AutosTalk Forums  

Stepney moves in Ferrari reshuffle

Formula 1 Formula 1 motor racing discusions (rec.autos.sport.f1)


Discuss Stepney moves in Ferrari reshuffle in the Formula 1 forum.



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #11  
Old   
Pete Fenelon
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: Stepney moves in Ferrari reshuffle - 02-23-2007 , 01:32 PM






KERRY MONTGOMERY <kamontgo (AT) teleport (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
There's some additional info here:
http://www.speedtv.com/articles/auto/formulaone/33631/
Sounds like he's been in HR only a short time.
Kerry

Then I hope his recovery from brain injury is as rapid as Richard
Hammond's.

pete
--
pete (AT) fenelon (DOT) com "it made about as much sense as a polythene sandwich"


Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old   
DrEvil
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: Stepney moves in Ferrari reshuffle - 02-23-2007 , 02:11 PM






X-No-Archive: Yes

On 23 helmi, 18:08, "DC" <dcunli... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
On 23 Feb, 15:08, "Paul-B" <p... (AT) rasf1 (DOT) net> wrote:





Hell and High Water wrote:

In article <4043b4-3qh1.... (AT) stratos (DOT) fenelon.com>, p... (AT) fenelon (DOT) com
says...
Anand Nene <anandnNOS... (AT) gmx (DOT) net> wrote:

Former head of human resources Mario Almondo has been made the
new technical director,

Oh splendid - make an HR corporate trouser limpet into the technical
director. That's Ferrari fucked then - the average HR onanist
couldn't find his arse with both hands.

Ferrari is sounding very 1992/3, musical chairs and organisational
chaos.

Don't worry!

Kimi can rally everyone around him, the natural leader that he is....

Never was, never will be (and that applies to DWC, too).

Either you and Phil just had a humour bypass or you've been well and
truly whooshed...

Interesting stuff this though. It seems to me that:

a) Nigel thought he deserved to be promoted to fill Ross's size 12s;
Aren't there two people filling Ross' shoes right now? Luca Baldisseri
and Mario Almondo?

Quote:
2) He's fallen out in a major way with Mario/Luca and there's no way
he's going to work for "that arsehole"; and/or
iii) He agrees with Pete and most of the rest of the human race about
HR people in general...

Whatever, it's looking increasingly like Ferrari are about to fuck
themselves. Shame that...

Mclaren lost the brainpower behind their cars (Newey, Prodromou and
Tombazis) yet they are still here and apparently in quite a good
position right now despite this. Losing a guy who is probably best
remembered suffering a broken leg while tanking Punter's car seems not
so dramatic in comparison. Let's not blow this out of proportion.


Quote:
David- Piilota siteerattu teksti -

- Näytä siteerattu teksti -



Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old   
wombat52002@yahoo.co.uk
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: Stepney moves in Ferrari reshuffle - 02-23-2007 , 02:54 PM



On Feb 23, 1:32 pm, Pete Fenelon <p... (AT) fenelon (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
Phil Newnham <pnewn... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

I was assuming that Bob was bemoaning the lack of Herr Schumacher, and
not the lack of Ross Brawn, or the promotion of an HR guy (who,
incidentally, may or may not have an engineering background - we should
be told).

You can't be much of an engineer if you willingly move downwards
into HR - that's an occupation reserved for bovine, dim-witted
upper-middle-class Home Counties female Geography graduates (usually
called Zara, Zarah, Sara...) who draw florid and very bad pictures
of stallions, read abominable chick-lit on the Tube, tend to become
"a little squiffy" on two glasses of Chardonnay and think of
themselves as "a little bit wacky, a little bit Ally, a little bit
Bridget, a little bit Sex in the City", and tend to become faintly
orgasmic at the thought of vampire lust and shoes.

Death is sadly far too good for them. Yet they can fuck your career with
the same ease with which they allow themselves to be shagged by rugger
buggers.
LOL!

Quote:
The function of HR is to keep employees working as cheaply as possible.

The function of workers is to attempt to thwart HR at every possible
opportunity.

pete
--
p... (AT) fenelon (DOT) com "it made about as much sense as a polythene sandwich"
LOL! Another reason why this NG is still worth reading is Pete's
hilarious posts followed by Doc and Tony. Their old racing trivia and
stories are great. Pete really has a low tolerance for corporate
stooges and spammers. ;-)

My guess is Brawn and Schumacher ruled the roost at Ferrari followed
by Rory Byrne. Brawn and Byrne made Schumi. Is Byrne still at the
Scuderia? Once Ross is gone, they are back to Machevellian Ferrari
and probably chaos. Tody and Luca will not be able to hold it
together. My guess is Ross was an imposing force you did not cross.
Sort of like Darth Vader with spectacles.

Poor Kimi. I would have made sure that Brawn was staying before
making the jump. Kimi would have been better off at Renault. I fear
hugely talented Kimi will never reach his potential because the mega $
$ Ferrari waved at him. Sort of reminds me of Alesi fateful decsion
not to go to Williams.

Alonso is very smart, mature, well managed and an incredibly rounded
young driver. Kimi is blindingly fast and talented but the edge goes
to Alonso.



Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old   
Pete Fenelon
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: Stepney moves in Ferrari reshuffle - 02-23-2007 , 03:07 PM



wombat52002 (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk wrote:
Quote:
by Rory Byrne. Brawn and Byrne made Schumi. Is Byrne still at the
Scuderia?
Rory Byrne is utterly loaded and lives right next to a gorgeous
beach in Thailand where he has an amazingly beautiful young wife
who's also a gourmet cook.

Every year they have to pile absolute shitloads of money up in front of
him to persuade him to come back for a bit. Eventually he'll just say he
can't be bothered - and can you blame him?

Quote:
Alonso is very smart, mature, well managed and an incredibly rounded
young driver. Kimi is blindingly fast and talented but the edge goes
to Alonso.
Rosberg, Kovalainen, Hamilton, Kubica (and on the way up, Vettel, Premat,
Lapierre, (spit) Piquet...) - there's a good crowd of drivers on the way
up.

F1 needs a serious technical kick up the behind, but it looks like there
could be more good drivers out there than for a long time over the next
few years.

Once the tuggers (Barrichello, Trulli, Fisichella, R Schumacher) are
pensioned off things might start getting interesting.


pete
--
pete (AT) fenelon (DOT) com "it made about as much sense as a polythene sandwich"


Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old   
a_Frank
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: Stepney moves in Ferrari reshuffle - 02-23-2007 , 03:47 PM



On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 20:07:46 +0000, Pete Fenelon <pete (AT) fenelon (DOT) com>
wrote:

Quote:
Rosberg, Kovalainen, Hamilton, Kubica (and on the way up, Vettel, Premat,
Lapierre, (spit) Piquet...) - there's a good crowd of drivers on the way
up.

Also our boy Briscoe. he could be the next JPM.

Quote:
F1 needs a serious technical kick up the behind, but it looks like there
could be more good drivers out there than for a long time over the next
few years.

Once the tuggers (Barrichello, Trulli, Fisichella, R Schumacher) are
pensioned off things might start getting interesting.

Only if at the time when the new crop is properly "in", they will have
to still actually steer the cars. :-/
Personally, i can drive a GP car seriously fast you know.. It's all in
the mapping of the left and right steering to ',' and '.'. ;-p

--

Regards, Frank


Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old   
ts
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: Stepney moves in Ferrari reshuffle - 02-23-2007 , 08:47 PM



On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:32:00 +0000, Pete Fenelon wrote:

Quote:
Phil Newnham <pnewnham (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

I was assuming that Bob was bemoaning the lack of Herr Schumacher, and
not the lack of Ross Brawn, or the promotion of an HR guy (who,
incidentally, may or may not have an engineering background - we should
be told).


You can't be much of an engineer if you willingly move downwards
into HR - that's an occupation reserved for bovine, dim-witted
upper-middle-class Home Counties female Geography graduates (usually
called Zara, Zarah, Sara...) who draw florid and very bad pictures
of stallions, read abominable chick-lit on the Tube, tend to become
"a little squiffy" on two glasses of Chardonnay and think of
themselves as "a little bit wacky, a little bit Ally, a little bit
Bridget, a little bit Sex in the City", and tend to become faintly
orgasmic at the thought of vampire lust and shoes.

Death is sadly far too good for them. Yet they can fuck your career with
the same ease with which they allow themselves to be shagged by rugger
buggers.

The function of HR is to keep employees working as cheaply as possible.

The function of workers is to attempt to thwart HR at every possible
opportunity.
Wow! Serves you right for dating them.

-ts
Quote:
pete

Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old   
johnh3210@yahoo.co.uk
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: Stepney moves in Ferrari reshuffle - 02-23-2007 , 09:19 PM



On Feb 23, 3:07 pm, Pete Fenelon <p... (AT) fenelon (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
wombat52... (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk wrote:
by Rory Byrne. Brawn and Byrne made Schumi. Is Byrne still at the
Scuderia?

Rory Byrne is utterly loaded and lives right next to a gorgeous
beach in Thailand where he has an amazingly beautiful young wife
who's also a gourmet cook.

Every year they have to pile absolute shitloads of money up in front of
him to persuade him to come back for a bit. Eventually he'll just say he
can't be bothered - and can you blame him?

Alonso is very smart, mature, well managed and an incredibly rounded
young driver. Kimi is blindingly fast and talented but the edge goes
to Alonso.

Rosberg, Kovalainen, Hamilton, Kubica (and on the way up, Vettel, Premat,
Lapierre, (spit) Piquet...) - there's a good crowd of drivers on the way
up.

F1 needs a serious technical kick up the behind, but it looks like there
could be more good drivers out there than for a long time over the next
few years.

Once the tuggers (Barrichello, Trulli, Fisichella, R Schumacher) are
pensioned off things might start getting interesting.

pete
--
p... (AT) fenelon (DOT) com "it made about as much sense as a polythene sandwich"
Heikki, Kubica (a young Lauda?) and Vettel look very interesting.
Nico may still come good and I like his personality. Hamiliton has
been hyped to the moon but we will see very soon. Piquet is probably
a good one but he is an arrogant little shit.

