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Re: That pass
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Re: That pass -
07-01-2003
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On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 08:04:50 GMT, CatharticF1 <eferrari (AT) heaven (DOT) net wrote: In article <r6f2gv4rgu5h4kq65qagsq5rk6slqjm11u (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, youngy (AT) bigpond (DOT) com says... snip If JPM didn't have a go at overtaking it would've been avoided, if he had've yielded it would've been avoided. JPM gave him room for his car and then some. Again you know that it untrue 'and then some'? - given that they made contact, that is unjustified. "As for the collision with Juan Pablo, in my opinion it was a straightforward racing incident. He was faster than me, tried to pass, gave me just enough room to survive. Maybe I could have wished for a little bit more space, but I have no problem with Juan Pablo over this. No one was to blame." Schumi's comments, so how is it untrue. He had at least his car and another metre or so. He had enough room to survive yet somehow he didn't. Well he did thru sheer luck of where he ended up but you know what I mean. I'm just saying that obviously it was marginal (as they made contact) so that the 'and then some' was probably pushing it a little! snip Yeh, but your assuming that because of the contact it was marginal room. There is another explanation. Schumi made a mistake. Have you ever contemplated this? |
a spin. I'm not sure what else you mean?
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In article <o9r2gvkrg1klaejj10a3u1f99ogmh22ovf (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, youngy (AT) bigpond (DOT) com says... On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 08:04:50 GMT, CatharticF1 <eferrari (AT) heaven (DOT) net wrote: In article <r6f2gv4rgu5h4kq65qagsq5rk6slqjm11u (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, youngy (AT) bigpond (DOT) com says... snip If JPM didn't have a go at overtaking it would've been avoided, if he had've yielded it would've been avoided. JPM gave him room for his car and then some. Again you know that it untrue 'and then some'? - given that they made contact, that is unjustified. "As for the collision with Juan Pablo, in my opinion it was a straightforward racing incident. He was faster than me, tried to pass, gave me just enough room to survive. Maybe I could have wished for a little bit more space, but I have no problem with Juan Pablo over this. No one was to blame." Schumi's comments, so how is it untrue. He had at least his car and another metre or so. He had enough room to survive yet somehow he didn't. Well he did thru sheer luck of where he ended up but you know what I mean. I'm just saying that obviously it was marginal (as they made contact) so that the 'and then some' was probably pushing it a little! snip Yeh, but your assuming that because of the contact it was marginal room. There is another explanation. Schumi made a mistake. Have you ever contemplated this? Well you can see roughtly what happened, drifting wide, contact and then a spin. I'm not sure what else you mean? |
Either:
1) Schumi allowed his car to drift out wide misjudging to the point
where he caused contact to another car.
2) Schumi had no control over how far his car drifted wide, and
therefore made the error of carrying too much speed into that corner
in an attempt to defend himself from being overtaken.
Ergo ... Schumi mistake. Simple if your allegiance is not blind.
Youngy
Montoya/Williams 2003 WDC
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On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 11:38:05 GMT, CatharticF1 <eferrari (AT) heaven (DOT) net wrote: In article <o9r2gvkrg1klaejj10a3u1f99ogmh22ovf (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, youngy (AT) bigpond (DOT) com says... On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 08:04:50 GMT, CatharticF1 <eferrari (AT) heaven (DOT) net wrote: In article <r6f2gv4rgu5h4kq65qagsq5rk6slqjm11u (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, youngy (AT) bigpond (DOT) com says... snip If JPM didn't have a go at overtaking it would've been avoided, if he had've yielded it would've been avoided. JPM gave him room for his car and then some. Again you know that it untrue 'and then some'? - given that they made contact, that is unjustified. "As for the collision with Juan Pablo, in my opinion it was a straightforward racing incident. He was faster than me, tried to pass, gave me just enough room to survive. Maybe I could have wished for a little bit more space, but I have no problem with Juan Pablo over this. No one was to blame." Schumi's comments, so how is it untrue. He had at least his car and another metre or so. He had enough room to survive yet somehow he didn't. Well he did thru sheer luck of where he ended up but you know what I mean. I'm just saying that obviously it was marginal (as they made contact) so that the 'and then some' was probably pushing it a little! snip Yeh, but your assuming that because of the contact it was marginal room. There is another explanation. Schumi made a mistake. Have you ever contemplated this? Well you can see roughtly what happened, drifting wide, contact and then a spin. I'm not sure what else you mean? Well then maybe I need to spell it out. Either: 1) Schumi allowed his car to drift out wide misjudging to the point where he caused contact to another car. 2) Schumi had no control over how far his car drifted wide, and therefore made the error of carrying too much speed into that corner in an attempt to defend himself from being overtaken. Ergo ... Schumi mistake. Simple if your allegiance is not blind. Youngy Montoya/Williams 2003 WDC |
contact, both car usually spin off. In fact, it's usually the car
on the outside that gets turfed off, it was most unusual that
MS was spun off. But then in the past we've seen him
make mistakes when he's back in the pack and not
up front - he seems to have forgotten how to handle
the stresses of cars all around him. MS fans will
say otherwise.
