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Default Re: Formula 1 shaping up to be a disaster - 11-07-2009 , 05:04 AM






Happi Monday wrote
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David Melville wrote:
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:40:57 +1100, Happi Monday <happi (AT) munday (DOT) com> wrote:

Keith wrote:

Given all of the above, how will any of the four new teams get enough
money to race in F1?

Did you see much real racing this year? I mean, I spotted four
over-takes myself!

Then you spent way too much time chopping the mix, and not enough time
watching the races.

You are probably right > I actually spotted TWO over-takes, but since I
did spend a lot of time "chopping", I guessed I missed another two.
Happi
Racing has to adjust. ALMS is adjusting, the've merged the P1 and P2 classes.

And don't forget. In the days of yore, the privateers were substantial, not the
high end manufacturers. But we were laughing at McDonald's stupid remarks
recently, and this time he's hit the nail on the head.

One thing is certain. In all the times I've been a fan of it. When economic
troubles happen, racing is the first to suffer. But how it gets taken care of
is always up to the imagination. In the recession days of the early 1990's,
Bernie allowed anyone and everyone into F1. The 1991 Canadian Grand Prix had
36 or so participants, and pre-qualifying to get the field down to 26.

And that was a "travel" race in North America.


Bernie later decided that there was a $40 million dollar fee to keep the rabble
out.

Hmm. Campos was one of the drivers in those days! For the ones who didn't pre-
qualify! Now he's got a team!

Yay!

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Default Re: Formula 1 shaping up to be a disaster - 11-07-2009 , 07:11 AM






In message
<c05f46d9-5257-4eee-9281-8da764e25fa2 (AT) a39g2000pre (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
build <buildy (AT) gmail (DOT) com> writes
Quote:
On Nov 7, 8:40*am, Happi Monday <ha... (AT) munday (DOT) com> wrote:
Keith wrote:
Given all of the above, how will any of the four new teams get
enough money to
race in F1?

Did you see much real racing this year? I mean, I spotted four
over-takes myself!
Thank you for admitting what your posts already indicate: that you don't
actually watch the races.

Quote:
2009 has been the best year in F1 since the 80's or even earlier.

I thought last year was a bit better, but each of the last three
individually has had more excitement than the previous six had in total.
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Default Re: Formula 1 shaping up to be a disaster - 11-07-2009 , 07:14 AM



Yadda wrote:
Quote:
on 11/6/09 4:45 PM News said the following:
Peter R wrote:
"build" <buildy (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:c05f46d9-5257-4eee-9281-8da764e25fa2 (AT) a39g2000pre (DOT) googlegroups.com...

On Nov 7, 8:40 am, Happi Monday <ha... (AT) munday (DOT) com> wrote:
Keith wrote:
Given all of the above, how will any of the four new teams get
enough money to
race in F1?
Did you see much real racing this year? I mean, I spotted four
over-takes myself!

2009 has been the best year in F1 since the 80's or even earlier.

beers,
build

I guess we were watching different series, F1 has become incredibly
boring and I've been watching since the 50s, only the Dwarf can find
anything to laugh about.


...all the way to the bank.
Looks like a big crash is coming across all asset classes. The tsunami
will be Option ARMs, Commercial Real Estate, and Leveraged Commodity and
Carry Trade. Probably not until early next year as the FED/Treasury
will be propping up the economy on funny money until the moment of
reckoning. I am wondering if money market funds will be safe in this
forthcoming storm...

Time to lay in the water rice and gold...

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Default Re: Formula 1 shaping up to be a disaster - 11-07-2009 , 08:06 AM



on 11/6/09 4:45 PM News said the following:
Quote:
Peter R wrote:
"build" <buildy (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:c05f46d9-5257-4eee-9281-8da764e25fa2 (AT) a39g2000pre (DOT) googlegroups.com...
On Nov 7, 8:40 am, Happi Monday <ha... (AT) munday (DOT) com> wrote:
Keith wrote:
Given all of the above, how will any of the four new teams get
enough money to
race in F1?
Did you see much real racing this year? I mean, I spotted four
over-takes myself!

2009 has been the best year in F1 since the 80's or even earlier.

beers,
build

I guess we were watching different series, F1 has become incredibly
boring and I've been watching since the 50s, only the Dwarf can find
anything to laugh about.


...all the way to the bank.
Looks like a big crash is coming across all asset classes. The tsunami
will be Option ARMs, Commercial Real Estate, and Leveraged Commodity and
Carry Trade. Probably not until early next year as the FED/Treasury
will be propping up the economy on funny money until the moment of
reckoning. I am wondering if money market funds will be safe in this
forthcoming storm...

