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Default Re: McLaren to use new color scheme ? - 05-19-2007 , 03:52 AM






Paul-B paul (AT) rasf1 (DOT) net said:
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Bigbird wrote:

Paul-B wrote:

g.skinner wrote:

On 18 May, 04:58, deadguy3 <deadg... (AT) upstairs (DOT) com> wrote:
On Fri, 18 May 2007 00:09:12 +0200,

Goldrusher wrote:
old:http://images.gpupdate.net/large/73861.jpg
new:http://images.gpupdate.net/large/74389.jpg

Less Vodafone red. Looks much better, more like the West
Mclarens.

yes the change from caucazoid to
negroid is quite a change.

Oh look! A racist with an attempt at humour, pity the joke was as
crap as their intelligence.

His post wasn't racist, more taking the piss out of racists. It went
right over your head, didn't it?

Mine too. Perhaps you can elaborate and explain the finer detail.

This is more or less how it first appeared to me.

"That's because it is no longer a white mans team but a niggers team."

Perhaps, as you share the same humour, you could also share the joke
and let us better understand the motivations of deadguy3 (and yourself
I suppose).

The post I was referring to was "yes the change from caucazoid to
negroid is quite a change.", which IMO is not a racist remark. Since
the original discussion was the fact that the post was pointing out
that the wrong picture and year were shown in the link it became
apparent because in one the driver was white and in the other the
driver was black (Hamilton).

AFAIK no-one has used the phrase "That's because it is no longer a
white mans team but a niggers team." other than yourself, which seems
to say a bit more about you than my post says about me.

The only two people to have used the n-word in rasf1, other than the
usual trolls, are yourself and Lardboy. Puts you in pretty good
company, doesn't it?


Bigots aren't used to people like Hamilton, or soon to be Stanley Cup champion
goalie Ray Emery from Ottawa (hockey, like auto racing is still a "white game")


Hamilton's way with the press can only be described as "eloquent".

Ray's the same way. Speaks eloquently, plays well. He keeps it simple.

In fact, the press isn't interested in his colour or creed at all.

Not far from what happens with Lewis.

To think that Lewis Hamilton was racing in GP2, and Nelson Piquet Jr. called a
press conference just to inform the press that he had nothing to say!

That's an ass! (is Piquet another word for ASS?)






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Default Re: McLaren to use new color scheme ? - 05-19-2007 , 03:53 AM







"ASG" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote

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"Goldrusher" <goldrusherREMOVETHIS (AT) telenet (DOT) be> wrote in message
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old: http://images.gpupdate.net/large/73861.jpg
new: http://images.gpupdate.net/large/74389.jpg

Less Vodafone red. Looks much better, more like the West Mclarens.


Isn't it just unpainted carbon fibre but with the sponsors decals on?

If they are trying new aero parts they may not have had time (or just
bothered) to paint them. I read somewhere that McLaren use a special paint
process to get the metallic effect. The Vodaphone name would take minutes
to put on in the garage.

Regards, Andrew

I quite like it not red. Just my opinion though!




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Default Re: McLaren to use new color scheme ? - 05-19-2007 , 03:55 AM



On 19 May, 09:42, "Paul-B" <p... (AT) rasf1 (DOT) net> wrote:
Quote:
g.skinner wrote:
His post wasn't racist, more taking the piss out of racists. It
went right over your head, didn't it?

Perhaps, as you share the same humour, you could also share the joke
and let us better understand the motivations of deadguy3 (and
yourself I suppose).

I'd rather not try and understand the motivation of someone who needs
to define a person by the colour of their skin for the sake of a weak
joke. If that's what makes Deadguy3 and Paul-B happy I feel sorry for
them, however changing someones attitude to racial issues is difficult
as they often don't see a problem with racial discrimination.

Show me a single post here, ever, where I have defined a person by the
colour of his or her skin.

You can't, of course, because there hasn't been one in all the 8 or
more years I've subscribed to rasf1.

You were defending what would be classed a racist comment, the racist
comment was defining someones skin colour - so in effect you have
agreed that someone can be defined by the colour of their skin even if
you've not said it.



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Default Re: McLaren to use new color scheme ? - 05-19-2007 , 04:38 AM



g.skinner gp.skinner (AT) talk21 (DOT) com said:
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On 19 May, 09:42, "Paul-B" <p... (AT) rasf1 (DOT) net> wrote:
g.skinner wrote:
His post wasn't racist, more taking the piss out of racists. It
went right over your head, didn't it?

