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Default [Spoiler] Mclaren's form - 04-07-2007 , 06:08 AM






They seem to be right with the Ferraris, don't they? Fernando dominated
most of practice, Lewis was also on P1 at one point, and it was only
thanks to a last-minute banzai lap from Massa that Fernando was denied
pole.

Pretty amazing, considering the so-called second-and-a-half advantage
the Ferraris were supposed to have only three weeks ago. I wonder how
much the flexi-floor had to do with Ferrari's speed. more than they are
willing to admit, it would seem.
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Default Re: [Spoiler] Mclaren's form - 04-07-2007 , 06:34 AM






ric zito wrote in news:1hw77bu.30ldlc5xys10N%address (AT) in (DOT) sig:

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They seem to be right with the Ferraris, don't they? Fernando dominated
most of practice, Lewis was also on P1 at one point, and it was only
thanks to a last-minute banzai lap from Massa that Fernando was denied
pole.
It's only practice.

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Pretty amazing, considering the so-called second-and-a-half advantage
the Ferraris were supposed to have only three weeks ago. I wonder how
much the flexi-floor had to do with Ferrari's speed. more than they are
willing to admit, it would seem.
If you look very carefully you can clearly see that Kimi was towing a
caravan.

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Default Re: [Spoiler] Mclaren's form - 04-07-2007 , 06:56 AM



In message <1hw77bu.30ldlc5xys10N%address (AT) in (DOT) sig>, ric zito
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They seem to be right with the Ferraris, don't they?
Pretty much, yes.

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Fernando dominated
most of practice, Lewis was also on P1 at one point, and it was only
thanks to a last-minute banzai lap from Massa that Fernando was denied
pole.
I'd say the Ferraris are still marginally ahead - my guess is that Kimi
is slightly heavier than Alonso, and probably about the same as Lewis.

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Pretty amazing, considering the so-called second-and-a-half advantage
the Ferraris were supposed to have only three weeks ago. I wonder how
much the flexi-floor had to do with Ferrari's speed. more than they are
willing to admit, it would seem.
Too soon to say. It could be just down to the different characteristics
of the circuit, the different temperature and humidity, or Ferrari
concerns about the engines lasting out. But I would certainly bet that
Ferrari's claim that it made zero difference is a lie.
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Default Re: [Spoiler] Mclaren's form - 04-07-2007 , 08:30 AM



BigBird wrote:
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"ric zito" <address (AT) in (DOT) sig> wrote in message
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They seem to be right with the Ferraris, don't they? Fernando dominated
most of practice, Lewis was also on P1 at one point, and it was only
thanks to a last-minute banzai lap from Massa that Fernando was denied
pole.


Hamilton says " I think we could have had two cars on the front row"
inferring that he thinks Alonso also underperformed today.
Eh? The only way to get both Maccas on the front row is for them to have
both been quicker than Massa? Have I missed something, or didn't
Hamilton qualify 4th and Alonso 2nd?

Quote:
Maybe he didn't quite mean that, but it brought a little grin to my face.

Great to see them mixing it at the sharp end. I hope the times are
representative.
We'll see tomorrow. The big difference between Kimi and Massa means one
of two things; either Felipe is genuinely that much quicker, or he's
carrying a fair bit less fuel.

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Default Re: [Spoiler] Mclaren's form - 04-07-2007 , 09:37 AM



On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 12:08:53 +0200, address (AT) in (DOT) sig (ric zito) wrote:

Quote:
They seem to be right with the Ferraris, don't they? Fernando dominated
most of practice, Lewis was also on P1 at one point, and it was only
thanks to a last-minute banzai lap from Massa that Fernando was denied
pole.

Pretty amazing, considering the so-called second-and-a-half advantage
the Ferraris were supposed to have only three weeks ago. I wonder how
much the flexi-floor had to do with Ferrari's speed. more than they are
willing to admit, it would seem.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but they're at a different circuit this
weekend, aren't they?

