Re: F1 unveils cost-cutting blueprint

#31

"Phil Carmody" <thefatphil_demunged (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote

Quote:

Paul Ian Harman <dev-null (AT) harman-on-the (DOT) net> writes:
Phil Carmody wrote:
I think you'll regret saying that. Refuelling has been turned into
and evil all-ruining spectre far greater than it really is. I don't
expect there to be significantly more overtaking without refuelling
than there was with it,
for instance.

I might well regret it. However, refuelling has meant mandatory pit
stops of about 10 seconds each, and teams have planned their
strategies around overtaking in the pits. With tyre-only stops, which
back in the day were down to 4 seconds, I don't think the same
strategy would work -
so if you want to overtake, you have to do it on the track.

Surely?

Have it your way. Being able to overtake only on the track is
better than being able to overtake on the track and in the
pits. We know there's far too much overtaking already in the
sport, so had better remove one of the two techniques.

Phil

Except we are getting a car spec that is supposed to promote overtaking ont
he track. Which I think is where every one wants it. On top of that banning
the fuel stops means that there is a possibility that one car will handle
well heavy, but another might be better light. Again, promoting the
possibility of overtaking on the track.

Even so, I remember back in the day that the tyre only stops were just as
vulnerable to strategy as the fuel and tyre stop. Indeed the length of stop
is not the entire story. It's more about the in and out laps, and whether
the overtaking car is stuck behind the car in front. If it is, it can still
bang in fast laps, pit and come out in front. So, don't think we would lose
the possibility of using the pit stops for overtaking.

Thinking about it, I don't think it will change a thing about the race. But
what we do get is the removal of a pointless danger to the pit crews, and an
end to this silly business of having cars on different fuel loads at the
start. (Which I assume will mean a change to qually, which should improve
that too)

AC

#32

"Paul Ian Harman" <dev-null (AT) harman-on-the (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:

Bigbird wrote:
Well pit stops won't be predetermined and tyre management will be key,
obviously.

GP2 should give a few hints as to how things work out.

What I'd hate is for A1GP-style mandatory pit-stops. I'd actually like a
return to the whole-race-tyre regulations. Just because Bridgestone failed
to make tyres that would last properly, or some cars couldn't manage their
tyres effectively, didn't mean the rule was flawed. I'd like a
re-introduction of the strategy play where you go hard and wear out your
tyres and stop, or go careful and preserve them and don't stop.

Basically I want the cars to stay on the track and not pit other than for
'emergencies'.

Paul

Not sure how it would work out in practice but I like the idea of a hard
tire that can last a race and a soft that lasts for just over half a race,
with a performance differential that is roughly the same as a pit stop.

AC

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