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McLaren Front Wing - Moveable areodynamic device
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Re: McLaren Front Wing - Moveable areodynamic device -
05-13-2007
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CatharticF1 wrote: R Brickston wrote in news:91ac431u5ucdq6togm4menh1ddhc5ftcd8 (AT) 4ax (DOT) co If this was Ferrari there would be a rasf1 firestorm on the subject. Oh, did I mention that McLaren has a Brit driver? The hypocrisy is delicious.. http://www.supload.us/free/mclaren(mh).gif/view/ What a coincidence! It pushes down and flattens on the straight and returns to its original form approaching the corner. Such clever chaps at McLaren to have worked this out. You know it would be just like Johnny Foreigner to accuse them of cheating now, when in fact it's just good old fashioned ingenuity. If it breaks the rules it needs to be addressed, otherwise why have regulations at all. You can't pick and choose to serve your own agenda Brendan. Never stopped him before. |
Peter
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R Brickston wrote in news:91ac431u5ucdq6togm4menh1ddhc5ftcd8 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com: If this was Ferrari there would be a rasf1 firestorm on the subject. Oh, did I mention that McLaren has a Brit driver? The hypocrisy is delicious.. http://www.supload.us/free/mclaren(mh).gif/view/ What a coincidence! It pushes down and flattens on the straight and returns to its original form approaching the corner. |
yes. As to whether the angle changes, you can't possibly see that from
that shot - the angle of the wing to the camera will change if it
deflects downwards because of the geometry, but the angle of the wing to
the air may well stay the same.
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Such clever chaps at McLaren to have worked this out. You know it would be just like Johnny Foreigner to accuse them of cheating now, when in fact it's just good old fashioned ingenuity. |
something about it, they'd have to increase the test, as is their right
within the rules. However, if they did that this weekend, they'd
probably find themselves ruling out everyone else's wing, because you
can bet that all the other teams wings also bend about 4mm when you load
them up with whatever the test is at the moment. I've been saying for
ages that the load tests are inadequate but it's not surprising that
McLaren want to take advantage of that just as much as the other teams
already do. If it prompts the FIA to change the test, so much the better.
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Phil
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On 13 May 2007 02:52:22 GMT, Steve Greenaway <macfisto (AT) engsoc (DOT) org wrote: Kermit the Frog stuck a mic in Phil's face, who said: R Brickston wrote: If this was Ferrari there would be a rasf1 firestorm on the subject. Well, I did predict that it would probably do that, and now it does. Of course, following the precedent set by their treatment of Ferrari last year, the FIA will simply tell McLaren to fix it next race. I'm very surprised McLaren is getting away with that wing. Why hasn't Ferrari protested it already? |
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Kermit the Frog stuck a mic in Phil's face, who said: R Brickston wrote: If this was Ferrari there would be a rasf1 firestorm on the subject. Well, I did predict that it would probably do that, and now it does. Of course, following the precedent set by their treatment of Ferrari last year, the FIA will simply tell McLaren to fix it next race. I'm very surprised McLaren is getting away with that wing. Why hasn't Ferrari protested it already? |
race, with the revs/gear/throttle/brake graphic, and look how far the
end-plate moves in relation to the graphic - that's your answer. If
Ferrari protest McLaren, then McLaren will simply protest Ferrari and
probably everyone else in the pitlane and the FIA will say, the wings
pass the load tests but since there's clearly a concern, we'll make the
tests harder. And the circus moves on.
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If this was Ferrari there would be a rasf1 firestorm on the subject. Oh, did I mention that McLaren has a Brit driver? |
bet who wins?
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"...Luigi follow only the Ferraris."
