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OT - Audi Threatens to Leave ALMS!
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Re: OT - Audi Threatens to Leave ALMS! -
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Graham Hodgson wrote: News wrote: Graham Hodgson wrote: I'm still waiting for you to explain to me how gearing overcomes aerodynamics... The "right" gearing kinda sneaks up on it and defeats drag, no? You mean it jumps out from behind a hedge and blasts drag away with an M16 or something? No, a shrubbery. It provides a two-level effect with a little path running down the middle that defeats drag, overcoming aerodynamics. |
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The difference is that in F1 the rule changes *always* affect every team in exactly the same way, whereas in this case it appears that Audi are being unfairly penalised. |
weight penalty in the late 1980's because their Audi A4 Quattro all wheel drive
was blowing everyone out of the water in the IMSA GTO class.
They eventually packed it in and raced in the SCCA Trans-Am series instead.
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News wrote: Graham Hodgson wrote: News wrote: Graham Hodgson wrote: I'm still waiting for you to explain to me how gearing overcomes aerodynamics... The "right" gearing kinda sneaks up on it and defeats drag, no? You mean it jumps out from behind a hedge and blasts drag away with an M16 or something? No, a shrubbery. It provides a two-level effect with a little path running down the middle that defeats drag, overcoming aerodynamics. By shouting "ni"? |
Da. Ni.
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| Graham Hodgson wrote: News wrote: Graham Hodgson wrote: News wrote: Graham Hodgson wrote: I'm still waiting for you to explain to me how gearing overcomes aerodynamics... The "right" gearing kinda sneaks up on it and defeats drag, no? You mean it jumps out from behind a hedge and blasts drag away with an M16 or something? No, a shrubbery. It provides a two-level effect with a little path running down the middle that defeats drag, overcoming aerodynamics. By shouting "ni"? Da. Ni. Except that testing proved "Ni" to be less effective than what the |
P'tang, Zoo Boing! Goodem-zoo-owli-zhiv"
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mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.” - Ernest Hemingway
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News wrote: Graham Hodgson wrote: News wrote: Graham Hodgson wrote: News wrote: Graham Hodgson wrote: I'm still waiting for you to explain to me how gearing overcomes aerodynamics... The "right" gearing kinda sneaks up on it and defeats drag, no? You mean it jumps out from behind a hedge and blasts drag away with an M16 or something? No, a shrubbery. It provides a two-level effect with a little path running down the middle that defeats drag, overcoming aerodynamics. By shouting "ni"? Da. Ni. Except that testing proved "Ni" to be less effective than what the models initially showed. They have since switched to "Ecky, Ecky, Ecky, P'tang, Zoo Boing! Goodem-zoo-owli-zhiv" |
Properly designed mass dampers would have cleared that up.
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| forty wrote: News wrote: Graham Hodgson wrote: News wrote: Graham Hodgson wrote: News wrote: Graham Hodgson wrote: I'm still waiting for you to explain to me how gearing overcomes aerodynamics... The "right" gearing kinda sneaks up on it and defeats drag, no? You mean it jumps out from behind a hedge and blasts drag away with an M16 or something? No, a shrubbery. It provides a two-level effect with a little path running down the middle that defeats drag, overcoming aerodynamics. By shouting "ni"? Da. Ni. Except that testing proved "Ni" to be less effective than what the models initially showed. They have since switched to "Ecky, Ecky, Ecky, P'tang, Zoo Boing! Goodem-zoo-owli-zhiv" Properly designed mass dampers would have cleared that up. |
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| forty wrote: News wrote: Graham Hodgson wrote: News wrote: Graham Hodgson wrote: News wrote: Graham Hodgson wrote: I'm still waiting for you to explain to me how gearing overcomes aerodynamics... The "right" gearing kinda sneaks up on it and defeats drag, no? You mean it jumps out from behind a hedge and blasts drag away with an M16 or something? No, a shrubbery. It provides a two-level effect with a little path running down the middle that defeats drag, overcoming aerodynamics. By shouting "ni"? Da. Ni. Except that testing proved "Ni" to be less effective than what the models initially showed. They have since switched to "Ecky, Ecky, Ecky, P'tang, Zoo Boing! Goodem-zoo-owli-zhiv" Properly designed mass dampers would have cleared that up. |
