Raikkonen says McLaren the only option

#1

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79831

"Toyota has not even been discussed," Raikkonen told Finnish television
station MTV3. "If I want to drive [F1] cars, then McLaren in the only
option. I should know the situation in the next few days."

So the possibility is not yet closed.

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CatharticF1

"What you thought was freedom is just greed."

#2

CatharticF1 wrote:

Quote:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79831

"Toyota has not even been discussed," Raikkonen told Finnish
television station MTV3. "If I want to drive [F1] cars, then McLaren
in the only option. I should know the situation in the next few days."

So the possibility is not yet closed.

Maybe he just wants to string McL out long enough that they dont have much
choice but to keep his countryman. Not that I really think Kimi would care
enough personally to do that, but some of his home country sponsors might.

--
Chad

#3

I'm told the list of supposed driver salaries was passed around in Aba
Dubhi, apparently most just laughed at it. My mate asked a bloke who
has a good knowledge of most things F1. He laughed and said the only
certain thing is that KR is the highest earner, apart from that any
list is bull****.

That brought about a discussion about Kimi going to McLaren. He was
amused that McLaren say money is the problem when they won't be paying
any, a sponsor is funding the move. He reckons the problem is that KR
wants certain clauses in the contract ensuring certain rights which
McLaren will not concede, yet. In other words KR will not be a number
two driver.

But what about team support, blokes like FA seem to need emotional as
well as physical support, will the lack of that effect KR?, answer
"No". But won't the fact that McLarens focus is totally on LH effect
him?, answer "No ... he'll like that".

That brought about a discussion about KR's time at Ferrari The bloke
accepts that KR is the fastest driver in F1. So why has FM pretty much
matched KR? Answer, "That says a lot for FM ... OK the car does seem
to suit FM and not KR but ..." He added that FM was very consistant,
hard working, reliable, etc. So is KR inconsistent? "I wouldn't say
inconsistent, just not reliable".

My mate then asked him if he thought McLaren would sign KR? After the
obligatory "How the **** would I know" the bloke went on to say he
would think the they would make a great pairing and saw no problems
with giving them equal treatment as long as LH felt he had the
emotional support of the team. I then suggested "What about his dummy
spit in Hungry, could that happen again?" answer "Ron has improved his
arse wiping since then".

That last comment amused me but I should explain it as you don't know
the bloke (I do I've met him) and may take offense. This bloke is
arrogant, dry and very bloody intelligent... We all have our buttons,
red for angry, blue for sad, green for happy. If you know a bloke well
enough you can push the right button when needed, we all do it. He was
saying Ron now knows the right button, it was not a derogatory
statement about Ron or Lewis, just his dry way of expressing it.

Anyway, I thought it interesting enough to post.

beers,
build

#4

build <buildy (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in news:0e1687d0-2275-4ab5-9e9d-
0bc3e0967d5c (AT) q40g2000prh (DOT) googlegroups.com:

Quote:

That brought about a discussion about Kimi going to McLaren. He was
amused that McLaren say money is the problem when they won't be paying
any, a sponsor is funding the move. He reckons the problem is that KR
wants certain clauses in the contract ensuring certain rights which
McLaren will not concede, yet. In other words KR will not be a number
two driver.

I am shocked at the prospect that Lewis may not accept a driver of equal
status. Could the same people who viewed this as such a sin for that
other German driver suddenly find it's of no significance anymore?

Quote:

But what about team support, blokes like FA seem to need emotional as
well as physical support, will the lack of that effect KR?, answer
"No". But won't the fact that McLarens focus is totally on LH effect
him?, answer "No ... he'll like that".

This is curious - just what does he need / doesn't like that meant he
wasn't Kimi (TM) most of the time at Ferrari?

Quote:

That brought about a discussion about KR's time at Ferrari The bloke
accepts that KR is the fastest driver in F1. So why has FM pretty much
matched KR? Answer, "That says a lot for FM ... OK the car does seem
to suit FM and not KR but ..." He added that FM was very consistant,
hard working, reliable, etc. So is KR inconsistent? "I wouldn't say
inconsistent, just not reliable".

Well that Massa has improved his game is good to know, and was visible
during his time with MS too. But I don't accept unreliable - how does
unreliable explain slower than you'd expect?

Quote:

My mate then asked him if he thought McLaren would sign KR? After the
obligatory "How the **** would I know" the bloke went on to say he
would think the they would make a great pairing and saw no problems
with giving them equal treatment as long as LH felt he had the
emotional support of the team. I then suggested "What about his dummy
spit in Hungry, could that happen again?" answer "Ron has improved his
arse wiping since then".

That last comment amused me but I should explain it as you don't know
the bloke (I do I've met him) and may take offense. This bloke is
arrogant, dry and very bloody intelligent... We all have our buttons,
red for angry, blue for sad, green for happy. If you know a bloke well
enough you can push the right button when needed, we all do it. He was
saying Ron now knows the right button, it was not a derogatory
statement about Ron or Lewis, just his dry way of expressing it.

I still don't get it though - what does it imply Ron would have done
differently in Hungary?

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CatharticF1

"What you thought was freedom is just greed."

#5

In message <Xns9CB98A81894D5rasf1postergmailcom (AT) 203 (DOT) 26.24.228>,
CatharticF1 <rasf1poster (AT) gmail (DOT) com> writes

Quote:

build <buildy (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in news:0e1687d0-2275-4ab5-9e9d-
0bc3e0967d5c (AT) q40g2000prh (DOT) googlegroups.com:

That brought about a discussion about Kimi going to McLaren. He was
amused that McLaren say money is the problem when they won't be paying
any, a sponsor is funding the move. He reckons the problem is that KR
wants certain clauses in the contract ensuring certain rights which
McLaren will not concede, yet. In other words KR will not be a number
two driver.

