Re: Renault too ?

#11

"AC" <xxx (AT) xxx (DOT) xxx> wrote in news:7rhIm.24154$Sn4.16644 (AT) newsfe15 (DOT) ams2:

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"Noj" <me (AT) nomail (DOT) afraid.org> wrote in message
news:MPG.255b6ca07ce5a3dd989aa2 (AT) news (DOT) astraweb.com...

"...Renault is also holding an extraordinary board meeting to discuss
its future plans today. Although the indications are that the French
company is committed to F1, Toyota's decision to pull out could give
Renault an opportunity to follow suit if it wished..."

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80003

No cheating teams left in F1?

Seems to me that all F1 teams "cheat" one way or another, if they can
and think they can get away with it, or successfully argue it to the
FIA.

If we think that McLaren, Ferrari and Renault are cheats, then why not
bung in Brawn, Toyota and Williams in too? FI possibly get tech info
from McLaren / Merc. Cheats. I hate BMW, so they are cheats, plus they
are GERMAN. Leaving the Red Bull teams. Must be something we can pin on
them.

Half of them have used Ferrari engines, the other half use Renault. Good enough

for you? <g>

#12

"APLer" <APLer (AT) floor (DOT) tilde> wrote

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"AC" <xxx (AT) xxx (DOT) xxx> wrote in news:7rhIm.24154$Sn4.16644 (AT) newsfe15 (DOT) ams2:

"Noj" <me (AT) nomail (DOT) afraid.org> wrote in message
news:MPG.255b6ca07ce5a3dd989aa2 (AT) news (DOT) astraweb.com...

"...Renault is also holding an extraordinary board meeting to discuss
its future plans today. Although the indications are that the French
company is committed to F1, Toyota's decision to pull out could give
Renault an opportunity to follow suit if it wished..."

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80003

No cheating teams left in F1?

Seems to me that all F1 teams "cheat" one way or another, if they can
and think they can get away with it, or successfully argue it to the
FIA.

If we think that McLaren, Ferrari and Renault are cheats, then why not
bung in Brawn, Toyota and Williams in too? FI possibly get tech info
from McLaren / Merc. Cheats. I hate BMW, so they are cheats, plus they
are GERMAN. Leaving the Red Bull teams. Must be something we can pin on
them.

Half of them have used Ferrari engines, the other half use Renault. Good
enough
for you? <g

That'll do me. Now, can we burn them all as witches?

AC

#13

On 11/04/09 18:03, AC wrote:

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"APLer" <APLer (AT) floor (DOT) tilde> wrote in message
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"AC" <xxx (AT) xxx (DOT) xxx> wrote in news:7rhIm.24154$Sn4.16644 (AT) newsfe15 (DOT) ams2:

"Noj" <me (AT) nomail (DOT) afraid.org> wrote in message
news:MPG.255b6ca07ce5a3dd989aa2 (AT) news (DOT) astraweb.com...

"...Renault is also holding an extraordinary board meeting to discuss
its future plans today. Although the indications are that the French
company is committed to F1, Toyota's decision to pull out could give
Renault an opportunity to follow suit if it wished..."

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80003

No cheating teams left in F1?

Seems to me that all F1 teams "cheat" one way or another, if they can
and think they can get away with it, or successfully argue it to the
FIA.

If we think that McLaren, Ferrari and Renault are cheats, then why not
bung in Brawn, Toyota and Williams in too? FI possibly get tech info
from McLaren / Merc. Cheats. I hate BMW, so they are cheats, plus they
are GERMAN. Leaving the Red Bull teams. Must be something we can pin on
them.

Half of them have used Ferrari engines, the other half use Renault.
Good enough
for you? <g

That'll do me. Now, can we burn them all as witches?

AC
only if they weigh the same a a duck.

#14

Alister <alister (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in news:amhIm.45993$7Y2.14700
@newsfe27.ams2:

Quote:

On 11/04/09 10:49, Noj wrote:

"...Renault is also holding an extraordinary board meeting to discuss
its future plans today. Although the indications are that the French
company is committed to F1, Toyota's decision to pull out could give
Renault an opportunity to follow suit if it wished..."

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80003

No cheating teams left in F1?

the red cars are till there

Britpack alert..

--
CatharticF1

"What you thought was freedom is just greed."

#15

On Nov 5, 7:04*am, CatharticF1 <rasf1pos... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:

Alister <alis... (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in news:amhIm.45993$7Y2.14700
@newsfe27.ams2:

On 11/04/09 10:49, Noj wrote:

"...Renault is also holding an extraordinary board meeting to discuss
its future plans today. Although the indications are that the French
company is committed to F1, Toyota's decision to pull out could give
Renault an opportunity to follow suit if it wished..."

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80003

No cheating teams left in F1?

the red cars are till there

Britpack alert..

There's that good old nationality card being played again. Don't have
a good argument? Just play that nationality card.

