el choron...

"If you look at my car, at my side-pod and the rear side of the car, it is
completely touched. I think that shows everybody who arrived first into the
corner. I was more than half a car in front."

Asslonso, dear, you were more than half a car OUT...

cry, baby, cry... bwuuuaaah....

FB

FB wrote:

"If you look at my car, at my side-pod and the rear side of the car, it is
completely touched. I think that shows everybody who arrived first into the
corner. I was more than half a car in front."

Asslonso, dear, you were more than half a car OUT...

cry, baby, cry... bwuuuaaah....

whatever...massa confirmed in the press conference he intentionally hit
alonso...fia will, of course, do nothing

On Sun, 13 May 2007 22:43:26 +0200, RzR <2r4z0r2 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

FB wrote:
"If you look at my car, at my side-pod and the rear side of the car, it is
completely touched. I think that shows everybody who arrived first into the
corner. I was more than half a car in front."

Asslonso, dear, you were more than half a car OUT...

cry, baby, cry... bwuuuaaah....



whatever...massa confirmed in the press conference he intentionally hit
alonso...fia will, of course, do nothing

Couple of things in there to mention.

1) Massa was stupid to go there. He could have lost his race right
there and then, with his front wheel just behind Alonso's front wheel.
A wheel hop is not a healthy thing with these fragile things.

1a) On the other hand it worked, so good on him.

2) Alonso simply did not give enough space for Massa. The old "rule"
says when a car's front wheel is up to the sidepod, the driver in
front is supposed to allow some racing room. FA did not and simply
squeezed Massa out. While i'm not sure there is an actual rule
regarding this, he should still get a talking to from the FIA, but i
guess it'll be written off as a "racing incident" since nothing much
happened and he did get a penalty of sorts, being shoved back to
third. IMHO, good riddance, that was very Schumacherish driving from
him.


--

Regards, Frank

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On Sun, 13 May 2007 22:43:26 +0200, RzR <2r4z0r2 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

FB wrote:
"If you look at my car, at my side-pod and the rear side of the car, it
is
completely touched. I think that shows everybody who arrived first into
the
corner. I was more than half a car in front."

Asslonso, dear, you were more than half a car OUT...

cry, baby, cry... bwuuuaaah....



whatever...massa confirmed in the press conference he intentionally hit
alonso...fia will, of course, do nothing

Couple of things in there to mention.

1) Massa was stupid to go there. He could have lost his race right
there and then, with his front wheel just behind Alonso's front wheel.
A wheel hop is not a healthy thing with these fragile things.

1a) On the other hand it worked, so good on him.

2) Alonso simply did not give enough space for Massa. The old "rule"
says when a car's front wheel is up to the sidepod, the driver in
front is supposed to allow some racing room. FA did not and simply
squeezed Massa out. While i'm not sure there is an actual rule
regarding this, he should still get a talking to from the FIA, but i
guess it'll be written off as a "racing incident" since nothing much
happened and he did get a penalty of sorts, being shoved back to
third. IMHO, good riddance, that was very Schumacherish driving from
him.


--

Regards, Frank

if you look at the picture you´ll see just that... Massa had nowhere to
go...

http://globoesporte.globo.com/ESP/Ho...7630-EX,00.jpg


FB

FB wrote:

"a_Frank" <fajp (AT) notthis (DOT) optushome.com.au> escreveu na mensagem
news:as8f43dfgv31vme6g9vi43sgnavldgvv6u (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
On Sun, 13 May 2007 22:43:26 +0200, RzR <2r4z0r2 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

FB wrote:
"If you look at my car, at my side-pod and the rear side of the car, it
is
completely touched. I think that shows everybody who arrived first into
the
corner. I was more than half a car in front."

Asslonso, dear, you were more than half a car OUT...

cry, baby, cry... bwuuuaaah....


whatever...massa confirmed in the press conference he intentionally hit
alonso...fia will, of course, do nothing

Couple of things in there to mention.

1) Massa was stupid to go there. He could have lost his race right
there and then, with his front wheel just behind Alonso's front wheel.
A wheel hop is not a healthy thing with these fragile things.

1a) On the other hand it worked, so good on him.

2) Alonso simply did not give enough space for Massa. The old "rule"
says when a car's front wheel is up to the sidepod, the driver in
front is supposed to allow some racing room. FA did not and simply
squeezed Massa out. While i'm not sure there is an actual rule
regarding this, he should still get a talking to from the FIA, but i
guess it'll be written off as a "racing incident" since nothing much
happened and he did get a penalty of sorts, being shoved back to
third. IMHO, good riddance, that was very Schumacherish driving from
him.


--

Regards, Frank

if you look at the picture you´ll see just that... Massa had nowhere to
go...

http://globoesporte.globo.com/ESP/Ho...7630-EX,00.jpg

hehe seems there is still more room to the right of massa :P

"FB" <no.spam (AT) for (DOT) me.com> writes:

if you look at the picture you´ll see just that... Massa had nowhere to
go...

http://globoesporte.globo.com/ESP/Ho...7630-EX,00.jpg

What I can also see is vodafone getting good value for money,
and someone else (vwwwwwwwwwwwl?) getting far less value for
money.

