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Default Re: {Pool} Virtual r.a.s.f1 betting pool: SPAIN - 05-08-2007 , 06:48 PM






Tony Gartshore penned the following at 08/05/2007 3:41 PM:

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Fair enough... I understood they had a booking day in January, the
Gruaniad probably knows better than me though..
I think Jeff should get to the bottom of this.
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Default Re: {Pool} Virtual r.a.s.f1 betting pool: SPAIN - 05-09-2007 , 03:47 AM







"Paul-B" <paul (AT) rasf1 (DOT) net> wrote


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British cooking is now well up amongst the best in the world. We have a
large number of home-grown Michelin-star chefs, and that number is
growing rapidly. The 2007 guide lists 122 UK restaurants with Michelin
stars. Many of the restaurants in Europe which have been awarded stars
are cheffed by British chefs. While Lewis is in Woking he will be
within easy driving distancer of at least a dozen restaurants which
will be able to offer a menu which is the equal of anything the rest of
Europe can provide. And no lutefisk, either.

And you didn't even mention all the swearing.




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Default Re: {Pool} Virtual r.a.s.f1 betting pool: SPAIN - 05-09-2007 , 04:17 AM



["cowoffunk" <cow (AT) of (DOT) funk>]
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Is that because the cooking is a) so good or b) so bad?
you choose :-).

actually, my thought was that if Hamilton is going to lose focus, now
would be the most likely time. he's been back home and had time to
absorb things and probably been exposed to the fact that the brits are
wetting themselves with pride for having a credible contender to the
F1 throne. up until this point he has largely been away from all that.

of course, this is just a guess. he might just be that good at
keeping his focus.

-Bjørn


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Default Re: {Pool} Virtual r.a.s.f1 betting pool: SPAIN - 05-09-2007 , 04:21 AM



["Paul-B" <paul (AT) rasf1 (DOT) net>]
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The old nonsense about British food being bad is just that, nonsense.
And thank goodness for that.
and yet you avoid refering to the more traditional english
contributions to cooking, which largely seems to consist of soggy
bacon and various ways of disguising second rate meat in various forms
of pies.

(oh sure, Norway has its share of disgusting food, but for the most
part, traditional norwegian food is very simple and based on access to
quality produce. you would be right in saying that it lacks
imagination and creativity though).

-Bjørn


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Default Re: {Pool} Virtual r.a.s.f1 betting pool: SPAIN - 05-09-2007 , 07:16 AM



Bjorn Borud wrote:

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["Paul-B" <paul (AT) rasf1 (DOT) net>]

The old nonsense about British food being bad is just that,
nonsense. And thank goodness for that.

and yet you avoid refering to the more traditional english
contributions to cooking, which largely seems to consist of soggy
bacon and various ways of disguising second rate meat in various forms
of pies.

(oh sure, Norway has its share of disgusting food, but for the most
part, traditional norwegian food is very simple and based on access to
quality produce. you would be right in saying that it lacks
imagination and creativity though).

-Bjørn
Well, cooking moves on, tastes and recipes develop. We make, and have,
for years, made brilliant raised pork pies, for instance, and my
mother's steak and kidney pies, with shortcrust pastry had to be tasted
to be believed. The kind of "traditional" food you describe is not and
never has been my experience. Growing up in Cornwall we lived on
freshly cooked freshly caught or killed or grown produce, I can still
recall eating grilled mackerel less than 2 hours after they were
caught. The urban myth of bad British food is just that, an urban myth.
Sure there have been and still are bloody awful restaurants (although
some of the worst food I've had the misfortune to eat has been in
restaurants in France, Belgium and Holland), but they don't last long.

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Default Re: {Pool} Virtual r.a.s.f1 betting pool: SPAIN - 05-09-2007 , 07:39 AM



["Paul-B" <paul (AT) rasf1 (DOT) net>]
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Well, cooking moves on, tastes and recipes develop. We make, and have,
for years, made brilliant raised pork pies, for instance, and my
mother's steak and kidney pies, with shortcrust pastry had to be tasted
to be believed.
pies are not food. they are leftoverscunningly disguised as food.

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The kind of "traditional" food you describe is not and
never has been my experience. Growing up in Cornwall we lived on
freshly cooked freshly caught or killed or grown produce, I can still
recall eating grilled mackerel less than 2 hours after they were
caught.
:-)

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The urban myth of bad British food is just that, an urban myth.
Sure there have been and still are bloody awful restaurants
(although some of the worst food I've had the misfortune to eat has
been in restaurants in France, Belgium and Holland), but they don't
last long.
I guess I have been served one too many "english breakfasts". words
like "repulsive" and "disgusting" come to mind.

I think the number one worst food experience I've had is eating in
Kalamata in Greece though. the only thing you could safely eat was
whole grilled fish caught locally, but even that gets a bit boring
a week. anything else, they were simply not able to cook.
(oh, and never ever buy seafood that wasn't caught locally the same
day in Kalamata. it is completely inedible and probably dangerous).

-Bjørn



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Default Re: {Pool} Virtual r.a.s.f1 betting pool: SPAIN - 05-09-2007 , 08:03 AM



Bjorn Borud wrote:

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["Paul-B" <paul (AT) rasf1 (DOT) net>]

Well, cooking moves on, tastes and recipes develop. We make, and
have, for years, made brilliant raised pork pies, for instance,
and my mother's steak and kidney pies, with shortcrust pastry had
to be tasted to be believed.

pies are not food. they are leftoverscunningly disguised as food.