Perhaps, as you share the same humour, you could also share the joke
and let us better understand the motivations of deadguy3 (and
yourself I suppose).

I'd rather not try and understand the motivation of someone who needs
to define a person by the colour of their skin for the sake of a weak
joke. If that's what makes Deadguy3 and Paul-B happy I feel sorry for
them, however changing someones attitude to racial issues is difficult
as they often don't see a problem with racial discrimination.

Show me a single post here, ever, where I have defined a person by the
colour of his or her skin.

You can't, of course, because there hasn't been one in all the 8 or
more years I've subscribed to rasf1.


You were defending what would be classed a racist comment, the racist
comment was defining someones skin colour - so in effect you have
agreed that someone can be defined by the colour of their skin even if
you've not said it.


Paul said no such thing.

Do, go away.


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Default Re: McLaren to use new color scheme ? - 05-19-2007 , 05:01 AM



Quote:
Paul said no such thing.
Yes he did if you read through the original posts.


Quote:
Do, go away.
Why because you don't like to find out that some people you consider
friends may have an attitude you'd not like to associate yourself
with. If you wish to put your head in the sand and hide from such
issues be my guest, I find such attitudes offensive and don't see why
I should be refrained from standing up against racism.



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Default Re: McLaren to use new color scheme ? - 05-19-2007 , 12:04 PM



On 19 May 2007 03:01:00 -0700, "g.skinner" <gp.skinner (AT) talk21 (DOT) com>
wrote:

Quote:
Paul said no such thing.

Yes he did if you read through the original posts.


Do, go away.

Why because you don't like to find out that some people you consider
friends may have an attitude you'd not like to associate yourself
with. If you wish to put your head in the sand and hide from such
issues be my guest, I find such attitudes offensive and don't see why
I should be refrained from standing up against racism.
You are neither refrained nor restrained from standing up against
racism. Standing up against racism is good. Fuck off and find some to
stand up against.

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Default Re: McLaren to use new color scheme ? - 05-19-2007 , 01:01 PM



Quote:
You are neither refrained nor restrained from standing up against
racism. Standing up against racism is good. Fuck off and find some to
stand up against.

Ah yes, abuse, the resort of someone with no argument or anything else
worth saying.



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Default Re: McLaren to use new color scheme ? - 05-19-2007 , 02:29 PM



On 19 May 2007 11:01:36 -0700, "g.skinner" <gp.skinner (AT) talk21 (DOT) com>
wrote:

Quote:
You are neither refrained nor restrained from standing up against
racism. Standing up against racism is good. Fuck off and find some to
stand up against.


Ah yes, abuse, the resort of someone with no argument or anything else
worth saying.
And your argument is? Do you have anything worth saying?

Let's be clear about this - abusing you has nothing to do with racism.
I have no idea what your race might be, nor do I care. I am abusing
you because you are stupid. So if you want to accuse me of stupidism,
feel free.

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Default Re: McLaren to use new color scheme ? - 05-21-2007 , 09:11 AM



g.skinner wrote:
Quote:
You are neither refrained nor restrained from standing up against
racism. Standing up against racism is good. Fuck off and find some to
stand up against.


Ah yes, abuse, the resort of someone with no argument or anything else
worth saying.

So, are you the pot or the kettle?

Trolling for racism - something quite worth ignoring IMHO.

*PLONK*

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Default Re: McLaren to use new color scheme ? - 05-21-2007 , 12:23 PM



On Fri, 18 May 2007 12:17:03 +0100, "ASG" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
"Goldrusher" <goldrusherREMOVETHIS (AT) telenet (DOT) be> wrote in message
news:Ej43i.108848$0m.70879 (AT) blueberry (DOT) telenet-ops.be...
old: http://images.gpupdate.net/large/73861.jpg
new: http://images.gpupdate.net/large/74389.jpg

Less Vodafone red. Looks much better, more like the West Mclarens.


Isn't it just unpainted carbon fibre but with the sponsors decals on?

If they are trying new aero parts they may not have had time (or just
bothered) to paint them. I read somewhere that McLaren use a special paint
process to get the metallic effect. The Vodaphone name would take minutes to
put on in the garage.

Regards, Andrew

I think the fact I cna't see a car number on it and there is an aerial
on the car may support that this is a development/test car


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