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Raikkonen to take a sabbatical in 2010
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Re: Raikkonen to take a sabbatical in 2010 -
11-21-2009
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We were both wrong on a recount try these full year results, I only compared the races where Heidfeld raced. Race * *MW qual MW race NH qual NH race Australian * * * 3* * * 4 * * * 7 * * * ret Hungarian * * * 16* * * 7 * * * 12 * * *6* Count the *. I get 10-4, 3-3. |
actually qualified better.
You also have Webber's race position inAustralia wrong, but it doesn't affect the stats.
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Mind you race results count for little due to reliability, you need to evaluate the race performances, do that and MW wins hands down despite engine differences. |
slightly better average finishing position on races he finished, if
you don't count German GP, which he finished, but wasn't classified.
I could watch all the 2005 races to evaluate their performances race
by race, the positions they retired from, the reasons for retirements
and otherwise bad performances, but I don't think it's worth it to go
to that much detail just for the sake of an argument.
Let's just agree to disagree?
-Webs-
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build wrote: We were both wrong on a recount try these full year results, I only compared the races where Heidfeld raced. Race * *MW qual MW race NH qual NH race Australian * * * 3* * * 4 * * * 7 * * * ret Hungarian * * * 16* * * 7 * * * 12 * * *6* Count the *. I get 10-4, 3-3. You only get 10-4 because you count Hungarian GP to Webber, while Nick actually qualified better. You also have Webber's race position inAustralia wrong, but it doesn't affect the stats. Mind you race results count for little due to reliability, you need to evaluate the race performances, do that and MW wins hands down despite engine differences. Yet Nick had both better points and more podiums. Webber does have a slightly better average finishing position on races he finished, if you don't count German GP, which he finished, but wasn't classified. I could watch all the 2005 races to evaluate their performances race by race, the positions they retired from, the reasons for retirements and otherwise bad performances, but I don't think it's worth it to go to that much detail just for the sake of an argument. Let's just agree to disagree? -Webs- |
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after he wins next years WDC you can eat your hat :-)
beers,
build
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Cool, but Webbers is better ;-) and after he wins next years WDC you can eat your hat :-) |
relic from the only time I was performing on an opera stage.
Iwon't make silly promises to eat it.
I won't make predictions about next years results either. Everything
is way too open for that.
-Webs-
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build wrote: Cool, but Webbers is better ;-) and after he wins next years WDC you can eat your hat :-) I treasure my hat ("the hat", my only hat worth mentioning), it's a relic from the only time I was performing on an opera stage. Iwon't make silly promises to eat it. I won't make predictions about next years results either. Everything is way too open for that. -Webs- |
planning to eat, I'll leave that to a certain young lady.
If Nick was an Aussie you would have greater faith ;-)
beers,
build
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If Nick was an Aussie you would have greater faith ;-) |
I don't rate drivers bytheir nationality, not even my fellow Finns.
I had high hopes for Mark when he entered F1. He hasn't quite lived up
to my expectations, though. He's fast, but his performances are too
often hampered by all kinds of incidents. A bit too often to be taken
as just bad luck. I was happy that he finally got his chance and got
it right this year. He deserved it.
Still, I rate Heidfeld equally fast, and a bit more consistent. I've
always liked consistent more than the make or brake kind.
-Webs-
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build wrote: If Nick was an Aussie you would have greater faith ;-) My faith to Nick is quite good already. I don't rate drivers bytheir nationality, not even my fellow Finns. I had high hopes for Mark when he entered F1. He hasn't quite lived up to my expectations, though. He's fast, but his performances are too often hampered by all kinds of incidents. A bit too often to be taken as just bad luck. I was happy that he finally got his chance and got it right this year. He deserved it. |
I hope that Build is right but suspect Mark will continue his bad luck
reputation, as as you say, there is too much of it to bank on it just
dissapearing altogether next year.
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Chad
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