It seems all but certain that Flavio was instrumental in fixing the result
of the Singapore race by engineering a crash at the right moment.

Percentages are that this was not a one time thing but happened in the past
as well. Any speculation or evidence of this kind of activity in past races?

Brian Sullivan wrote:
Attempted fixing of the results in qualifying at Monaco in 2006?

Not strictly race fixing, but still fixing official results of one sort.

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forty

"There's a very fine line between not listening, and not caring. I like
to think that I walk that line every day of my life."

forty <cforteR3M0V3 (AT) THISgmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Use of a deliberate crash to determine the outcome of a race :

- Suzuka 1989 : Prost on Senna
- Suzuka 1990 : Senna on Prost
- Adelaide 1994 : Schumacher on Hill
- Jerez 1997 : Schumacher on Villeneuve

Collusion between different teams to affect the outcome of a race :

- Jerez 1997 : Sauber/Ferrari & McLaren/Williams

There may be other examples. These are the ones that immediately spring
to mind.
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ric

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Brian Sullivan wrote:

Whatever, I'm loving it! As one who gets fed-up with the know-nothings
here who are happy to point the finger at almost every Brit who
cocks-up it's a delight to see an Italian team-boss of a French team
with a Spanish driver being righty shopped by a Brazilian!

BTW, if you go to Nelsinho's website at http://www.npiquet.com/ you
might be lucky enough to notice the

"Countdown to next race - Days 00 Hours 00 Minutes 00 Seconds 00... "

LOLOL!

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Paul-B

"ric zito" <address (AT) in (DOT) sig> wrote


I was wondering about those specifically involving Briatore.

ric zito escribió:
Austria 2002 also comes to mind.

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Shevek

On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:42:53 +0200, address (AT) in (DOT) sig (ric zito) wrote:

"Deliberate crash" indeed. I'm sure there are thousands of them
historically across all Formulae, but instances of a driver being
ordered to crash "solo" to determine the outcome of a race..?

On Sep 17, 3:02*pm, mower man <nos... (AT) f2s (DOT) com> wrote:
Senna eventually admitted he took out Prost deliberately in 1990 in an
interview (no link).

Lenny

Lenny wrote:
Yes, I do know that. He stated that if a "certain person" was in front
going into turn one, he would not be responsible for .... (or something
of the sort.)

But his argument was that he couldn't choose the "clean" side of the
grid, no?

Whatever, no driver since has give me as much pleasure to watch.

"Senna is a genius," Martin Brundle said. "I define genius as just the
right side of imbalance. He is so highly developed to the point that
he's almost over the edge. It's a close call."

Close calls are great to watch.

Don't start me on Jimmy Clark, a very different genius who apparently
had no idea how he did it! Happy days. :-)

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Chris

I am not young enough to know everything.
Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900)

One thing is immediately apparent : the cars were infinitely better
looking back then, weren't they?

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