Thoughts on Hamilton

#1

In 2007 and 2008, I disliked Hamilton... immensely. He came across as a bit
of a so and so who has had everything handed to him and feels he is owed
plenty. Not saying that's how he is, just how he came across to me.

This year, he's different. Something has changed. I've seen his true
colours as a racer. He's not complaining about his lot at the start of the
year, having a grossly uncompetitive car, and got on with the job of racing
the car hard, qualifying hard and trying his arse off.

Kudos to you LH. Wouldn't be surprised to see you win handsomely tonight,
and challenge strongly for the championship in 2010.

Sometimes it's in how we accept defeat that we endear ourselves to others.

Seven shades of shit in front of Fred, IMHO.

#2

"Matthew Pope" <matt&samatNOSPAMiinet.netdotau> wrote

Quote:

In 2007 and 2008, I disliked Hamilton... immensely. He came across as a
bit
of a so and so who has had everything handed to him and feels he is owed
plenty. Not saying that's how he is, just how he came across to me.

This year, he's different. Something has changed. I've seen his true
colours as a racer. He's not complaining about his lot at the start of the
year, having a grossly uncompetitive car, and got on with the job of
racing
the car hard, qualifying hard and trying his arse off.

Kudos to you LH. Wouldn't be surprised to see you win handsomely tonight,
and challenge strongly for the championship in 2010.

Sometimes it's in how we accept defeat that we endear ourselves to others.

He raced his way into his spot. nobody handed him anything. if he'd sucked
in carts and the lower series he'd be nobody.
and being Black is never an advantage.
> Seven shades of shit in front of Fred, IMHO.

#3

Matthew Pope wrote:

Quote:

In 2007 and 2008, I disliked Hamilton... immensely. He came across as
a bit of a so and so who has had everything handed to him and feels
he is owed plenty. Not saying that's how he is, just how he came
across to me.

This year, he's different. Something has changed. I've seen his true
colours as a racer. He's not complaining about his lot at the start
of the year, having a grossly uncompetitive car, and got on with the
job of racing the car hard, qualifying hard and trying his arse off.

Kudos to you LH. Wouldn't be surprised to see you win handsomely
tonight, and challenge strongly for the championship in 2010.

Sometimes it's in how we accept defeat that we endear ourselves to
others.

The British hate a winner.
The class system has a great deal to answer for.
A shame, because at least half the population views the world through
shit-tinted glasses.
Hamilton was a born racer - and anyone too blind to see that either has a
heavy shade of shit going on ... or just ain't the sharpest tool in the box.

I think matters are obfuscated (word of the day - 10 points thanks) by the
Hamster's rather bland personality, which makes him less appealing than
other, more 'out there' drivers.

Quote:

Seven shades of shit in front of Fred, IMHO.

#4

Ray O'Hara wrote:

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"Matthew Pope" <matt&samatNOSPAMiinet.netdotau> wrote in message
news:Xns9CB6BB4B0D4E4mattsamnoSPAMiinetdo (AT) 216 (DOT) 196.97.142...
In 2007 and 2008, I disliked Hamilton... immensely. He came across
as a bit
of a so and so who has had everything handed to him and feels he is
owed plenty. Not saying that's how he is, just how he came across to
me. This year, he's different. Something has changed. I've seen his true
colours as a racer. He's not complaining about his lot at the start
of the year, having a grossly uncompetitive car, and got on with the
job of racing
the car hard, qualifying hard and trying his arse off.

Kudos to you LH. Wouldn't be surprised to see you win handsomely
tonight, and challenge strongly for the championship in 2010.

Sometimes it's in how we accept defeat that we endear ourselves to
others.

He raced his way into his spot. nobody handed him anything. if he'd
sucked in carts and the lower series he'd be nobody.
and being Black is never an advantage.

Amen to that, bro' (as they say across the pond).

A depressing proportion of the viewing population simply couldn't (and still
refuse to) reconcile this black man's racing superiority over his white
counterparts (particularly when he also happens to be the first black F1
driver on the scene) with their hitherto-unchallenged assumptions regarding
race.
Upshot ?
The kind of reaction to Glock's last race we saw from some Germans, last
year.
But we shouldn't have been surprised, having witnessed what we did from the
Alonso tifosi in Spain not long prior to that.

The principled, the moral and the thinking viewership simply recognized
greatness when they saw it - and took great joy in what was without
question, the most spectacular entry into F1 ever witnessed.

If Hamilton had been white, he'd be a living God rather than the subject of
the covertly racist, carping criticism of which we see the like in here, day
in, day out.

>> Seven shades of shit in front of Fred, IMHO.

#5

Advanced Kitty wrote:

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The British hate a winner.

Rubbish.

You speak only for yourself, not the rest of us Brits.

--
Paul-B

#6

Paul-B wrote:

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Advanced Kitty wrote:

The British hate a winner.