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Default Re: [Spoiler] Mclaren's form - 04-07-2007 , 10:07 AM



Ian Dalziel wrote:
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On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 12:08:53 +0200, address (AT) in (DOT) sig (ric zito) wrote:

They seem to be right with the Ferraris, don't they? Fernando dominated
most of practice, Lewis was also on P1 at one point, and it was only
thanks to a last-minute banzai lap from Massa that Fernando was denied
pole.

Pretty amazing, considering the so-called second-and-a-half advantage
the Ferraris were supposed to have only three weeks ago. I wonder how
much the flexi-floor had to do with Ferrari's speed. more than they are
willing to admit, it would seem.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but they're at a different circuit this
weekend, aren't they?

Yes, but the comment the other guy is making is fair enough. While you
do see some fluctations in relative speed at different circuits -
especially when they are of different natures - these differences rarely
are enough to make substantial differences. In other words, it is more
common to see that a particular car is dominant at present, and it will
be the dominant car at whatever circuit they go to. Over the course of
the season, that can change, but that is due to different development
schedules rather than changes in track.


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Default Re: [Spoiler] Mclaren's form - 04-07-2007 , 10:41 AM



Ian Dalziel <iandalziel (AT) lineone (DOT) net> wrote:

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but they're at a different circuit this
weekend, aren't they?
Yes, and I expect in two weeks time, at the next different circuit, the
Hondas will have a 3 second advantage over everyone.
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Default Re: [Spoiler] Mclaren's form - 04-07-2007 , 02:01 PM



On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 12:08:53 +0200, address (AT) in (DOT) sig (ric zito) wrote:
Quote:
They seem to be right with the Ferraris, don't they? Fernando dominated
most of practice, Lewis was also on P1 at one point, and it was only
thanks to a last-minute banzai lap from Massa that Fernando was denied
pole.

Pretty amazing, considering the so-called second-and-a-half advantage
the Ferraris were supposed to have only three weeks ago. I wonder how
much the flexi-floor had to do with Ferrari's speed. more than they are
willing to admit, it would seem.
....Only thanks to Ron Dennis exercising his Englishwoman's prerogative
to hobble Ferrari's innovation.

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Ian Dalziel
 
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Default Re: [Spoiler] Mclaren's form - 04-07-2007 , 04:04 PM



On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 07:07:04 -0700, Mark <mark (AT) eliminatespam (DOT) com>
wrote:

Quote:
Ian Dalziel wrote:
On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 12:08:53 +0200, address (AT) in (DOT) sig (ric zito) wrote:

They seem to be right with the Ferraris, don't they? Fernando dominated
most of practice, Lewis was also on P1 at one point, and it was only
thanks to a last-minute banzai lap from Massa that Fernando was denied
pole.

Pretty amazing, considering the so-called second-and-a-half advantage
the Ferraris were supposed to have only three weeks ago. I wonder how
much the flexi-floor had to do with Ferrari's speed. more than they are
willing to admit, it would seem.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but they're at a different circuit this
weekend, aren't they?


Yes, but the comment the other guy is making is fair enough. While you
do see some fluctations in relative speed at different circuits -
especially when they are of different natures - these differences rarely
are enough to make substantial differences. In other words, it is more
common to see that a particular car is dominant at present, and it will
be the dominant car at whatever circuit they go to. Over the course of
the season, that can change, but that is due to different development
schedules rather than changes in track.
If you say so.

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Ian Dalziel
 
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Default Re: [Spoiler] Mclaren's form - 04-07-2007 , 04:05 PM



On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 16:41:15 +0200, address (AT) in (DOT) sig (ric zito) wrote:

Quote:
Ian Dalziel <iandalziel (AT) lineone (DOT) net> wrote:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but they're at a different circuit this
weekend, aren't they?

Yes, and I expect in two weeks time, at the next different circuit, the
Hondas will have a 3 second advantage over everyone.
If you say s...

Nah, now you're just being silly!

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