This is why there won't be another F1 race on the Nordschliefe

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=31281

Get well soon, Hans-Joachim.

--
Phil

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tmc1979/

Phil Newnham wrote:

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=31281

Get well soon, Hans-Joachim.

Amen

--
forty

“To embrace an extreme, one must first let go of reason.”

"Phil Newnham" <pnewnham (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=31281

Get well soon, Hans-Joachim.

--
Phil

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tmc1979/

I certainly hope he recovers quickly and you may be completely correct about
another F1 race on the Nordschliefe. However, hitting a stationary car is
going to hurt no matter what track the accident occurs on. So I am not sure
how Stuck's accident proves anything one way or another about that
particular track.

Richard

Richard Krause wrote:

"Phil Newnham" <pnewnham (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:59m6f9F2kgccaU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net...
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=31281

Get well soon, Hans-Joachim.

I certainly hope he recovers quickly and you may be completely correct about
another F1 race on the Nordschliefe. However, hitting a stationary car is
going to hurt no matter what track the accident occurs on. So I am not sure
how Stuck's accident proves anything one way or another about that
particular track.

Because of two things - firstly the lack of run-off, and secondly the
sheer size of the place, and the mountainous terrain, which makes
marshalling it and moving stationary cars out of the way quickly much
more difficult. The reason F1 stopped going was because of how difficult
it was to get the emergency services to Lauda's accident quickly. F1
cars are inherently more dangerous than touring cars because of the
speeds they move at, even despite the safety innovations. I agree that
Stuck could've had that accident anywhere but I think it's more likely
to happen at the Nordschliefe due to the historic nature of the track.

--
Phil

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tmc1979/

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:31:29 +0100, Phil Newnham <pnewnham (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
wrote:

Richard Krause wrote:
"Phil Newnham" <pnewnham (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:59m6f9F2kgccaU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net...
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=31281

Get well soon, Hans-Joachim.

I certainly hope he recovers quickly and you may be completely correct about
another F1 race on the Nordschliefe. However, hitting a stationary car is
going to hurt no matter what track the accident occurs on. So I am not sure
how Stuck's accident proves anything one way or another about that
particular track.

Because of two things - firstly the lack of run-off, and secondly the
sheer size of the place, and the mountainous terrain, which makes
marshalling it and moving stationary cars out of the way quickly much
more difficult. The reason F1 stopped going was because of how difficult
it was to get the emergency services to Lauda's accident quickly. F1
cars are inherently more dangerous than touring cars because of the
speeds they move at, even despite the safety innovations. I agree that
Stuck could've had that accident anywhere but I think it's more likely
to happen at the Nordschliefe due to the historic nature of the track.

You must lay awake every night thinking up new ways to be less
reasoned.


--

"...Luigi follow only the Ferraris."

Phil Newnham <pnewnham (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in
news:59mcu1F2l2gr7U1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net:

Richard Krause wrote:
"Phil Newnham" <pnewnham (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:59m6f9F2kgccaU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net...
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=31281

Get well soon, Hans-Joachim.

I certainly hope he recovers quickly and you may be completely correct
about another F1 race on the Nordschliefe. However, hitting a
stationary car is going to hurt no matter what track the accident
occurs on. So I am not sure how Stuck's accident proves anything one
way or another about that particular track.

Because of two things - firstly the lack of run-off, and secondly the
sheer size of the place, and the mountainous terrain, which makes
marshalling it and moving stationary cars out of the way quickly much
more difficult. The reason F1 stopped going was because of how
difficult it was to get the emergency services to Lauda's accident
quickly. F1 cars are inherently more dangerous than touring cars
because of the speeds they move at, even despite the safety
innovations.
Maybe as technology develops they will be able to get the drivers out of

cars, or maybe even get the cars totally computer-controlled. Then there
will be no safety concern for drivers and no need to remove the stopped
cars until the race is over. So they might be able to return to old and
challenging tracks

On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 10:16:07 -0400, "Richard Krause"
<rskrause (AT) adelphia (DOT) net> wrote:

"Phil Newnham" <pnewnham (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:59m6f9F2kgccaU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net...
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=31281

Get well soon, Hans-Joachim.

--
Phil

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tmc1979/

I certainly hope he recovers quickly and you may be completely correct about
another F1 race on the Nordschliefe. However, hitting a stationary car is
going to hurt no matter what track the accident occurs on. So I am not sure
how Stuck's accident proves anything one way or another about that
particular track.

I don't think current F1 cars could take the punishment on that track.

From all onboard footages i've seen, it is a very bumpy and uneven
track.
But that aside, 13Kms would make the race 23 laps or so and with the
cars so closely matched and virtually automated, a bore to watch.
After 2-3 laps it would become a faster parade, but still a parade.

--

Regards, Frank