"rosseforP sdrawkcaB" <? sdrawkcab daer uoy naC @ AOL.com> wrote

renound the world over as pushy, arrogant, rude assholes and I'm sure the
French are glad to see them go. I think it has more to do with most yanks
knowing better than to venture too far from home without body armour.

You shouldn't use the invective in generalities, son. It doesn't reflect
well upon your cognitive capacities.
Also, "renowned" is the correct spelling.

JD
p.s. Note I sign my name, not some silly pseudonym.


"Folder" <driveofftrack (AT) everywhere (DOT) com> wrote

On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:46:42 GMT, "JD" <jdhi (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:

JD? How do you pronounce that, then?

PS Wots an invective?

"rosseforP sdrawkcaB" <? sdrawkcab daer uoy naC @ AOL.com> wrote

(bs snipped)

now tell us how's Florida going...

FB

Given the population growth amongst different groups in France, how long
until France is a Muslim country? 50 years? 75? 100? I see bad times
ahead for French culture.


"Raymond Luxury-Yacht II" <raymonlux (AT) yahoo (DOT) com.au> wrote

"rosseforP sdrawkcaB" <? sdrawkcab daer uoy naC @ AOL.com> wrote:

Hey fuckwit - Paris *alone* is gonna get 70 million visitors this year.
More than last year. Can your stinking shithole of a city say the same
thing?

Keep your *weak* dollar, you fucking imbecile.
--
ric

"ric zito" <ric (AT) REMOVEpixelligence (DOT) com> wrote

You must have a big asshole becasue thats where you must have pulled that
number out of. QUOTE " Some 1.7 million Americans visited Paris in 2002,
making them tops among foreign visitors" Meanwhile the French themselves
admit they are kissing our asses to win back our tourists. They would not do
that if they had 70 Million others to drop $$ in their economy. Bet ya their
other tourism is way down too. Otherwise they would not be giving Americans
all these free gifts to lure us back! Bwaaahaaahaaaa! Stick that in your
cesspool of a city !

French tourist board toasts US visitors on July 4
Thursday, 03-Jul-2003 9:30AM PDT Story from AFP
Copyright 2003 by Agence France-Presse (via ClariNet)

PARIS, July 3 (AFP) - The Paris tourist board is hoping to convince US
tourists that the transatlantic row over the Iraq war has been consigned to
the past by offering them gifts, discounts and free champagne on July 4.



About 100 Parisian hotels, restaurants, department stores and tour operators
will greet Americans in the French capital on Friday, US Independence Day,
with free drinks, key chains, perfumes and even a Seine river cruise.

Others will offer typically American meals like brunches and barbecues,
according to the tourist board, which plans to decorate its office on the
famed Champs-Elysees in the red, white and blue of the Stars and Stripes.

The celebration adds to a wider campaign by France's tourist board to lure
US tourists back across the Atlantic following the bitter row between Paris
and Washington over the US-led invasion of Iraq.

Some 1.7 million Americans visited Paris in 2002, making them tops among
foreign visitors, but the numbers have dropped off since the start of 2003
"due to the geopolitical and economic situation", the Paris tourist board
said.

The 2002 figure was down 12.2 percent as compared with 2001, according to
the tourist board.

A group of French and Franco-US associations also trying to erase the
lingering tensions over the Iraq war are honoring some 60,000 US soldiers
buried in France by placing a red rose on their graves for the July 4
holiday.

"Whatever the circumstances and differences of opinion that may exist
between us... we cannot forget, we have not forgotten and we will never
forget the ultimate sacrifice made by American heroes to liberate France
during the two world wars," the associations said in a statement.

The rose campaign began Thursday at the US military cemetery in
Colleville-sur-Mer on the Normandy coast, overlooking Omaha Beach, where
about 9,400 US soldiers are buried.

Washington and Paris fell out over the Iraq war, with French President
Jacques Chirac refusing to back the US-led war to topple Saddam Hussein and
US President George W. Bush resenting his leadership of the anti-war camp.

But the two leaders started down the road to reconciliation last month,
holding their first bilateral talks since the war on the sidelines of a
Group of Eight summit in the French spa town of Evian.

bur-sst/sjw

France-US-July4

http://quickstart.clari.net/qs_se/we...ly4.RiTN_Dl3.h
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In article <1fyvv0l.1nlalfp7s4aioN%ric (AT) REMOVEpixelligence (DOT) com>, ric zito
<ric (AT) REMOVEpixelligence (DOT) com> writes

Err, 70,000,002...

AOL, brother.
--
Paul B The irony of the Information Age is that it has given new
respectability to uninformed opinion. - John Lawton

Well, look at it this way.

Even if your 80% assumption is true :

France has over 70 millions tourists every year (and not Paris only like
Ric said).

Over these 70 millions about 2.3-2.5 are US citizens

If you remove 80% out of 2.3-2.5 that means that you have about 2 millions
less people

That still leaves us with about 68-69 millions tourists per year.

On the other hand speaking PURELY in "US" terms

I think that US citizens are scared to travel a long way from home, after
all Bush is not making a lot to promote the good image of the USA abroad,
the dollar is weak, the economy is still weak, these are many reasons for
the US tourists to stay at home, possibly france has registered a sharper
decline than the rest of the world, but i think in general that a LOT of US
tourists used to go "overseas" are now staying at home, good for the US
tourism industry since I'm quite sure a lot of europeans won't go to the US
also....

SO basically it means that US citizens are probably staying more at home
and Euro citizens are probably more staying in Europe, big deal...

On my personal point of bue, I live in L'isle sur la sorgue and the
americans are still there, you can spot them easily, we seems to have a bit
more english than before but it's nice since they AT LEAST TRY to speak
french, the americans behave just like if the owned the place, and
unfortunately for them they don't.

How would a NYC shopowner behave if I spoke only french to him while
shopping for groceries ?

Txl <txl@@free.fr> wrote:

Strange - I heard the 70 million figure for Paris just the other day, on
France-Info, when they were interviewing staff at the Pompidou Centre.
But I may have heard wrong. I'd be interested to know what proportion of
the 70m visitors are to Paris though. I'd have said half - maybe more?

1.7 million last year, apparently.

Yep. Which is what I pointed out to our "friend" here.

My sister has a tour company in Rome, dealing exclusively with Americans
wishing to tour Italy. Her turnover is down by 70%. Italy is also seeing
a drop in figures, and yet we all remember Citizen Silvio's stance on
the Iraq war. The war has little to do with it, except in the fevered
imagination of monocellular fuckwits like this POS.

My sister tells me that Italian hotels are seeing a lot of Italians this
year. Many holiday homes were rented well in advance too, by Italians.
Normally these people would go abroad (to France, for instance :-).
Looking around my friends here, they are ALL, with one exception (not
counting me) staying in France, be it Brittany, Normandy, Loire Valley,
Bordeaux, Pays Basque, the mountains or the sea. And the exception? He's
off to Quebec... :-)

As for me, I'm going to southern Spain this year. First time in 15
years. It'll be HOT...

To be fair, most of the Merkins I met in Rome last time I was there were
keeping their mouths shut, and were very very embarrassed by the
behaviour of their "leaders". On top of which, with their dollar weak as
it is, they were in the unusual position of being poorer than back home.

Hey, they can't even speak proper English, let alone French... :-)
--
ric