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Default Re: Thoughts on Hamilton - 11-01-2009 , 08:49 AM






Paul-B wrote:

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Happi and his BNP mates are incapable of seeing anything other than the
colour of a person's skin.
PRICK.

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Default Re: Thoughts on Hamilton - 11-01-2009 , 08:52 AM






Happi Monday wrote
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Paul-B wrote:


Happi and his BNP mates are incapable of seeing anything other than the
colour of a person's skin.

PRICK.
If Nick Griffin ended up in Quebec, facing the same folks who think like him
about preserving their culture, he would probably be pissed on because he's an
Anglo.

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Default Re: Thoughts on Hamilton - 11-01-2009 , 09:24 AM



Paul-B wrote
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Sir Tim wrote:

On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 12:23:32 +0000, Happi Monday <happi (AT) munday (DOT) com
wrote:

Ray O'Hara wrote:
and being Black is never an advantage.

Being black is what gets him all the attention (even though he's
half-white).

What gets him attention, at least in Britain, is his skill as a
racing driver - as I suspect you know very well.

Happi and his BNP mates are incapable of seeing anything other than the
colour of a person's skin.
I get a kick out of the goons who see "white culture" as one, big happy family.

Failing to realize that Muslims in Chechenya are white as well.

In fact, the world's biggest Muslim nation is "Oriental" (Indonesia). Not from
the Middle East. Persian or Arab.


But, as you said. They appear to see it as a skin colour issue.


There are many flaws with their ideology, starting with the obvious. The skin
tone thing.

I guess that it's easy for morons to attack the ones who stand out from the
rest.

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Default Re: Thoughts on Hamilton - 11-01-2009 , 09:54 AM



Happi Monday wrote:

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Paul-B wrote:


Happi and his BNP mates are incapable of seeing anything other than
the colour of a person's skin.

PRICK.
Very good sig for you. Keep it.


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Default Re: Thoughts on Hamilton - 11-01-2009 , 10:03 AM



Berf wrote:

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Paul-B wrote
When have I claimed otherwise? You're the one who's making the claim
that "The British hate a winner", not me. You're the one pretending
to speak for all Brits, not me.


When JV won in the Rothmans Cigarettes sponsored Williams in 1997,
there was a massive advertising billboard near my house on Toronto's
main drag, with Villey in the Williams. Tickets to the Canadian GP
were very tough to come by for years. And Canadians often self
criticise themselves has "hating a winner".


As a person who visited the UK in 1989 to attend the F1 race, I was
astonished to meet Brits in pubs who had no idea who Nigel Mansell
was.

I'm certain that when he won the DWC in 1992, that everybody knew who
he was.

(that's because in 1989, most racing fans barely knew what CART was.
However, by 1993 it had an audience in the UK because Nige had moved
to that series).

Same with Jacques in 1997. I hear that F1 wasn't all that popular in
Spain until Alonso kicked ass.
I've sat in various campsites around the world, at F1 circuits, with
people of all nationalities... Brits, Germans, Italians, Brazilians...
you name it, we've been there.

The best of us don't give a flying fuck about nationality... sure, we
love it when , for example, a Brit/Italian/Brazilian whatever is our
home country, wins or gets a podium or, as Jense did today, drives a
blinder anbd drives fairly.

I don't give a fuck for someone who isn't an F1 fan/follower and who
therefore doesn't know who Mansell/Gilleneuve/Whoever is... their views
don't matter. What matters is that those of us who love the sport care
and understand, and nationality really isn't an issue.

The fools who make statements like fuckface did, saying we Brits love
to hate our heroes are just that... fuckfaces. Who cares what those who
don't follow our particular sport think? In F1 we Brits don't love to
put down our heroes. And I really don't care what the great F1-unaware
unwashed think, they are like mayflies and their pov will dissappear
within a few months of the end of the season.

Meanwhile I'm celebrating a great F1 DWC, a great F1 CWC, and the fact
that they both are British is an added bonus, but not at the top of my
priorities.

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Default Re: Thoughts on Hamilton - 11-01-2009 , 10:37 AM



Paul-B wrote
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Berf wrote:

Paul-B wrote
When have I claimed otherwise? You're the one who's making the claim
that "The British hate a winner", not me. You're the one pretending
to speak for all Brits, not me.


When JV won in the Rothmans Cigarettes sponsored Williams in 1997,
there was a massive advertising billboard near my house on Toronto's
main drag, with Villey in the Williams. Tickets to the Canadian GP
were very tough to come by for years. And Canadians often self
criticise themselves has "hating a winner".


As a person who visited the UK in 1989 to attend the F1 race, I was
astonished to meet Brits in pubs who had no idea who Nigel Mansell
was.

I'm certain that when he won the DWC in 1992, that everybody knew who
he was.

(that's because in 1989, most racing fans barely knew what CART was.
However, by 1993 it had an audience in the UK because Nige had moved
to that series).

Same with Jacques in 1997. I hear that F1 wasn't all that popular in
Spain until Alonso kicked ass.

I've sat in various campsites around the world, at F1 circuits, with
people of all nationalities... Brits, Germans, Italians, Brazilians...
you name it, we've been there.

The best of us don't give a flying fuck about nationality... sure, we
love it when , for example, a Brit/Italian/Brazilian whatever is our
home country, wins or gets a podium or, as Jense did today, drives a
blinder anbd drives fairly.