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On Sat, 12 May 2007 21:03:54 GMT, R Brickston rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@> wrote: If this was Ferrari there would be a rasf1 firestorm on the subject. Oh, did I mention that McLaren has a Brit driver? Dennis say it's within the regulations, as was Ferrari's floor, wanna bet who wins? At least try to compare apples with apples. Any sliding pins or |
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Bigbird <bigbird.usenet (AT) gmail (DOT) com> writes CatharticF1 wrote: R Brickston wrote in news:91ac431u5ucdq6togm4menh1ddhc5ftcd8 (AT) 4ax (DOT) co If this was Ferrari there would be a rasf1 firestorm on the subject. Oh, did I mention that McLaren has a Brit driver? The hypocrisy is delicious.. http://www.supload.us/free/mclaren(mh).gif/view/ What a coincidence! It pushes down and flattens on the straight and returns to its original form approaching the corner. Such clever chaps at McLaren to have worked this out. You know it would be just like Johnny Foreigner to accuse them of cheating now, when in fact it's just good old fashioned ingenuity. If it breaks the rules it needs to be addressed, otherwise why have regulations at all. You can't pick and choose to serve your own agenda Brendan. Never stopped him before. |
Whatever you do - don't discuss the issue..
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CatharticF1
"What you thought was Freedom is just Greed."
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CatharticF1 wrote: R Brickston wrote in news:91ac431u5ucdq6togm4menh1ddhc5ftcd8 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com: If this was Ferrari there would be a rasf1 firestorm on the subject. Oh, did I mention that McLaren has a Brit driver? The hypocrisy is delicious.. http://www.supload.us/free/mclaren(mh).gif/view/ What a coincidence! It pushes down and flattens on the straight and returns to its original form approaching the corner. I don't think you can quite go that far. It gets closer to the nose, yes. As to whether the angle changes, you can't possibly see that from that shot - the angle of the wing to the camera will change if it deflects downwards because of the geometry, but the angle of the wing to the air may well stay the same. |
You're not that naive of intent, and well aware of the benefits.
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Such clever chaps at McLaren to have worked this out. You know it would be just like Johnny Foreigner to accuse them of cheating now, when in fact it's just good old fashioned ingenuity. It passes the load tests, presumably, which means that in order to do something about it, they'd have to increase the test, as is their right within the rules. However, if they did that this weekend, they'd probably find themselves ruling out everyone else's wing, because you can bet that all the other teams wings also bend about 4mm when you load them up with whatever the test is at the moment. I've been saying for ages that the load tests are inadequate but it's not surprising that McLaren want to take advantage of that just as much as the other teams already do. If it prompts the FIA to change the test, so much the better. |
I presume something will happen to prevent proliferation, but what
remains is the impression from many here that McLaren innovate while
Ferrari cheat.
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CatharticF1
"What you thought was Freedom is just Greed."
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"Luigi Topolino" <tifoso (AT) mindspring (DOT) com> wrote in message news:tj0d43hs9e2abjls9gb810pdm8g2avbfq7 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On 13 May 2007 02:52:22 GMT, Steve Greenaway <macfisto (AT) engsoc (DOT) org wrote: Kermit the Frog stuck a mic in Phil's face, who said: R Brickston wrote: If this was Ferrari there would be a rasf1 firestorm on the subject. Well, I did predict that it would probably do that, and now it does. Of course, following the precedent set by their treatment of Ferrari last year, the FIA will simply tell McLaren to fix it next race. I'm very surprised McLaren is getting away with that wing. Why hasn't Ferrari protested it already? Because Fiat is using it's own version of a flexi front wing.. |
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CatharticF1
"What you thought was Freedom is just Greed."
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On Sun, 13 May 2007 15:59:03 GMT, Luigi Topolino tifoso (AT) mindspring (DOT) com> wrote: On Sat, 12 May 2007 21:03:54 GMT, R Brickston rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@> wrote: If this was Ferrari there would be a rasf1 firestorm on the subject. Oh, did I mention that McLaren has a Brit driver? Dennis say it's within the regulations, as was Ferrari's floor, wanna bet who wins? At least try to compare apples with apples. Any sliding pins or springs on that wing ? |
Focus!
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CatharticF1
"What you thought was Freedom is just Greed."
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