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Re: I'm gonna regret this.....
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Re: I'm gonna regret this..... -
07-04-2009
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It's really weird, I've been following F1 for 30 years+ (must be as I remember James Hunt winning) but I have never seen the fascination with Senna. He was a good driver, but I can't see the idolism (is that even a word) that some people hold him in. Seems to me he was in the right car at the right time which made him look good, bit like Hamilton the last couple of years. |
holds the number of polls as a record, the only one that MS didn't beat.
For that? He was exciting to watch. As a driver? Not as exciting as
Mansell, but certainly more fun to see than Prost, who I found incredibly
boring to watch race.
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Some absolutely wonderful drives where he seemingly drove beyond the realistic maximum....and his track record before F1 doesn't count, right? "Idolised" - dunno which word to use either! |
qualifying the car. He had a bag of dirty tricks, loved to mouth off (but
back in those days Mansell wasn't a Nun either). I was at the point in '94
when he joined Williams that I thought he would be a 4 timer and driving that
car was "gifting" him the DWC. But he never scored a single point with the
Williams in the two races before his untimely death. He seemed to have
mellowed by then. The interviews I read with him seemed to demonstrate a
less controversial attitude. A surprise to me because he was always such a
prick.
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mower man wrote Some absolutely wonderful drives where he seemingly drove beyond the realistic maximum....and his track record before F1 doesn't count, right? "Idolised" - dunno which word to use either! I like 'chargers'. And it was rare to see Senna do that, unless he was qualifying the car. He had a bag of dirty tricks, loved to mouth off (but back in those days Mansell wasn't a Nun either). I was at the point in '94 when he joined Williams that I thought he would be a 4 timer and driving that car was "gifting" him the DWC. But he never scored a single point with the Williams in the two races before his untimely death. He seemed to have mellowed by then. The interviews I read with him seemed to demonstrate a less controversial attitude. A surprise to me because he was always such a prick. |
I'll agree to differ - sorry, but I thought that was Mansell's role. Was
Senna's European GP drive at Donington in the wet not a charge?
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Chris
I am not young enough to know everything.
Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900)
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Berf wrote: mower man wrote Some absolutely wonderful drives where he seemingly drove beyond the realistic maximum....and his track record before F1 doesn't count, right? "Idolised" - dunno which word to use either! I like 'chargers'. And it was rare to see Senna do that, unless he was qualifying the car. He had a bag of dirty tricks, loved to mouth off (but back in those days Mansell wasn't a Nun either). I was at the point in '94 when he joined Williams that I thought he would be a 4 timer and driving that car was "gifting" him the DWC. But he never scored a single point with the Williams in the two races before his untimely death. He seemed to have mellowed by then. The interviews I read with him seemed to demonstrate a less controversial attitude. A surprise to me because he was always such a prick. I'll agree to differ - sorry, but I thought that was Mansell's role. Was Senna's European GP drive at Donington in the wet not a charge? |
I was very happy to see that race again back in 1993 when SpeedTV was doing
Formula One Decade.
Over all though, Senna wasn't near the charger as Nige.
But again, if the driver doesn't have the car or the team, he's a nobody.
Nige blew chunks in 1988 when he had the Williams-Judd, Senna and Prost were
on turbo and won every race, save for the Ferrari win that year.
Look at poor Lewis Hamilton this year! He's "Lewis who?"
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Alan Smith wrote: [snip] He was a good driver, but I can't see the idolism (is that even a word) that some people hold him in. "Idolised" - dunno which word to use either! |
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be warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchet, 'Jingo'.
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Somewhere on teh intarwebs mower man wrote: Alan Smith wrote: [snip] He was a good driver, but I can't see the idolism (is that even a word) that some people hold him in. "Idolised" - dunno which word to use either! Idolisation? |
religious context.
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Chris
I am not young enough to know everything.
Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900)
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Berf wrote: mower man wrote Some absolutely wonderful drives where he seemingly drove beyond the realistic maximum....and his track record before F1 doesn't count, right? "Idolised" - dunno which word to use either! I like 'chargers'. And it was rare to see Senna do that, unless he was qualifying the car. He had a bag of dirty tricks, loved to mouth off (but back in those days Mansell wasn't a Nun either). I was at the point in '94 when he joined Williams that I thought he would be a 4 timer and driving that car was "gifting" him the DWC. But he never scored a single point with the Williams in the two races before his untimely death. He seemed to have mellowed by then. The interviews I read with him seemed to demonstrate a less controversial attitude. A surprise to me because he was always such a prick. I'll agree to differ - sorry, but I thought that was Mansell's role. Was Senna's European GP drive at Donington in the wet not a charge? |
Even to mention Mansell in the same breath as Senna is ridiculous.
Clark now, that's a different matter.
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On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:51:52 +0100, mower man <nospam (AT) f2s (DOT) com> wrote: Berf wrote: mower man wrote Some absolutely wonderful drives where he seemingly drove beyond the realistic maximum....and his track record before F1 doesn't count, right? "Idolised" - dunno which word to use either! I like 'chargers'. And it was rare to see Senna do that, unless he was qualifying the car. He had a bag of dirty tricks, loved to mouth off (but back in those days Mansell wasn't a Nun either). I was at the point in '94 when he joined Williams that I thought he would be a 4 timer and driving that car was "gifting" him the DWC. But he never scored a single point with the Williams in the two races before his untimely death. He seemed to have mellowed by then. The interviews I read with him seemed to demonstrate a less controversial attitude. A surprise to me because he was always such a prick. I'll agree to differ - sorry, but I thought that was Mansell's role. Was Senna's European GP drive at Donington in the wet not a charge? You are completely right. Even to mention Mansell in the same breath as Senna is ridiculous. Clark now, that's a different matter. |
taken my breath away too - but he did them in such a calm manner!
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Chris
I am not young enough to know everything.
Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900)
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