#16

Bob Dubery <megapode (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in
news:a7036ed0-c859-4e00-9991-f1db41a1bbf8 (AT) f16g2000yqm (DOT) googlegroups.com:

Quote:

On Nov 5, 7:04*am, CatharticF1 <rasf1pos... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Alister <alis... (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in news:amhIm.45993$7Y2.14700
@newsfe27.ams2:

On 11/04/09 10:49, Noj wrote:

"...Renault is also holding an extraordinary board meeting to
discuss its future plans today. Although the indications are that
the French company is committed to F1, Toyota's decision to pull
out could give Renault an opportunity to follow suit if it
wished..."

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80003

No cheating teams left in F1?

the red cars are till there

Britpack alert..

There's that good old nationality card being played again. Don't have
a good argument?

Oh you just know that ain't the case.

Quote:

Just play that nationality card.

What - you don't see the selectivity of calling Ferrari cheats and
ignoring McLaren's conviction in 2007 and lying at the start of 2009?

I think you do Bob, but your agenda is me. How flattering

--
CatharticF1

"What you thought was freedom is just greed."

#17

On Nov 5, 8:10*am, CatharticF1 <rasf1pos... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:

Bob Dubery <megap... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote innews:a7036ed0-c859-4e00-9991-f1db41a1bbf8 (AT) f16g2000yqm (DOT) googlegroups.com:

On Nov 5, 7:04*am, CatharticF1 <rasf1pos... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Alister <alis... (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in news:amhIm.45993$7Y2.14700
@newsfe27.ams2:

On 11/04/09 10:49, Noj wrote:

"...Renault is also holding an extraordinary board meeting to
discuss its future plans today. Although the indications are that
the French company is committed to F1, Toyota's decision to pull
out could give Renault an opportunity to follow suit if it
wished..."

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80003

No cheating teams left in F1?

the red cars are till there

Britpack alert..

There's that good old nationality card being played again. Don't have
a good argument?

Oh you just know that ain't the case.

Just play that nationality card.

What - you don't see the selectivity of calling Ferrari cheats and
ignoring McLaren's conviction in 2007 and lying at the start of 2009?

I was addressing the way that the argument descended to nationality.

Calling Ferrari cheats may be selective, but it's nothing to do with
nationality (unless you say something like "typical wop cheats".)

You didn't address the selectivity either. You just played that good
old Britpack card.

#18

On Nov 5, 6:10*am, CatharticF1 <rasf1pos... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:

Bob Dubery <megap... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote innews:a7036ed0-c859-4e00-9991-f1db41a1bbf8 (AT) f16g2000yqm (DOT) googlegroups.com:

On Nov 5, 7:04*am, CatharticF1 <rasf1pos... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Alister <alis... (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in news:amhIm.45993$7Y2.14700
@newsfe27.ams2:

On 11/04/09 10:49, Noj wrote:

"...Renault is also holding an extraordinary board meeting to
discuss its future plans today. Although the indications are that
the French company is committed to F1, Toyota's decision to pull
out could give Renault an opportunity to follow suit if it
wished..."

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80003

No cheating teams left in F1?

the red cars are till there

Britpack alert..

There's that good old nationality card being played again. Don't have
a good argument?

Oh you just know that ain't the case.

Just play that nationality card.

What - you don't see the selectivity of calling Ferrari cheats and
ignoring McLaren's conviction in 2007 and lying at the start of 2009?

I think you do Bob, but your agenda is me. How flattering

You're noone's agenda Brenda. Just a focus for howls of ridicule.

#19

On Nov 5, 1:00*pm, Noj <m... (AT) nomail (DOT) afraid.org> wrote:

Quote:

There we go. *I'm English - every fucker in the world takes a pop at us,
all the fucking time. *I'm happy to take it - and I'm also happy to dish
it out.
It's not my fault you're an arrogant south african. *And you're not -
you'd be the first I've had any dealings with who isn't.

Oh look! Generalizations on the basis of nationality. AND a two wrongs
make a right defense.

Note to self: Told you so.

#20

On 11/05/09 05:26, Bob Dubery wrote:

Quote:

On Nov 5, 7:04 am, CatharticF1<rasf1pos... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Alister<alis... (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in news:amhIm.45993$7Y2.14700
@newsfe27.ams2:

On 11/04/09 10:49, Noj wrote:

"...Renault is also holding an extraordinary board meeting to discuss
its future plans today. Although the indications are that the French
company is committed to F1, Toyota's decision to pull out could give
Renault an opportunity to follow suit if it wished..."

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80003

No cheating teams left in F1?

the red cars are till there

Britpack alert..

There's that good old nationality card being played again. Don't have
a good argument? Just play that nationality card.

Nothing Nationalistic about my post

just a reminder of the fact that Ferrari have not been without incidents
of cheating.
although FIA rules do make it much harder for them (Ferrari get what
Ferrari Want)