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Technology for cars, not jetfighters!
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Re: Technology for cars, not jetfighters! -
08-02-2005
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Andy Hawkins <andy (AT) gently (DOT) org.uk> wrote in news:slrndeuao8.1r9.andy (AT) gently (DOT) org.uk: Hi, In article <ve8ue1le3mua963drlpphgfij5s15ofurp (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, David Melville<spamaway (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Not too sure about CVTs though. I'm not sure any team would want to "develop" such an untested method during a championship season. One of the teams (I think it was Williams, cos I seem to remember Coulthard testing it) was developing CVT some years ago. Just as they got it working, it was banned by the FIA (I think). Andy McLaren, protested by Ferrari. Or the other way around. Again, why the protest? |
Cheers,
Dave
Heart with Webber
Money on Alonso
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Hi, In article <Xns96A6C495EF769popematthewatbigpond (AT) 61 (DOT) 9.191.5>, Matthew Pope<popematthew (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: They're wrong. Well, Phil agrees with me...care to post a source to backup your statement? Andy Let's not get into all this fucking name calling again, and citing |
on thread for a bit (Sorry, I've been upset about other stuff).
Again:
Why was it banned?
Cheers,
Dave
Heart with Webber
Money on Alonso
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On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 09:31:26 GMT, Andy Hawkins <andy (AT) gently (DOT) org.uk wrote: Hi, In article <Xns96A6C495EF769popematthewatbigpond (AT) 61 (DOT) 9.191.5>, Matthew Pope<popematthew (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: They're wrong. Well, Phil agrees with me...care to post a source to backup your statement? Andy Let's not get into all this fucking name calling again, and citing cites and cites of cites and cites of sites. Can we just fucking stay on thread for a bit (Sorry, I've been upset about other stuff). Again: Why was it banned? |
it) tested it at Silverstone it was 2-3s a lap quicker out of the box. I
can imagine the FIA going nuts over the prospect of a dominant Williams
(it was about 92/93) team suddenly being that much quicker. They'd have
been 3-4s a lap quicker than anyone else I'd imagine until the other
teams caught up.
Cheers
Graham
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Hi, In article <Xns96A6C495EF769popematthewatbigpond (AT) 61 (DOT) 9.191.5>, Matthew Pope<popematthew (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: They're wrong. Well, Phil agrees with me...care to post a source to backup your statement? Andy |
Namely the ":-p", which is to imply I had my tongue pressed into my cheek,
or poking out.
Read the WHOLE post next time... ;-)
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Hi, Are you sure? http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns14206.html Quote:
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Aanhangwagen Fabriek in the 60s or 70s.
-peter
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You snipped the important part of my reply... Namely the ":-p", which is to imply I had my tongue pressed into my cheek, or poking out. Read the WHOLE post next time... ;-) |
un-necessarily). I assumed once I got to my sign off from the previous post
there was nothing more of interest...
Andy
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David Melville<spamaway (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Not too sure about CVTs though. I'm not sure any team would want to "develop" such an untested method during a championship season. One of the teams (I think it was Williams, cos I seem to remember Coulthard testing it) was developing CVT some years ago. Just as they got it working, it was banned by the FIA (I think). Andy McLaren, protested by Ferrari. Or the other way around. Again, why the protest? Because Ferrari are unsporting cunts. |
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2005-08-02, Andy Hawkins wrote: Hi, Are you sure? http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns14206.html Quote:
CVT is much older than that, IIRC it was developed by Van Doorn's Aanhangwagen Fabriek in the 60s or 70s. Is that DAF ? Then i agree. In fact the Williams one was developed in |
existence, just the first one in F1.
Btw, how the hell can you "recall" Aanhangwagen Fabriek !?
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Regards, Frank
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David Melville wrote: On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 09:31:26 GMT, Andy Hawkins <andy (AT) gently (DOT) org.uk wrote: Hi, In article <Xns96A6C495EF769popematthewatbigpond (AT) 61 (DOT) 9.191.5>, Matthew Pope<popematthew (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: They're wrong. Well, Phil agrees with me...care to post a source to backup your statement? Andy Let's not get into all this fucking name calling again, and citing cites and cites of cites and cites of sites. Can we just fucking stay on thread for a bit (Sorry, I've been upset about other stuff). Again: Why was it banned? IIRC when Coulthard (it was him 'cos I saw the footage of him testing it) tested it at Silverstone it was 2-3s a lap quicker out of the box. I can imagine the FIA going nuts over the prospect of a dominant Williams (it was about 92/93) team suddenly being that much quicker. They'd have been 3-4s a lap quicker than anyone else I'd imagine until the other teams caught up. Cheers Graham How sad. Innovation is bad, obviously. |
Cheers,
Dave
Heart with Webber
Money on Alonso
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In the case of CVTs for example, CVTs have a bad reputation for reliability still, mating a CVT to an 800HP F1 engine will iron out all of those kinks quite quickly. |
and it was nixed by the FIA, so it *is* possible.
-Dirt-
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