Phil
--
"Home taping is killing big business profits. We left this side blank
so you can help." -- Dead Kennedys, written upon the B-side of tapes of
/In God We Trust, Inc./.

if you look at the picture you´ll see just that... Massa had nowhere to
go...

http://globoesporte.globo.com/ESP/Ho...7630-EX,00.jpg

" 21.2 Each car will carry the race number of its driver (or his
replacement) as published by the FIA at the
beginning of the season. This number must be clearly visible from the front
of the car. "

(from
http://www.fia.com/resources/documen...EGULATIONS.pdf)


I can see that the car on the right is Number 1, can anyone tell me the
number of the car on the left?

PP

"Paul Parr" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> writes:

if you look at the picture you´ll see just that... Massa had nowhere to
go...

http://globoesporte.globo.com/ESP/Ho...7630-EX,00.jpg


" 21.2 Each car will carry the race number of its driver (or his
replacement) as published by the FIA at the
beginning of the season. This number must be clearly visible from the front
of the car. "

(from
http://www.fia.com/resources/documen...EGULATIONS.pdf)


I can see that the car on the right is Number 1, can anyone tell me the
number of the car on the left?

Yes, it's encoded as a Code-39 barcode on the rear wing.

Phil
--
"Home taping is killing big business profits. We left this side blank
so you can help." -- Dead Kennedys, written upon the B-side of tapes of
/In God We Trust, Inc./.

Bigbird wrote:

a_Frank wrote:

On Sun, 13 May 2007 22:43:26 +0200, RzR <2r4z0r2 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

FB wrote:
"If you look at my car, at my side-pod and the rear side of the
car, it is >> completely touched. I think that shows everybody who
arrived first into the >> corner. I was more than half a car in
front."
Asslonso, dear, you were more than half a car OUT...

cry, baby, cry... bwuuuaaah....


whatever...massa confirmed in the press conference he intentionally
hit alonso...fia will, of course, do nothing

Couple of things in there to mention.

1) Massa was stupid to go there. He could have lost his race right
there and then, with his front wheel just behind Alonso's front wheel.
A wheel hop is not a healthy thing with these fragile things.

1a) On the other hand it worked, so good on him.

2) Alonso simply did not give enough space for Massa. The old "rule"
says when a car's front wheel is up to the sidepod, the driver in
front is supposed to allow some racing room. FA did not and simply
squeezed Massa out. While i'm not sure there is an actual rule
regarding this, he should still get a talking to from the FIA, but i
guess it'll be written off as a "racing incident" since nothing much
happened and he did get a penalty of sorts, being shoved back to
third. IMHO, good riddance, that was very Schumacherish driving from
him.


It took nerve and some luck for a nasty one to be avoided. Both drivers
had a lot to lose as they are both under pressure to get a result.
Alonso lost out a lot more than just the 3 places. After a poor showing
last time out (for whatever reasons) he needed a good one here. He
didn't need to win but he did need to show some real form. Behind Kimi
he lost that opportunity. Massa is now brimming with confidence and
Alonso's head is down. Monaco needs confidence.

Is it possible for a place to have confidence?

Knight who says "NI!" wrote:

Bigbird wrote:

a_Frank wrote:

On Sun, 13 May 2007 22:43:26 +0200, RzR <2r4z0r2 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

FB wrote:

"If you look at my car, at my side-pod and the rear side of the

car, it is >> completely touched. I think that shows everybody who
arrived first into the >> corner. I was more than half a car in
front."

Asslonso, dear, you were more than half a car OUT...

cry, baby, cry... bwuuuaaah....


whatever...massa confirmed in the press conference he intentionally
hit alonso...fia will, of course, do nothing

Couple of things in there to mention.
1) Massa was stupid to go there. He could have lost his race right
there and then, with his front wheel just behind Alonso's front wheel.
A wheel hop is not a healthy thing with these fragile things.

1a) On the other hand it worked, so good on him.
2) Alonso simply did not give enough space for Massa. The old "rule"
says when a car's front wheel is up to the sidepod, the driver in
front is supposed to allow some racing room. FA did not and simply
squeezed Massa out. While i'm not sure there is an actual rule
regarding this, he should still get a talking to from the FIA, but i
guess it'll be written off as a "racing incident" since nothing much
happened and he did get a penalty of sorts, being shoved back to
third. IMHO, good riddance, that was very Schumacherish driving from
him.



It took nerve and some luck for a nasty one to be avoided. Both drivers
had a lot to lose as they are both under pressure to get a result.
Alonso lost out a lot more than just the 3 places. After a poor showing
last time out (for whatever reasons) he needed a good one here. He
didn't need to win but he did need to show some real form. Behind Kimi
he lost that opportunity. Massa is now brimming with confidence and
Alonso's head is down. Monaco needs confidence.


Is it possible for a place to have confidence?

With wealth comes confidence. (Undeserved as it sometimes may be.)