I am shocked at the prospect that Lewis may not accept a driver of equal
status.

Could you just point out the bit of the original post that states that

Lewis would not accept a driver of equal status?

Stop making it up!

--
Paul Giverin

My photos:- www.pbase.com/vendee

#6

On 11/04/09 08:39, peter wrote:

Quote:

Paul Giverin <paul (AT) giverin (DOT) co.uk> writes
CatharticF1 <rasf1poster (AT) gmail (DOT) com> writes
build <buildy (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in news:0e1687d0-2275-4ab5-9e9d-
He reckons the problem is that KR
wants certain clauses in the contract ensuring certain rights which
McLaren will not concede, yet. In other words KR will not be a number
two driver.

I am shocked at the prospect that Lewis may not accept a driver of equal
status.

Could you just point out the bit of the original post that states that
Lewis would not accept a driver of equal status?
Stop making it up!

LOL indeeed...why does
"KR wants certain clauses in the contract ensuring certain rights which
McLaren will not concede "
equate to LH not being prepared to accept a driver of equal status
rather than KR wanting No. 1 status?

"In other words KR will not be a number two driver."
Oh I see..its some other fool making it up as he goes along....as you were.
& that could easily be KR wants no 1 status. this is all just guess work

without any access to any of the facts
time will tell.

#7

On Nov 4, 3:36*am, CatharticF1 <rasf1pos... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:

build <bui... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in news:0e1687d0-2275-4ab5-9e9d-
0bc3e0967... (AT) q40g2000prh (DOT) googlegroups.com:

That brought about a discussion about Kimi going to McLaren. He was
amused that McLaren say money is the problem when they won't be paying
any, a sponsor is funding the move. He reckons the problem is that KR
wants certain clauses in the contract ensuring certain rights which
McLaren will not concede, yet. In other words KR will not be a number
two driver.

I am shocked at the prospect that Lewis may not accept a driver of equal
status. Could the same people who viewed this as such a sin for that
other German driver suddenly find it's of no significance anymore?

Oh feign another shock why don't you. Just make it up aas you see it
in your own little world Brendan.

#8

CatharticF1 wrote:

Quote:

build <buildy (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in news:0e1687d0-2275-4ab5-9e9d-
0bc3e0967d5c (AT) q40g2000prh (DOT) googlegroups.com:

That brought about a discussion about Kimi going to McLaren. He was
amused that McLaren say money is the problem when they won't be
paying any, a sponsor is funding the move. He reckons the problem
is that KR wants certain clauses in the contract ensuring certain
rights which McLaren will not concede, yet. In other words KR will
not be a number two driver.

I am shocked at the prospect that Lewis may not accept a driver of
equal status. Could the same people who viewed this as such a sin for
that other German driver suddenly find it's of no significance
anymore?

Excuse me. What besides your overt prejudice are you basing your
comments on.

You appear to be accepting rumour or even fabrication as fact because
it suits you.

Nothing new in that.

The sin with reference to Mickey was that you could never accept it.
I'm not sure the mountain is tall enough yet to overcome your prejudice.

You claim to be good at reading people. How do you think you're doing
with 'build'?

--
Bigbird
#

#9

On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:16:22 +0000, peter
<scoular (AT) blackhole (DOT) do-not-spam.me.uk> wrote:

Quote:

Frank Adam <fajp (AT) notthis (DOT) optushome.com.au> writes
On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:39:01 +0000, peter
"KR wants certain clauses in the contract ensuring certain rights which
McLaren will not concede "
equate to LH not being prepared to accept a driver of equal status
rather than KR wanting No. 1 status?

"In other words KR will not be a number two driver."
Oh I see..its some other fool making it up as he goes along....as you
were.

Well, and as quoted, McLaren won't concede. This was mentioned on our
F1 telecast too by our own gurus so it is true(perhaps<g>).
Our guys certainly stated it differently, in that they said that
McLaren are pulling their feet on allowing an equal status in the team
for Kimi.

I would like to think that McLaren will not allow either driver to have
a contracted No 1 driver status at the start of the season....whether
its Kimi or LH.
OTOH as the season progresses then if one driver does a better job than
the other with the car then it makes sense to give him first crack at
updated parts etc.

My speculation is waaaaay better than yours, so just shut up. ;-)

--

Regards, Frank

#10

In message <Xns9CB98A81894D5rasf1postergmailcom (AT) 203 (DOT) 26.24.228>,
CatharticF1 <rasf1poster (AT) gmail (DOT) com> writes

Quote:

build <buildy (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in news:0e1687d0-2275-4ab5-9e9d-
0bc3e0967d5c (AT) q40g2000prh (DOT) googlegroups.com:

That brought about a discussion about Kimi going to McLaren. He was
amused that McLaren say money is the problem when they won't be paying
any, a sponsor is funding the move. He reckons the problem is that KR
wants certain clauses in the contract ensuring certain rights which
McLaren will not concede, yet. In other words KR will not be a number
two driver.

I am shocked at the prospect that Lewis may not accept a driver of equal
status.

And I am anything but shocked that you could invent such a lie from the
above statement. It is entirely par for the course for you.
--
Richard Miller