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Berf
 
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Default Re: Formula 1 shaping up to be a disaster - 11-07-2009 , 09:33 AM



build wrote
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On Nov 7, 8:40*am, Happi Monday <ha... (AT) munday (DOT) com> wrote:
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race in F1?

Did you see much real racing this year? I mean, I spotted four
over-takes myself!

2009 has been the best year in F1 since the 80's or even earlier.

Perhaps, but that doesn't infer that 2010 will be all that good.

And that is what the writer was saying.

His remarks about Brawn's loss of the Honda "subsidy", how they're in search of
a title sponsor in bad economic times (and Virgin payed squat anyway) will be
change agents for them in 2010. I enjoyed the first 5 or so races this
season, and F1 over all has enjoyed close finishes DWC-wise for quite a while
now. Every season ender, or next-to season ender has been right down to the
wire. This year was one of the few in some time that was predictable.

But as McDonald said in his write-up, there is a lot of poison in the air and
the heath of the "once invincible and untouchable" series is shaky.

I'm a huge fan, and I've attended Montreal and other F1 races for 4 decades now,
but I'm not even sure if I fancy hitting Montreal next summer. There's a lot
of other racing that I haven't seen and would like to. An overpriced, under
delivering fiasco, coupled with high priced tickets and hotel rooms and so on,
just doesn't kick it for me as it used to.

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Default Re: Formula 1 shaping up to be a disaster - 11-07-2009 , 12:54 PM



on 11/7/09 6:14 AM News said the following:
Quote:
Yadda wrote:
on 11/6/09 4:45 PM News said the following:
Peter R wrote:
"build" <buildy (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:c05f46d9-5257-4eee-9281-8da764e25fa2 (AT) a39g2000pre (DOT) googlegroups.com...

On Nov 7, 8:40 am, Happi Monday <ha... (AT) munday (DOT) com> wrote:
Keith wrote:
Given all of the above, how will any of the four new teams get
enough money to
race in F1?
Did you see much real racing this year? I mean, I spotted four
over-takes myself!

2009 has been the best year in F1 since the 80's or even earlier.

beers,
build

I guess we were watching different series, F1 has become incredibly
boring and I've been watching since the 50s, only the Dwarf can find
anything to laugh about.


...all the way to the bank.
Looks like a big crash is coming across all asset classes. The tsunami
will be Option ARMs, Commercial Real Estate, and Leveraged Commodity
and Carry Trade. Probably not until early next year as the
FED/Treasury will be propping up the economy on funny money until the
moment of reckoning. I am wondering if money market funds will be safe
in this forthcoming storm...


Time to lay in the water rice and gold...
I am sure they have fixed the gold market too to screw you and me.

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Default Re: Formula 1 shaping up to be a disaster - 11-07-2009 , 01:14 PM



Yadda wrote:
Quote:
on 11/7/09 6:14 AM News said the following:
Yadda wrote:
on 11/6/09 4:45 PM News said the following:
Peter R wrote:
"build" <buildy (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:c05f46d9-5257-4eee-9281-8da764e25fa2 (AT) a39g2000pre (DOT) googlegroups.com...


On Nov 7, 8:40 am, Happi Monday <ha... (AT) munday (DOT) com> wrote:
Keith wrote:
Given all of the above, how will any of the four new teams get
enough money to
race in F1?
Did you see much real racing this year? I mean, I spotted four
over-takes myself!

2009 has been the best year in F1 since the 80's or even earlier.

beers,
build

I guess we were watching different series, F1 has become incredibly
boring and I've been watching since the 50s, only the Dwarf can find
anything to laugh about.


...all the way to the bank.
Looks like a big crash is coming across all asset classes. The tsunami
will be Option ARMs, Commercial Real Estate, and Leveraged Commodity
and Carry Trade. Probably not until early next year as the
FED/Treasury will be propping up the economy on funny money until the
moment of reckoning. I am wondering if money market funds will be safe
in this forthcoming storm...


Time to lay in the water rice and gold...

I am sure they have fixed the gold market too to screw you and me.

There's always rice and water....

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Chad
 
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Default Re: Formula 1 shaping up to be a disaster - 11-07-2009 , 03:16 PM



Yadda wrote:
Quote:
on 11/7/09 6:14 AM News said the following:
Yadda wrote:
on 11/6/09 4:45 PM News said the following:
Peter R wrote:
"build" <buildy (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:c05f46d9-5257-4eee-9281-8da764e25fa2 (AT) a39g2000pre (DOT) googlegroups.com...