I don't give a fuck for someone who isn't an F1 fan/follower and who
therefore doesn't know who Mansell/Gilleneuve/Whoever is... their views
don't matter. What matters is that those of us who love the sport care
and understand, and nationality really isn't an issue.

The fools who make statements like fuckface did, saying we Brits love
to hate our heroes are just that... fuckfaces. Who cares what those who
don't follow our particular sport think? In F1 we Brits don't love to
put down our heroes. And I really don't care what the great F1-unaware
unwashed think, they are like mayflies and their pov will dissappear
within a few months of the end of the season.

Meanwhile I'm celebrating a great F1 DWC, a great F1 CWC, and the fact
that they both are British is an added bonus, but not at the top of my
priorities.
Paul, when I was at Silverstone 20 years-ago, there were Brits who were backing
Eddie Cheever, and all that kind of stuff.

I was asked "who do you support", as if it was to do with "My team" versus "the
others". I backed Mansell at the time because I hated Senna and liked Nige, I
wasn't a Ferrari fan as much.

I didn't carry a flag. And I wasn't a Brit who carried Old Glory because I
liked USFG Arrows featuring Eddie Cheever!

If George Eaton was on the track and it was the 1960's, perhaps. But recently
there was a political episode in Canada to do with our former PM Brian Mulroney
and a now deported German criminal called Karlheinz Schreiber. Karlheinz was
Walter Wolf's buddy in Wolf F1, with Jody Scheckter as the driver in the 1970's.

Most Canadians don't know that.


But I didn't admire Sterling Moss because he was married to a Molson girl!

(He was married to one of the Molson family)


It's all about the drivers. Personally, I don't think that Damon was near as
good as Jacques Villeneuve. But it has nothing to do with how JV was a
Canuck.

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Default Re: Thoughts on Hamilton - 11-01-2009 , 02:20 PM



On Sun, 1 Nov 2009, Advanced Kitty wrote:

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Because it's been apparent in boxing, athletics and football for decades -
and they're all much more physical sports than F1.
I hope you don't really believe that boxing, athletics and football are
much more physical sports than F1, because they're not even close.

-s

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Default Re: Thoughts on Hamilton - 11-01-2009 , 03:18 PM



Steve Thompson wrote:
Quote:
On Sun, 1 Nov 2009, Advanced Kitty wrote:

Because it's been apparent in boxing, athletics and football for
decades -
and they're all much more physical sports than F1.

I hope you don't really believe that boxing, athletics and football are
much more physical sports than F1, because they're not even close.

-s
Agreed. But a triathlon might be? Or the Tour de France? (I know, I'm
not replying to the Kitty here, sorry)

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Default Re: Thoughts on Hamilton - 11-01-2009 , 03:38 PM



Steve Thompson wrote
Quote:
On Sun, 1 Nov 2009, Advanced Kitty wrote:

Because it's been apparent in boxing, athletics and football for decades -
and they're all much more physical sports than F1.

I hope you don't really believe that boxing, athletics and football are
much more physical sports than F1, because they're not even close.

-s
I always laughed when that American black guy raised Hell back in 2002 because
he was offeneded over how "winter sports' had nothing to do with "the black
man" (as if the olympics in Greece did) and the Winter Games were in Salt Lake
City, Utah.

He was Bryant Gumbel

"Finally, tonight, the Winter Games. Count me among those who don?t like them
and won?t watch them ... Because they?re so trying, maybe over the next three
weeks we should all try too. Like, try not to be incredulous when someone
attempts to link these games to those of the ancient Greeks who never heard of
skating or skiing. So try not to laugh when someone says these are the world?s
greatest athletes, despite a paucity of blacks that makes the Winter Games look
like a GOP convention. Try not to point out that something?s not really a sport
if a pseudo-athlete waits in what?s called a kiss-and-cry area, while some panel
of subjective judges decides who won ... So if only to hasten the arrival of the
day they?re done, when we can move on to March Madness ? for God?s sake, let the
games begin."

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Default Re: Thoughts on Hamilton - 11-01-2009 , 03:48 PM



Berf wrote
Quote:
Steve Thompson wrote

On Sun, 1 Nov 2009, Advanced Kitty wrote:

Because it's been apparent in boxing, athletics and football for decades -
and they're all much more physical sports than F1.

I hope you don't really believe that boxing, athletics and football are
much more physical sports than F1, because they're not even close.

-s

I always laughed when that American black guy raised Hell back in 2002 because
he was offeneded over how "winter sports' had nothing to do with "the black
man" (as if the olympics in Greece did) and the Winter Games were in Salt Lake
City, Utah.

He was Bryant Gumbel

"Finally, tonight, the Winter Games. Count me among those who don?t like them
and won?t watch them ... Because they?re so trying, maybe over the next three
weeks we should all try too. Like, try not to be incredulous when someone
attempts to link these games to those of the ancient Greeks who never heard of
skating or skiing. So try not to laugh when someone says these are the world?s
greatest athletes, despite a paucity of blacks that makes the Winter Games look
like a GOP convention. Try not to point out that something?s not really a sport
if a pseudo-athlete waits in what?s called a kiss-and-cry area, while some panel
of subjective judges decides who won ... So if only to hasten the arrival of the
day they?re done, when we can move on to March Madness ? for God?s sake, let the
games begin."
And just so you know, in 2002 the NBA players decided that the Most
Valuble Player was Canada's Steve Nash.
A tall white Canadian, who immigrated from South Africa when he was 11.

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