None of my pies are made from leftovers. My pasties, for instance, are
made from the very best Scotch beef, fresh swedes and onions, and
home-made stock.

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The kind of "traditional" food you describe is not and
never has been my experience. Growing up in Cornwall we lived on
freshly cooked freshly caught or killed or grown produce, I can
still recall eating grilled mackerel less than 2 hours after they
were caught.

:-)

The urban myth of bad British food is just that, an urban myth.
Sure there have been and still are bloody awful restaurants
(although some of the worst food I've had the misfortune to eat has
been in restaurants in France, Belgium and Holland), but they don't
last long.

I guess I have been served one too many "english breakfasts". words
like "repulsive" and "disgusting" come to mind.

Depends what you call an English breakfast. Eggs, bacon, black-pudding,
mushrooms with toast, preceded by marmalade on toast is a delicious,
balanced, nutricious way to start the day. And properly made devilled
kidneys, or eggs benedict equally good.

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I think the number one worst food experience I've had is eating in
Kalamata in Greece though. the only thing you could safely eat was
whole grilled fish caught locally, but even that gets a bit boring
a week. anything else, they were simply not able to cook.
(oh, and never ever buy seafood that wasn't caught locally the same
day in Kalamata. it is completely inedible and probably dangerous).

-Bjørn
I've been to Kalamata (Stoupa), had some wonderful figs and olives
there. And a rather good roasted octopus, but yes, mostly the food was
awful.

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Phil Newnham
 
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Default Re: {Pool} Virtual r.a.s.f1 betting pool: SPAIN - 05-09-2007 , 08:11 AM



Bjorn Borud wrote:
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["Paul-B" <paul (AT) rasf1 (DOT) net>]
|
| Well, cooking moves on, tastes and recipes develop. We make, and have,
| for years, made brilliant raised pork pies, for instance, and my
| mother's steak and kidney pies, with shortcrust pastry had to be tasted
| to be believed.

pies are not food. they are leftoverscunningly disguised as food.
Melton Mowbray pork pies are definitely food. A proper, well made steak
and ale pie, made with good quality lean brazing steak, is very
definitely food (and the thought of that is making me hungry even though
I just ate). The problem is that it's not difficult to make a pie from
questionable stuff that tastes vaguely like it might be food, on account
of being well seasoned and hot.

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| The kind of "traditional" food you describe is not and
| never has been my experience. Growing up in Cornwall we lived on
| freshly cooked freshly caught or killed or grown produce, I can still
| recall eating grilled mackerel less than 2 hours after they were
| caught.

:-)
I can second this opinion of growing up and eating good quality food.
I've just had lunch that consisted of home made tomato and vegetable
soup, made by my mother this morning, home made wholemeal bread, and
home made jam.

Quote:
| The urban myth of bad British food is just that, an urban myth.
| Sure there have been and still are bloody awful restaurants
| (although some of the worst food I've had the misfortune to eat has
| been in restaurants in France, Belgium and Holland), but they don't
| last long.

I guess I have been served one too many "english breakfasts". words
like "repulsive" and "disgusting" come to mind.
And poor quality, probably. English breakfast is not supposed to consist
of hours old scrambled eggs, soggy bacon and slightly dodgy sausages.
English breakfast done properly should be an enjoyable experience,
although it's too much food for me at that time in the morning. My Dad
likes a fryup but wouldn't have it more than once a week. I'm happy
enough with a bowl of muesli and a cup of tea.

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I think the number one worst food experience I've had is eating in
Kalamata in Greece though. the only thing you could safely eat was
whole grilled fish caught locally, but even that gets a bit boring
a week. anything else, they were simply not able to cook.
(oh, and never ever buy seafood that wasn't caught locally the same
day in Kalamata. it is completely inedible and probably dangerous).
:|

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Default Re: {Pool} Virtual r.a.s.f1 betting pool: SPAIN - 05-09-2007 , 08:34 AM



"Paul-B" <paul (AT) rasf1 (DOT) net> writes:
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Bjorn Borud wrote:
["Paul-B" <paul (AT) rasf1 (DOT) net>]
The urban myth of bad British food is just that, an urban myth.

I guess I have been served one too many "english breakfasts". words
like "repulsive" and "disgusting" come to mind.

Depends what you call an English breakfast. Eggs, bacon, black-pudding,
mushrooms with toast, preceded by marmalade on toast is a delicious,
balanced, nutricious way to start the day.
For balanced and nutricious, you also need baked beans.
A proper banger (not a cheap rusk-filled one) is always on my list too.

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And properly made devilled
kidneys, or eggs benedict equally good.
Devilled kidneys for breakfast? Blimey, how the other half lives...

Phil
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Default Re: {Pool} Virtual r.a.s.f1 betting pool: SPAIN - 05-09-2007 , 08:34 AM



James Connors <jconnors22 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

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Tony Gartshore penned the following at 08/05/2007 3:41 PM:

Fair enough... I understood they had a booking day in January, the
Gruaniad probably knows better than me though..

I think Jeff should get to the bottom of this.
I'd love to... But I'd have to sell my boat to pay the restaurant
bill! :-)



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