Vettel could be the most interesting in the pack followed by Heikki.



Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old   
Gordon Baxter
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: Stepney moves in Ferrari reshuffle - 02-24-2007 , 01:49 AM



Pete Fenelon pete (AT) fenelon (DOT) com said:
Quote:
wombat52002 (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk wrote:
by Rory Byrne. Brawn and Byrne made Schumi. Is Byrne still at the
Scuderia?

Rory Byrne is utterly loaded and lives right next to a gorgeous
beach in Thailand where he has an amazingly beautiful young wife
who's also a gourmet cook.

Every year they have to pile absolute shitloads of money up in front of
him to persuade him to come back for a bit. Eventually he'll just say he
can't be bothered - and can you blame him?

Alonso is very smart, mature, well managed and an incredibly rounded
young driver. Kimi is blindingly fast and talented but the edge goes
to Alonso.

Rosberg, Kovalainen, Hamilton, Kubica (and on the way up, Vettel, Premat,
Lapierre, (spit) Piquet...) - there's a good crowd of drivers on the way
up.

F1 needs a serious technical kick up the behind, but it looks like there
could be more good drivers out there than for a long time over the next
few years.

Once the tuggers (Barrichello, Trulli, Fisichella, R Schumacher) are
pensioned off things might start getting interesting.


pete

I am continually amazed by people who say "I don't want to travel with the team
any more". Last week I met an old friend whose brother worked with Al
Holbert's Porsche team in the early 1980's, was on Emerson's Porsche team in
1984 at Miami in GTP when he decided to return to racing and won the CART thing
years later, then worked for Teo Fabi when Porsche raced in Cart later on.

I lost track of him. Well, he's been living in Indy for a long time, the chief
transmission engineer with Team Green, now AGR. He has his "corner in the
shop", is raising a family, doesn't want to take the offer of their burgeoning
ALMS P2 team, and is in so many words "just like Nigel". He doesn't want to go
on the road any more!

Reading about Stepney reminded of the guy.

His brother is a life-long friend and said to me last Saturday "Alex actually
hates racing now, he just wants to hang out".


The guy has seen it all, and he's only 42. 9-years younger than the likes of
me or his brother who I know.



Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old   
DC
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: Stepney moves in Ferrari reshuffle - 02-24-2007 , 03:36 AM



On 23 Feb, 18:32, Pete Fenelon <p... (AT) fenelon (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
You can't be much of an engineer if you willingly move downwards
into HR - that's an occupation reserved for bovine, dim-witted
upper-middle-class Home Counties female Geography graduates (usually
called Zara, Zarah, Sara...) who draw florid and very bad pictures
of stallions, read abominable chick-lit on the Tube, tend to become
"a little squiffy" on two glasses of Chardonnay and think of
themselves as "a little bit wacky, a little bit Ally, a little bit
Bridget, a little bit Sex in the City", and tend to become faintly
orgasmic at the thought of vampire lust and shoes.

Death is sadly far too good for them. Yet they can fuck your career with
the same ease with which they allow themselves to be shagged by rugger
buggers.

The function of HR is to keep employees working as cheaply as possible.

The function of workers is to attempt to thwart HR at every possible
opportunity.
LOL! And I thought I was cynical about Human Remains, all the
proponents of which I've ever come across, bar one, have been a
complete waste of space. The latest one I've had the misfortune to see
in action was brilliant at only one thing - job creation for herself.
I can't help wondering if you speak from bitter experience though,
Pete...

David



Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old   
Gordon Baxter
 
Posts: n/a

Default Re: Stepney moves in Ferrari reshuffle - 02-24-2007 , 03:52 AM



DC dcunliffe (AT) hotmail (DOT) com said:
Quote:
On 23 Feb, 18:32, Pete Fenelon <p... (AT) fenelon (DOT) com> wrote:

You can't be much of an engineer if you willingly move downwards
into HR - that's an occupation reserved for bovine, dim-witted
upper-middle-class Home Counties female Geography graduates (usually
called Zara, Zarah, Sara...) who draw florid and very bad pictures
of stallions, read abominable chick-lit on the Tube, tend to become
"a little squiffy" on two glasses of Chardonnay and think of
themselves as "a little bit wacky, a little bit Ally, a little bit
Bridget, a little bit Sex in the City", and tend to become faintly
orgasmic at the thought of vampire lust and shoes.

Death is sadly far too good for them. Yet they can fuck your career with
the same ease with which they allow themselves to be shagged by rugger
buggers.

The function of HR is to keep employees working as cheaply as possible.

The function of workers is to attempt to thwart HR at every possible
opportunity.

LOL! And I thought I was cynical about Human Remains, all the
proponents of which I've ever come across, bar one, have been a
complete waste of space. The latest one I've had the misfortune to see
in action was brilliant at only one thing - job creation for herself.
I can't help wondering if you speak from bitter experience though,
Pete...

David


I have a friend who has his Masters Degree related to HR, he's an asshole to
work with.

He's like the evil HR Manager in the Dilbert Cartoon strip.


Reply With Quote
Reply




Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.