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Races in Abu Dhabi from 2009, confirmed
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Re: Races in Abu Dhabi from 2009, confirmed -
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Phil Newnham escribió: Anand Nene wrote: Kareeban Thu, 08 Feb 2007 at 17:36 GMT baje, Benoit De Groote ne likha: Now if they want to get rid of European races, feel free to take Hungaroring, Magny-Cours, Catalunya. At the risk of being flamed, apart from the above 3, I wouldn't really mind if San Marino, Shanghai and Fuji are missing too in the season calendar. I don't think you'll get flamed for any of those. Is Fuji so bad? I understand that is inferior to Suzuka, but since I haven't seen any race there, I really don't know. Why does it deserve to be axed? |
Suzuka. A HUGE front straight and then a Tilke-technical back section
(pun intended? maybe...) will make for something fairly similar to the
current USGP: one place to pass with the rest of the circuit being
boring as all hell.
Also, while I cannot find the article I'm thinking of, I remember some
scathing comments about the infrastructure (or lack of it) leading to
the circuit. The logistics for the teams could be a nightmare.
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forty
“To embrace an extreme, one must first let go of reason.”
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Is Fuji so bad? I understand that is inferior to Suzuka, but since I haven't seen any race there, I really don't know. Why does it deserve to be axed? |
history, certainly none in its present form or in recent years. And it's
been Tilke'd which is a recipe for boring race tracks, more often than
not. I still mourn the loss of Hockenheim - to me it never mattered that
there wasn't much overtaking, because the combination of high speed
running through the forest and tiptoeing through the stadium was just so
exciting to watch, especially in the rain. If Fuji can produce something
like that, then it will prove that it has character, but no one seems
particularly excited about it.
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Phil
http://www.usefilm.com/photographer/31307.html
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Shevek wrote: Phil Newnham escribió: Anand Nene wrote: Kareeban Thu, 08 Feb 2007 at 17:36 GMT baje, Benoit De Groote ne likha: Now if they want to get rid of European races, feel free to take Hungaroring, Magny-Cours, Catalunya. At the risk of being flamed, apart from the above 3, I wouldn't really mind if San Marino, Shanghai and Fuji are missing too in the season calendar. I don't think you'll get flamed for any of those. Is Fuji so bad? I understand that is inferior to Suzuka, but since I haven't seen any race there, I really don't know. Why does it deserve to be axed? I don't know how bad it will be, but the layout is pathetic compared to Suzuka. A HUGE front straight and then a Tilke-technical back section (pun intended? maybe...) will make for something fairly similar to the current USGP: one place to pass with the rest of the circuit being boring as all hell. |
be realistic, was an enormously fast long right-hander with no runoff
at all. Has he meddled with all the corners?
Also, while the Indy track is bad, I think the idea behind is correct.
A racetrack should have a combination of a very long straight and a
series of slower corners, so that the teams have to compromise on the
setup of the car, and hopefully giving a greater chance of overtaking.
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Also, while I cannot find the article I'm thinking of, I remember some scathing comments about the infrastructure (or lack of it) leading to the circuit. The logistics for the teams could be a nightmare. |
- Jones
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Shevek wrote: Is Fuji so bad? I understand that is inferior to Suzuka, but since I haven't seen any race there, I really don't know. Why does it deserve to be axed? Even if there's nothing wrong with it, it hasn't much in the way of F1 history, certainly none in its present form or in recent years. |
bit tough to make history when you're not part of the championship
season.
- Jones
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Kareeban Thu, 08 Feb 2007 at 17:36 GMT baje, Benoit De Groote ne likha: Now if they want to get rid of European races, feel free to take Hungaroring, Magny-Cours, Catalunya. At the risk of being flamed, apart from the above 3, I wouldn't really mind if San Marino, Shanghai and Fuji are missing too in the season calendar. |
Hungaroring for most boring track of the season if you ask me. I
don't mind Magny-Cours, bellow average but not the bottom of the pack.
Catalunya is normally in the same boat, though it definitely gets my
vote for most boring RACE of the 2006 season.
As for Shanghai, it's a bit odd, that's for sure, but at least it's
something a tiny bit different. Besides, cancelling the GP of China
is absolutely NOT an option! I am quite certain that that race is BY
FAR the most profitable for the teams. Fuji is unknown to me, the
last time they raced there was before my F1 days.
