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Default Qualifying is still crap - 05-16-2007 , 11:38 AM






I still think the qualifying is crap. The first two sessions are OK but the
last session should be run single car, one lap. The problem is, when
everyone is out on their final hot lap the television is watching the start
finish line. BORING! And I'm still tired of the race-fuel qualifying, even
if they do get to burn it off. It's all so stupid, really.



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Default Re: Qualifying is still crap - 05-16-2007 , 12:08 PM






Bigbird wrote:

Quote:
just bob wrote:

I still think the qualifying is crap. The first two sessions are OK
but the last session should be run single car, one lap. The problem
is, when everyone is out on their final hot lap the television is
watching the start finish line. BORING! And I'm still tired of the
race-fuel qualifying, even if they do get to burn it off. It's all
so stupid, really.

The later half of Q3 is almost as exciting as qualifying ever was at
it's best, add back Q1 and Q2 and, while we don't get the single all
out low fuel lap, I reckon this is the one aspect of todays F1 that
they have got right.
Q1 and Q2 are fine as they are, but watching a line of F1 cars circling
to burn off fuel is a drag.

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Default Re: Qualifying is still crap - 05-16-2007 , 01:12 PM




"Paul-B" <paul (AT) rasf1 (DOT) net> wrote

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Bigbird wrote:

just bob wrote:

I still think the qualifying is crap. The first two sessions are OK
but the last session should be run single car, one lap. The problem
is, when everyone is out on their final hot lap the television is
watching the start finish line. BORING! And I'm still tired of the
race-fuel qualifying, even if they do get to burn it off. It's all
so stupid, really.

The later half of Q3 is almost as exciting as qualifying ever was at
it's best, add back Q1 and Q2 and, while we don't get the single all
out low fuel lap, I reckon this is the one aspect of todays F1 that
they have got right.

Q1 and Q2 are fine as they are, but watching a line of F1 cars circling
to burn off fuel is a drag.

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t agree with bigbird and think qualifying is exciting.




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Default Re: Qualifying is still crap - 05-16-2007 , 01:25 PM




"Paul-B" <paul (AT) rasf1 (DOT) net> wrote

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Bigbird wrote:

just bob wrote:

I still think the qualifying is crap. The first two sessions are OK
but the last session should be run single car, one lap. The problem
is, when everyone is out on their final hot lap the television is
watching the start finish line. BORING! And I'm still tired of the
race-fuel qualifying, even if they do get to burn it off. It's all
so stupid, really.

The later half of Q3 is almost as exciting as qualifying ever was at
it's best, add back Q1 and Q2 and, while we don't get the single all
out low fuel lap, I reckon this is the one aspect of todays F1 that
they have got right.

Q1 and Q2 are fine as they are, but watching a line of F1 cars circling
to burn off fuel is a drag.
I agreed Q1 and Q2 are fine.

But what about none of the final hot laps being shown - all we get is a shot
of the start finish line as the cars cross?

It's crap.




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Default Re: Qualifying is still crap - 05-16-2007 , 01:33 PM




"just bob" <kilbyfan@aoldotcom> wrote

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I still think the qualifying is crap. The first two sessions are OK but the
last session should be run single car, one lap. The problem is, when
everyone is out on their final hot lap the television is watching the start
finish line. BORING! And I'm still tired of the race-fuel qualifying, even
if they do get to burn it off. It's all so stupid, really.


Qualifying was changed because of the Schumacher/Ferrari domination.
There
was really nothing wrong with the 12 total laps/one hour format. I found
the
one lap qualifying boring.




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Default Re: Qualifying is still crap - 05-16-2007 , 01:41 PM




"Von Fourche" <Khonakong (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

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"just bob" <kilbyfan@aoldotcom> wrote in message
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I still think the qualifying is crap. The first two sessions are OK but
the last session should be run single car, one lap. The problem is, when
everyone is out on their final hot lap the television is watching the
start finish line. BORING! And I'm still tired of the race-fuel
qualifying, even if they do get to burn it off. It's all so stupid,
really.



Qualifying was changed because of the Schumacher/Ferrari domination.
There
was really nothing wrong with the 12 total laps/one hour format. I found
the
one lap qualifying boring.
What I liked about the one lap.... is seeing the entire lap!




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Default Re: Qualifying is still crap - 05-16-2007 , 01:47 PM




"just bob" <kilbyfan@aoldotcom> wrote

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"Paul-B" <paul (AT) rasf1 (DOT) net> wrote in message
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Bigbird wrote:

just bob wrote:

I still think the qualifying is crap. The first two sessions are OK
but the last session should be run single car, one lap. The problem
is, when everyone is out on their final hot lap the television is
watching the start finish line. BORING! And I'm still tired of the
race-fuel qualifying, even if they do get to burn it off. It's all
so stupid, really.

The later half of Q3 is almost as exciting as qualifying ever was at
it's best, add back Q1 and Q2 and, while we don't get the single all
out low fuel lap, I reckon this is the one aspect of todays F1 that
they have got right.

Q1 and Q2 are fine as they are, but watching a line of F1 cars circling
to burn off fuel is a drag.

I agreed Q1 and Q2 are fine.

But what about none of the final hot laps being shown - all we get is a
shot
of the start finish line as the cars cross?