MH
"alot is not a word"
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On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 23:09:08 GMT, CatharticF1 <eferrari (AT) heaven (DOT) net wrote: "As for the collision with Juan Pablo, in my opinion it was a straightforward racing incident. He was faster than me, tried to pass, gave me just enough room to survive. Maybe I could have wished for a little bit more space, but I have no problem with Juan Pablo over this. No one was to blame." Schumi's comments, so how is it untrue. |
wrecked someone, but now you do because you think they benefit you?
Very selective.
MS is being a gentleman now, but he's just a sick of this shit as everyone
else. Ask Brawn.
David Micahel Ralf Schumacher Fisher
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"ric zito" <ric (AT) REMOVEpixelligence (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1fxea4l.e2nhz0g7x2e4N%ric (AT) REMOVEpixelligence (DOT) com... CatharticF1 <eferrari (AT) heaven (DOT) net> wrote: Well I would suggest that even with MS drifting wide, JPM could have made the corner, taken second place and avoided contact. Do you disagree? Put Villeneuve in MS's place - then what would your reaction have been? I'm betting *very* different. My reaction would be: 'Juan Pinball is a freaking idiot!' But you already knew that... |
with a red car not being involved.
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In article <ck52gvs8n52tgv5o3g2okg90dmvc8kfi7i (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, Treebeard wrote: I do. It wasn't JPM who needed to avoid contact... http://www.autosport.com/popups/arti...p?s=5&id=23649 Q: He was quite critical ? he said you used to have nice fights with Mika, but this wasn't a particularly nice move from Juan Pablo? "Well, as I said before I felt I wouldn't have done anything different on the other side, and that sometimes happens. I would have been a little bit more happy if he left me a little bit more space, but that's not his job, to make me happy." |
scathing attack from "Crybaby" Brawn. Will their opinions miraculously
now meet somewhere in the middle perhaps?
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On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 11:38:05 GMT, CatharticF1 <eferrari (AT) heaven (DOT) net wrote: In article <o9r2gvkrg1klaejj10a3u1f99ogmh22ovf (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, youngy (AT) bigpond (DOT) com says... On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 08:04:50 GMT, CatharticF1 <eferrari (AT) heaven (DOT) net wrote: In article <r6f2gv4rgu5h4kq65qagsq5rk6slqjm11u (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, youngy (AT) bigpond (DOT) com says... snip If JPM didn't have a go at overtaking it would've been avoided, if he had've yielded it would've been avoided. JPM gave him room for his car and then some. Again you know that it untrue 'and then some'? - given that they made contact, that is unjustified. "As for the collision with Juan Pablo, in my opinion it was a straightforward racing incident. He was faster than me, tried to pass, gave me just enough room to survive. Maybe I could have wished for a little bit more space, but I have no problem with Juan Pablo over this. No one was to blame." Schumi's comments, so how is it untrue. He had at least his car and another metre or so. He had enough room to survive yet somehow he didn't. Well he did thru sheer luck of where he ended up but you know what I mean. I'm just saying that obviously it was marginal (as they made contact) so that the 'and then some' was probably pushing it a little! snip Yeh, but your assuming that because of the contact it was marginal room. There is another explanation. Schumi made a mistake. Have you ever contemplated this? Well you can see roughtly what happened, drifting wide, contact and then a spin. I'm not sure what else you mean? Well then maybe I need to spell it out. Either: 1) Schumi allowed his car to drift out wide misjudging to the point where he caused contact to another car. 2) Schumi had no control over how far his car drifted wide, and therefore made the error of carrying too much speed into that corner in an attempt to defend himself from being overtaken. Ergo ... Schumi mistake. Simple if your allegiance is not blind. |
might have avoided the contact.
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| MS is being a gentleman now, but he's just a sick of this shit as everyone else. Ask Brawn. |
seen in F1 in recent years is his no.1???
KK
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"David G Fisher" <davegfnospam (AT) home (DOT) com> wrote in message news:v7-cnQngpJCfSJyiXTWJjg (AT) comcast (DOT) com... MS is being a gentleman now, but he's just a sick of this shit as everyone else. Ask Brawn. How can Brawn dare comment on classy driver, when the most unclassy driver seen in F1 in recent years is his no.1??? Umm... it could be because he's a hypocritical asshole |
who looks like he just crawled out of a god-damn garbage dumpster.
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