On Nov 7, 8:40 am, Happi Monday <ha... (AT) munday (DOT) com> wrote:
Keith wrote:
Given all of the above, how will any of the four new teams get
enough money to
race in F1?
Did you see much real racing this year? I mean, I spotted four
over-takes myself!

2009 has been the best year in F1 since the 80's or even earlier.

beers,
build

I guess we were watching different series, F1 has become
incredibly boring and I've been watching since the 50s, only the
Dwarf can find anything to laugh about.


...all the way to the bank.
Looks like a big crash is coming across all asset classes. The
tsunami will be Option ARMs, Commercial Real Estate, and Leveraged
Commodity and Carry Trade. Probably not until early next year as the
FED/Treasury will be propping up the economy on funny money until
the moment of reckoning. I am wondering if money market funds will
be safe in this forthcoming storm...


Time to lay in the water rice and gold...

I am sure they have fixed the gold market too to screw you and me.
You would have to try hard to have been screwed investing in gold. It's up
45% since November last year.

--
Chad

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Default Re: Formula 1 shaping up to be a disaster - 11-07-2009 , 03:18 PM



Chad wrote:
Quote:
Yadda wrote:
on 11/7/09 6:14 AM News said the following:
Yadda wrote:
on 11/6/09 4:45 PM News said the following:
Peter R wrote:
"build" <buildy (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:c05f46d9-5257-4eee-9281-8da764e25fa2 (AT) a39g2000pre (DOT) googlegroups.com...

On Nov 7, 8:40 am, Happi Monday <ha... (AT) munday (DOT) com> wrote:
Keith wrote:
Given all of the above, how will any of the four new teams get
enough money to
race in F1?
Did you see much real racing this year? I mean, I spotted four
over-takes myself!
2009 has been the best year in F1 since the 80's or even earlier.

beers,
build

I guess we were watching different series, F1 has become
incredibly boring and I've been watching since the 50s, only the
Dwarf can find anything to laugh about.

...all the way to the bank.
Looks like a big crash is coming across all asset classes. The
tsunami will be Option ARMs, Commercial Real Estate, and Leveraged
Commodity and Carry Trade. Probably not until early next year as the
FED/Treasury will be propping up the economy on funny money until
the moment of reckoning. I am wondering if money market funds will
be safe in this forthcoming storm...

Time to lay in the water rice and gold...
I am sure they have fixed the gold market too to screw you and me.

You would have to try hard to have been screwed investing in gold. It's up
45% since November last year.


Want some now? That was the question.

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Chad
 
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Default Re: Formula 1 shaping up to be a disaster - 11-07-2009 , 03:46 PM



Not Me wrote:
Quote:
Chad wrote:
Yadda wrote:
on 11/7/09 6:14 AM News said the following:
Yadda wrote:
on 11/6/09 4:45 PM News said the following:
Peter R wrote:
"build" <buildy (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:c05f46d9-5257-4eee-9281-8da764e25fa2 (AT) a39g2000pre (DOT) googlegroups.com...

On Nov 7, 8:40 am, Happi Monday <ha... (AT) munday (DOT) com> wrote:
Keith wrote:
Given all of the above, how will any of the four new teams get
enough money to
race in F1?
Did you see much real racing this year? I mean, I spotted four
over-takes myself!
2009 has been the best year in F1 since the 80's or even
earlier. beers,
build

I guess we were watching different series, F1 has become
incredibly boring and I've been watching since the 50s, only the
Dwarf can find anything to laugh about.

...all the way to the bank.
Looks like a big crash is coming across all asset classes. The
tsunami will be Option ARMs, Commercial Real Estate, and Leveraged
Commodity and Carry Trade. Probably not until early next year as
the FED/Treasury will be propping up the economy on funny money
until the moment of reckoning. I am wondering if money market
funds will be safe in this forthcoming storm...

Time to lay in the water rice and gold...
I am sure they have fixed the gold market too to screw you and me.

You would have to try hard to have been screwed investing in gold.
It's up 45% since November last year.



Want some now? That was the question.
Well I wouldn't put all my money into gold today, or at anytime, but I don't
think "they have fixed the gold market too to screw you and me".

If you drop into your local gold dealer and pick up a 5 gram ingot every
Friday for the next year, I'd be surprised if you didn't end up a lot better
off than saving the equivalent GBP100 every week in a bank account.

--
Chad

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