It's crap.



my TV must get a different broadcast than yours. i see them showing a car
at different places when its running for time in every segment




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Default Re: Qualifying is still crap - 05-16-2007 , 01:57 PM




"Ray O'Hara" <mary.palmucci (AT) rcn (DOT) com> wrote

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"just bob" <kilbyfan@aoldotcom> wrote in message
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"Paul-B" <paul (AT) rasf1 (DOT) net> wrote in message
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Bigbird wrote:

just bob wrote:

I still think the qualifying is crap. The first two sessions are OK
but the last session should be run single car, one lap. The problem
is, when everyone is out on their final hot lap the television is
watching the start finish line. BORING! And I'm still tired of the
race-fuel qualifying, even if they do get to burn it off. It's all
so stupid, really.

The later half of Q3 is almost as exciting as qualifying ever was at
it's best, add back Q1 and Q2 and, while we don't get the single all
out low fuel lap, I reckon this is the one aspect of todays F1 that
they have got right.

Q1 and Q2 are fine as they are, but watching a line of F1 cars circling
to burn off fuel is a drag.

I agreed Q1 and Q2 are fine.

But what about none of the final hot laps being shown - all we get is a
shot
of the start finish line as the cars cross?

It's crap.




my TV must get a different broadcast than yours. i see them showing a car
at different places when its running for time in every segment

I do not have access to the video now but how I remember the final minute of
qualifying is they followed one car around the track on his last lap up to
the start/finish and then stayed on that view until the next four cars cross
the line. How exciting! Not. Did you get to see Massa's lap? No.




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Default Re: Qualifying is still crap - 05-16-2007 , 05:05 PM




"Bigbird" <bigbird.usenet (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

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just bob wrote:


"Ray O'Hara" <mary.palmucci (AT) rcn (DOT) com> wrote in message
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"just bob" <kilbyfan@aoldotcom> wrote in message
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Bigbird wrote:

just bob wrote:

I still think the qualifying is crap. The first two sessions
are OK >>>> > but the last session should be run single car, one lap.
The problem >>>> > is, when everyone is out on their final hot lap
the television is >>>> > watching the start finish line. BORING! And
I'm still tired of the >>>> > race-fuel qualifying, even if they do
get to burn it off. It's all >>>> > so stupid, really.

The later half of Q3 is almost as exciting as qualifying ever
was at >>>> it's best, add back Q1 and Q2 and, while we don't get the
single all >>>> out low fuel lap, I reckon this is the one aspect of
todays F1 that >>>> they have got right.

Q1 and Q2 are fine as they are, but watching a line of F1 cars
circling >>> to burn off fuel is a drag.

I agreed Q1 and Q2 are fine.

But what about none of the final hot laps being shown - all we
get is a
shot
of the start finish line as the cars cross?

It's crap.




my TV must get a different broadcast than yours. i see them showing
a car at different places when its running for time in every segment


I do not have access to the video now but how I remember the final
minute of qualifying is they followed one car around the track on his
last lap up to the start/finish and then stayed on that view until
the next four cars cross the line. How exciting! Not. Did you get to
see Massa's lap? No.

Why would they choose follow Massa?
Because that is who won the pole. You would think most people would want to
see the whole lap of the fastest man on the day, and not just him crossing
the timing line.




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Default Re: Qualifying is still crap - 05-16-2007 , 05:26 PM




"Bigbird" <bigbird.usenet (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

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just bob wrote:


"Paul-B" <paul (AT) rasf1 (DOT) net> wrote in message
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Bigbird wrote:

just bob wrote:

I still think the qualifying is crap. The first two sessions are
OK >>> but the last session should be run single car, one lap. The
problem >>> is, when everyone is out on their final hot lap the
television is >>> watching the start finish line. BORING! And I'm
still tired of the >>> race-fuel qualifying, even if they do get to
burn it off. It's all >>> so stupid, really.

The later half of Q3 is almost as exciting as qualifying ever was
at it's best, add back Q1 and Q2 and, while we don't get the
single all out low fuel lap, I reckon this is the one aspect of
todays F1 that they have got right.

Q1 and Q2 are fine as they are, but watching a line of F1 cars
circling to burn off fuel is a drag.

I agreed Q1 and Q2 are fine.

But what about none of the final hot laps being shown - all we get is
a shot of the start finish line as the cars cross?

It's crap.

Race fuel qualifying is the only that makes sense, so without changing
that aspect, your suggestions are?
Re: Fuel, I guess I'm the only one who wants to see the cars on running on
fumes and thus at the limit, running out of gas on the cool down lap and all
that stuff we used to have.

I don't know how to change it to see more fast laps other than do
single-car. Not too many years ago you would see an hour of qual and chances
were, barring sudden rain or track drying, over that hour you would see a
lot of drivers on their fastest laps. The problem now is the current scheme
has everyone doing their fastest lap in the final two minutes. I do not
fault the tv production: what else can they show? If in the final minutes
say four cars are potential pole winners and since it is impossible to
follow all of them, the producer follows the first car all the way to the
line and then stays on that shot for the other three cars. If the producer
decides to break tradition and show car #3, and you miss car #2 taking the
pole the viewers will be pissed. So I guess we're stuck with watching the
finish line. BORING!




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