jones) wrote: So did Pizzonia hit Montoya from behind or from the side? Dunno. IIRC, the replays only caught it when they were already both busy sliding into retirement. "Behind" or "side" seems to be a fuzzy thing for racing drivers. Remember, MS also said that Webber hit him from behind, yet Webs was next to him and hit him near the middle of the side pod. It may be hard to tell from the cockpit, or it's a reflex reaction to show that they were hit while in front, so surely it couldn't be their fault. |
may point to a side-hit rather than a hit like the one between Sato
and Schumacher. The FIA have already fined Pizzonia so they don't
seem to be in any doubt about it.
- Jones
FORZA!
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"Behind" or "side" seems to be a fuzzy thing for racing drivers. Remember, MS also said that Webber hit him from behind, yet Webs was next to him and hit him near the middle of the side pod. It may be hard to tell from the cockpit, or it's a reflex reaction to show that they were hit while in front, so surely it couldn't be their fault. Yeah, but iirc Pizzonia's left front wheel came off, which generally may point to a side-hit rather than a hit like the one between Sato and Schumacher. The FIA have already fined Pizzonia so they don't seem to be in any doubt about it. Yep, i guess we'll never know this one without a footage of the actual |
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move, Pizzonia was too close and not ready for it. But Pizzonia was also trying to make a statement too, he is trying for a permanent ride, from anyone, and would LOVE to show he can drive with JPM or anyone else that started on the front row of a race. Pizzonia just made the wrong kind of statement and may have cost himself some much needed collateral. That won't fly. Pizzi wearing dry tyres may impress the occasional |
none of the team managers would really fall for that for a second.
I don't even think that Pizzi would think that they would think, that
he would think that they would think it. :-)
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Regards, Frank
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