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Default Re: Ferrari's start at Malaysia - 04-08-2007 , 08:11 PM






In article <iq6i131ctb63c2ngffghudpaq4i0apsqfm (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>,
fajp (AT) notthis (DOT) optushome.com.au says...
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On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 02:08:39 +1000, David Melville
dmelville10 (AT) SPAMTRAP_optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote:

In article <4n1i13tsbbqmp7pna0948rtcpi5ohq4u1u (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>,
fajp (AT) notthis (DOT) optushome.com.au says...
On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 16:33:03 +0200, RzR <2r4z0r2 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

get over the fact that the days of intentionally punting the faster
drivers are over

WTF...oh you're on a soapbox. What a bore.
"cry more noob"

You have me at a loss your rant is absolutely meaningless and out of place.

Dunno Bird, i understood what he meant perfectly. #1 driver of a red
car, close to another and yet, no casualties. That's a new thing. ;-p

in your weakass mind maybe ...the thing is...as soon as hamilton
breaked hard the second time and turned the corner, and massa flew to
the grass, the initial thought was "he baited him", which turned out to
be true later, so it was hamilton that caused massa to think that there
was an oportunity to overtake, and there really wasnt...to me it looks
like superb move by hamilton, just like it was at start, and i can just
laugh at the sad explanations that ferrari boys LET him do
anything...better luck next race

He nipped under Kimi and that was ok, but Massa he should have never
passed. Massa screwed up royally and that is what gave Hamilton the
position. Even after that, LH was slower than Massa, it's just that
again and again, Massa screwed up.

I disagree, Frank. I think LH was playing the team game all the way,
slowing up the red boys.

Massa was lost in Alonso and didn't notice LH creeping up at his side.
That should not have happened and once Massa got in front, i don't
think LH would have been able to keep Kimi behind or challenge Massa
again. At least not then.

He did match Alonso's times later on, and, let's not forget, record the
fastest race lap.

Kimi could do bugger all so close
behind two cars fighting for a position and by the time he could have,
LH was up to speed and too hard to handle. The kid is really that
good.

So which is it? Massa screwing up, or Hamilton being "really that good"?

Massa screwed up. There is no doubt. Hamilton is damn good. There is
no doubt.

It just shows that you need a bit of luck. Lewis is turning out to be
all that was predicted. The only thing that bothers me now is that
thing he said about "tricking Massa". We can argue all day about that,
but it looks to me as if LH is starting to play media mind games
already and i really don't like that bullshit..


Why not? If you can beat your opponent before they even get in the car,
all the better for you.

Depends on how you look at it. We all know that motor racing involves
mind games, but i still don't have to like it.

Do you have a problem with Graham Hill's old trick of glancing over to
the driver next to him on the grid, and pointing at his rear wheel as if
something were amiss, right before the green light?

Certainly do. Drive the damn car better than the guy in the other car.


Do you have a problem with sledging in cricket?

Or a well-chosen comment as the ball is coming in for the mark?

Psychology is part of sport, surely?

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Default Re: Ferrari's start at Malaysia - 04-09-2007 , 03:37 AM






David Melville wrote:

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So which is it? Massa screwing up, or Hamilton being "really that
good"?
Both?

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Default Re: Ferrari's start at Malaysia - 04-09-2007 , 03:39 AM



David Melville wrote:

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Do you have a problem with sledging in cricket?
Personally, yes I do. It's unnecessary and I don't like it. It's the
equivalent of someone shouting "bang" when Tiger Woods is about to
tee-off.

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Default Re: Ferrari's start at Malaysia - 04-09-2007 , 03:42 AM



a_Frank wrote:

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By all means this kid is unbeleivable so far, but let's not create
myths about him just yet. ;-)

Sorry, I thought this was rasf1 <g>

Lewis is driving F1 about as he did GP2... he's the next Mansell.

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Default Re: Ferrari's start at Malaysia - 04-09-2007 , 03:44 AM



Luigi Topolino wrote:

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On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 08:47:42 +0100, "BigBird"
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"Ar" <Ar@::1.t> wrote in message
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I am disgusted at the start that both the Ferrari drivers pulled
off
at the start of today's grand prix. Where they asleep or something?
Leaving huge gaps for others to drive into is unforgiveable.

They certainly know how to make the rookie look good.

Never discount the flattering effect of launch control.
LOL!

Exposing your ignorance again?

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Default Re: Ferrari's start at Malaysia - 04-09-2007 , 04:07 AM



On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 10:11:45 +1000, David Melville
<dmelville10 (AT) SPAMTRAP_optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote:

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Do you have a problem with sledging in cricket?

Of course i do.

Quote:
Or a well-chosen comment as the ball is coming in for the mark?

Oh hey, let's not stop there, why not have the wicket keeper tackle
the batsman as the ball is thrown ?

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Psychology is part of sport, surely?

As is punting a driver off the track is part of racing. None of which
has anything to do with "sport" as a definition.

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Default Re: Ferrari's start at Malaysia - 04-09-2007 , 04:11 AM



On 9 Apr 2007 07:42:04 GMT, "Paul-B" <paul (AT) rasf1 (DOT) net> wrote:

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a_Frank wrote:


By all means this kid is unbeleivable so far, but let's not create
myths about him just yet. ;-)


Sorry, I thought this was rasf1 <g

Lewis is driving F1 about as he did GP2... he's the next Mansell.

You're sending him to Champcars and expect him to be too fat to fit
into a seat on his return ? ;-p

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Default Re: Ferrari's start at Malaysia - 04-09-2007 , 04:40 AM



a_Frank wrote:

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On 9 Apr 2007 07:42:04 GMT, "Paul-B" <paul (AT) rasf1 (DOT) net> wrote:

a_Frank wrote:


By all means this kid is unbeleivable so far, but let's not create
myths about him just yet. ;-)


Sorry, I thought this was rasf1 <g

Lewis is driving F1 about as he did GP2... he's the next Mansell.

You're sending him to Champcars and expect him to be too fat to fit
into a seat on his return ? ;-p
Only after he wins his first DWC.

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Default Re: Ferrari's start at Malaysia - 04-09-2007 , 05:45 AM



Paul-B wrote in news:57u92cF2em4j5U1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net:

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a_Frank wrote:


By all means this kid is unbeleivable so far, but let's not create
myths about him just yet. ;-)


Sorry, I thought this was rasf1 <g

Lewis is driving F1 about as he did GP2... he's the next Mansell.
Oh surely he's better than that..

;-p

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Phil Newnham
 
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Default Re: Ferrari's start at Malaysia - 04-09-2007 , 07:26 AM



Luigi Topolino wrote:
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On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 08:47:42 +0100, "BigBird"
bigbird.usenet (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
"Ar" <Ar@::1.t> wrote in message
news:1niebryus7whq.ti931zpcre41.dlg (AT) 40tude (DOT) net...
I am disgusted at the start that both the Ferrari drivers pulled off
at the start of today's grand prix. Where they asleep or something?
Leaving huge gaps for others to drive into is unforgiveable.
They certainly know how to make the rookie look good.

Never discount the flattering effect of launch control.
Did you even watch the start?

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