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"Marco Materazzi" <materazzi (AT) inter (DOT) it> wrote in message news:materazzi-23B5BC.23054214082006 (AT) free (DOT) teranews.com... In article <4kbitbF9qbi2U54 (AT) individual (DOT) net>, forty <cforteNO (AT) SPAMgmail (DOT) com> wrote: Question: Does anyone else think this is a little whiny? I can see to a degree the point they are trying to make, but it strikes me more as them being pissed about IMSA wanting to help other teams be competitive instead of getting hopelessly spanked by Audi at almost every race. Formula 1 pulled the same bullshit in engineering Ferrari out of their championships, last year. FIA didn't like Ferrari winning every race for the prior seven years, so they manipulated the Rulebook to let weaker teams get a shot. Ferrari should have threatened the same thing. You do spout a lot of bollocks Brian. The difference is that in F1 the rule changes *always* affect every team in exactly the same way, whereas in this case it appears that Audi are being unfairly penalised. I say 'appears' because there is a difference in how a normal petrol engine operates compared to its diesel counterpart; I assume the egg-heads have worked out the new rules for petrol engines by working out the notional difference. (Think about the old F1 days when Renault appeared on the grid with their turbo, and immediately scared the pants off everyone else; IIRC the FIA at that time legislated to make a rule that specified engine capacities so that normally aspirated engines could compete fairly with the turbos). |
the "supercharged 1500" thing was a CSI afterthought, leaving those with
otherwise redundant 1.5 engines the option of sticking a supercharger on it
in order to keep racing without the expense of developing a whole new and
very different engine. Turbocharging petrol engines was by then very much in
the future.
Actually, the whole thing was quite humourous....the constructors wanted a
2-liter formula (both Coventry-Climax V8s, Ferrari V8s and BRM V8s could be
stretched to 2-liter) so they discussed how to put to the powers that be at
the time. They thought they could not have a 2.5 liter F1 since they had
just had that (that was the formula that the 1.5 liter tiddlers replaced)
and they thought the CSI would not take their advice anyway, so decided
suggest a 3-litre formula...feeling fairly confident that the CSI would then
come up with 2 litres as their own
compromise. Talk about ideas backfiring...when the constructors suggested
3-litres to the CSI, expecting to be turned down, the tech boffins said, in
the late Tony Rudd's words: "Right, three litres it is then. Next item!"
Doc
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Marco Materazzi wrote: In article <12e2pocc386592f (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com>, "Doc Knutsen" <doc@cheekracingDOTcom> wrote: "Marco Materazzi" <materazzi (AT) inter (DOT) it> skrev i melding news:materazzi-23B5BC.23054214082006 (AT) free (DOT) teranews.com... In article <4kbitbF9qbi2U54 (AT) individual (DOT) net>, forty <cforteNO (AT) SPAMgmail (DOT) com> wrote: Question: Does anyone else think this is a little whiny? I can see to a degree the point they are trying to make, but it strikes me more as them being pissed about IMSA wanting to help other teams be competitive instead of getting hopelessly spanked by Audi at almost every race. Formula 1 pulled the same bullshit in engineering Ferrari out of their championships, last year. FIA didn't like Ferrari winning every race for the prior seven years, so they manipulated the Rulebook to let weaker teams get a shot. Ferrari should have threatened the same thing. History is not your strong suit, Brain. Nor is honesty yours. Go fuck yourself, coward. |
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run dry...
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forty <cforteNO (AT) SPAMgmail (DOT) com> wrote: Question: Does anyone else think this is a little whiny? Yes, next question please. ;-) |
couldn't help but wonder - why Penske and Porsche were not up in arms
over the larger air restrictors and increased turbo boost for 2L 4-cyl
LMP2 entries?
Maybe it is because Penske isn't one to ride the Whaaaambulance. :-D
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“There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and
mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.” - Ernest Hemingway
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