So, my vote for races to dump, in the following order:
1. Imola
2. Hungaroring
3. Catalunya
Ohh, just checked the scheduled, looks like Imola's already got the
cut! Guess that moves Hungaroring to the top of the chopping block.
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Tony Hill
hilla <underscore> 20 <at> yahoo <dot> ca
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On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 09:25:04 +0000 (UTC), Anand Nene anandnNOSPAM (AT) gmx (DOT) net> wrote: Kareeban Thu, 08 Feb 2007 at 17:36 GMT baje, Benoit De Groote ne likha: Now if they want to get rid of European races, feel free to take Hungaroring, Magny-Cours, Catalunya. At the risk of being flamed, apart from the above 3, I wouldn't really mind if San Marino, Shanghai and Fuji are missing too in the season calendar. I'll second San Marino. It's a tight fight between Imola and Hungaroring for most boring track of the season if you ask me. I don't mind Magny-Cours, bellow average but not the bottom of the pack. Catalunya is normally in the same boat, though it definitely gets my vote for most boring RACE of the 2006 season. As for Shanghai, it's a bit odd, that's for sure, but at least it's something a tiny bit different. Besides, cancelling the GP of China is absolutely NOT an option! I am quite certain that that race is BY FAR the most profitable for the teams. Fuji is unknown to me, the last time they raced there was before my F1 days. So, my vote for races to dump, in the following order: 1. Imola 2. Hungaroring 3. Catalunya Ohh, just checked the scheduled, looks like Imola's already got the cut! Guess that moves Hungaroring to the top of the chopping block. |
(Moanco?).
I don't mind Imola too much, apart from the memories.
I also know nothing of Fuji, but I sure as hell will miss Suzuka.
Dave
PS: Just realised my typo in the first sentence, but decided to let it
stand!
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In article <0q2at2tl8aqn3uijdhah6mpgkr2vghpjj5 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, hilla_nospam_20 @yahoo.com says... On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 09:25:04 +0000 (UTC), Anand Nene anandnNOSPAM (AT) gmx (DOT) net> wrote: Kareeban Thu, 08 Feb 2007 at 17:36 GMT baje, Benoit De Groote ne likha: Now if they want to get rid of European races, feel free to take Hungaroring, Magny-Cours, Catalunya. At the risk of being flamed, apart from the above 3, I wouldn't really mind if San Marino, Shanghai and Fuji are missing too in the season calendar. I'll second San Marino. It's a tight fight between Imola and Hungaroring for most boring track of the season if you ask me. I don't mind Magny-Cours, bellow average but not the bottom of the pack. Catalunya is normally in the same boat, though it definitely gets my vote for most boring RACE of the 2006 season. As for Shanghai, it's a bit odd, that's for sure, but at least it's something a tiny bit different. Besides, cancelling the GP of China is absolutely NOT an option! I am quite certain that that race is BY FAR the most profitable for the teams. Fuji is unknown to me, the last time they raced there was before my F1 days. So, my vote for races to dump, in the following order: 1. Imola 2. Hungaroring 3. Catalunya Ohh, just checked the scheduled, looks like Imola's already got the cut! Guess that moves Hungaroring to the top of the chopping block. Without doubt, the Hungaroring is the most boring race of the season (Moanco?). I don't mind Imola too much, apart from the memories. I also know nothing of Fuji, but I sure as hell will miss Suzuka. Dave PS: Just realised my typo in the first sentence, but decided to let it stand! Chuffed that Spa is back, too, btw |
Dave
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car starting from the back, we know what that brings
Have you ever seen Monaco from an onboard view? It's awesome.
BTW, welcome back!
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Your'er so cheap, I bet you look under the bed in the morning to see
if you lost any sleep.
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On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 at 04:40 GMT, David Melville wrote: (Moanco?). Nope. Monaco is fun + very technical. And should there be a top car starting from the back, we know what that brings Have you ever seen Monaco from an onboard view? It's awesome. |
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Golf and sex are about the only things you can enjoy without
being good at.
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On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 at 04:40 GMT, David Melville wrote: (Moanco?). Nope. Monaco is fun + very technical. And should there be a top car starting from the back, we know what that brings Have you ever seen Monaco from an onboard view? It's awesome. BTW, welcome back! I agree with what you say, but it can be a very boring "race". |
Oh, and thankyou!
Damn dial-up crap.
Dave
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