Re: Red Bull Racing staying with Renault Formula 1 power in 2010

#1

On Nov 3, 3:23*am, Noj <m... (AT) nomail (DOT) afraid.org> wrote:

Quote:

That should ensure no WDC for them next year!

There's a school of thought that says that the Renault engine is more
fuel efficient than the other F1 engines, and so a car running a
Renault engine next year will have an advantage in that it will carry
a smaller fuel load.

#2

Bob Dubery wrote:

Quote:

On Nov 3, 3:23*am, Noj <m... (AT) nomail (DOT) afraid.org> wrote:

That should ensure no WDC for them next year!

There's a school of thought that says that the Renault engine is more
fuel efficient than the other F1 engines, and so a car running a
Renault engine next year will have an advantage in that it will carry
a smaller fuel load.

Hmmm, unlikely. That Mercedes is pretty mean on fuel, too. Maybe
Renault need to get Mecachrome involved again?

--
Paul-B

#3

In message <RLmdnXqgbLr4LG3XnZ2dnUVZ8hednZ2d (AT) pipex (DOT) net>, mower man
<nospam (AT) f2s (DOT) com> writes

Quote:

How many constructors have built their own engine? Answers on a
postcard, please. Brian?

I can recall so far: Maserati, Ferrari, Vanwall, Cosworth (yes, they
did build a car) BRM, Alfa Romeo, Lamborghini (hang on, did they make
the chassis? probably not) Renault, Matra, Honda, BMW, Porsche... There
must be more.

Anyone?

Mercedes-Benz? Or is that going back too far?

--
Paul Giverin

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#4

Paul Giverin wrote:

Quote:

In message <RLmdnXqgbLr4LG3XnZ2dnUVZ8hednZ2d (AT) pipex (DOT) net>, mower man
nospam (AT) f2s (DOT) com> writes

How many constructors have built their own engine? Answers on a
postcard, please. Brian?

I can recall so far: Maserati, Ferrari, Vanwall, Cosworth (yes, they
did build a car) BRM, Alfa Romeo, Lamborghini (hang on, did they make
the chassis? probably not) Renault, Matra, Honda, BMW, Porsche...
There must be more.

Anyone?

Mercedes-Benz? Or is that going back too far?

Repco and Climax

--
Chad

#5

Chad wrote:

Quote:

Paul Giverin wrote:
In message <RLmdnXqgbLr4LG3XnZ2dnUVZ8hednZ2d (AT) pipex (DOT) net>, mower man
nospam (AT) f2s (DOT) com> writes

How many constructors have built their own engine? Answers on a
postcard, please. Brian?

I can recall so far: Maserati, Ferrari, Vanwall, Cosworth (yes,
they did build a car) BRM, Alfa Romeo, Lamborghini (hang on, did
they make the chassis? probably not) Renault, Matra, Honda, BMW,
Porsche... There must be more.

Anyone?

Mercedes-Benz? Or is that going back too far?

Repco and Climax

Did Climax build a car?

--
Paul-B

#6

"mower man" <nospam (AT) f2s (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:

How many constructors have built their own engine? Answers on a postcard, please. Brian?

I can recall so far: Maserati, Ferrari, Vanwall, Cosworth (yes, they did build a car) BRM,
Alfa Romeo, Lamborghini (hang on, did they make the chassis? probably not) Renault, Matra,
Honda, BMW, Porsche... There must be more.

Alfa Romeo
Alta
Aston Martin
ATS [1963-64 Italian team, not the later German team]
BRM
Bugatti [one race in 1956]
EMW [one race in 1953]
ERA
Ferrari
Gordini
Honda
Lamborghini
Lancia
Life [never qualified]
Maserati
Matra
Mercedes-Benz
OSCA [Maserati brothers under another name]
Porsche
Renault
Scarab [2 GPs 1960]
Talbot-Lago
Tecno
Toyota
Vanwall
Veritas
Zakspeed

Source: Grand Prix Data Book

The Cosworth never raced in the championship. Lanborghini, AFAIK, did build the
chassis.

--

Brian

#7

Paul-B wrote:

Quote:

Chad wrote:

Paul Giverin wrote:
In message <RLmdnXqgbLr4LG3XnZ2dnUVZ8hednZ2d (AT) pipex (DOT) net>, mower man
nospam (AT) f2s (DOT) com> writes

How many constructors have built their own engine? Answers on a
postcard, please. Brian?

I can recall so far: Maserati, Ferrari, Vanwall, Cosworth (yes,
they did build a car) BRM, Alfa Romeo, Lamborghini (hang on, did
they make the chassis? probably not) Renault, Matra, Honda, BMW,
Porsche... There must be more.

Anyone?

Mercedes-Benz? Or is that going back too far?

Repco and Climax

Did Climax build a car?

oops... don't think Repco built a car either. not sure what I was thinking
there

--
Chad

#8

On Nov 3, 9:26*am, "Paul-B" <p... (AT) rasf1 (DOT) net> wrote:

Quote:

Bob Dubery wrote:
On Nov 3, 3:23*am, Noj <m... (AT) nomail (DOT) afraid.org> wrote:

That should ensure no WDC for them next year!

There's a school of thought that says that the Renault engine is more
fuel efficient than the other F1 engines, and so a car running a
Renault engine next year will have an advantage in that it will carry
a smaller fuel load.

Hmmm, unlikely. That Mercedes is pretty mean on fuel, too. Maybe
Renault need to get Mecachrome involved again?

I thought they'd continued to build the Renault F1 engines.

#9

"Chad" <cbstun (AT) safemail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

oops... don't think Repco built a car either. not sure what I was thinking
there

The question was "How many constructors have built their own engine? ".

IIRC the Brabham team first used the Repco engine in the 1966 season.

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