Rubbish.

Don't take my word for it, Google it.
Then you can come back and tell us all how the British admire success and
venerate the successful, hmm ?

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You speak only for yourself, not the rest of us Brits.

No, you speak for YOURSELF, not the rest of us Brits.

#7

Advanced Kitty wrote:

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Paul-B wrote:
Advanced Kitty wrote:

The British hate a winner.

Rubbish.

Don't take my word for it, Google it.
Then you can come back and tell us all how the British admire success
and venerate the successful, hmm ?

Remember the Mansell days... probably not. Moss, Hill, Clark, Hill...
all loved by the F1 viewing British public.

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You speak only for yourself, not the rest of us Brits.

No, you speak for YOURSELF, not the rest of us Brits.

When have I claimed otherwise? You're the one who's making the claim
that "The British hate a winner", not me. You're the one pretending to
speak for all Brits, not me.

--
Paul-B

#8

"Advanced Kitty" <nokia.account (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com> wrote in
news:7l52tiF3cb6b0U1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net:

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Matthew Pope wrote:
In 2007 and 2008, I disliked Hamilton... immensely. He came across as
a bit of a so and so who has had everything handed to him and feels
he is owed plenty. Not saying that's how he is, just how he came
across to me.

This year, he's different. Something has changed. I've seen his true
colours as a racer. He's not complaining about his lot at the start
of the year, having a grossly uncompetitive car, and got on with the
job of racing the car hard, qualifying hard and trying his arse off.

Kudos to you LH. Wouldn't be surprised to see you win handsomely
tonight, and challenge strongly for the championship in 2010.

Sometimes it's in how we accept defeat that we endear ourselves to
others.

The British hate a winner.
The class system has a great deal to answer for.
A shame, because at least half the population views the world through
shit-tinted glasses.
Hamilton was a born racer - and anyone too blind to see that either
has a heavy shade of shit going on ... or just ain't the sharpest tool
in the box.

I think matters are obfuscated (word of the day - 10 points thanks) by
the Hamster's rather bland personality, which makes him less appealing
than other, more 'out there' drivers.

Seven shades of shit in front of Fred, IMHO.

British? I'm Australian. I generally hate the British... :-) That's the
shit that's been tinting my glasses.

His personality is a little bit more likeable, a little bit more
interesting this year.

#9

"Advanced Kitty" <nokia.account (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com> wrote in
news:7l53n4F3c9hc7U1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net:

Quote:

Ray O'Hara wrote:
"Matthew Pope" <matt&samatNOSPAMiinet.netdotau> wrote in message
news:Xns9CB6BB4B0D4E4mattsamnoSPAMiinetdo (AT) 216 (DOT) 196.97.142...
In 2007 and 2008, I disliked Hamilton... immensely. He came across
as a bit
of a so and so who has had everything handed to him and feels he is
owed plenty. Not saying that's how he is, just how he came across to
me. This year, he's different. Something has changed. I've seen his
true colours as a racer. He's not complaining about his lot at the
start of the year, having a grossly uncompetitive car, and got on
with the job of racing
the car hard, qualifying hard and trying his arse off.

Kudos to you LH. Wouldn't be surprised to see you win handsomely
tonight, and challenge strongly for the championship in 2010.

Sometimes it's in how we accept defeat that we endear ourselves to
others.

He raced his way into his spot. nobody handed him anything. if he'd
sucked in carts and the lower series he'd be nobody.
and being Black is never an advantage.

That may be the case with others, but not with me.

Quote:

Amen to that, bro' (as they say across the pond).

A depressing proportion of the viewing population simply couldn't (and
still refuse to) reconcile this black man's racing superiority over
his white counterparts (particularly when he also happens to be the
first black F1 driver on the scene) with their hitherto-unchallenged
assumptions regarding race.

Just what is that proportion? Besides those Spanish dickheads (note,
they are dickheads who are Spanish, not all Spanish being dickheads) who
heckled and abused Hammer. I doubt that it's in the majority.

Quote:

Upshot ?
The kind of reaction to Glock's last race we saw from some Germans,
last year.
But we shouldn't have been surprised, having witnessed what we did
from the Alonso tifosi in Spain not long prior to that.

The principled, the moral and the thinking viewership simply
recognized greatness when they saw it - and took great joy in what was
without question, the most spectacular entry into F1 ever witnessed.

I begrudged the privilige he seemed to have thrust on him, without
actually acknowledging the talent that got him there. Nothing to do with
race, rather a "motivated" father helping get him ahead.

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If Hamilton had been white, he'd be a living God rather than the
subject of the covertly racist, carping criticism of which we see the
like in here, day in, day out.

I hope you're wrong. But we'll wait and see. Haven't seen him do much
"chopping" which I find quite attractive in his driving style.

#10

Matthew Pope wrote:

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"Advanced Kitty" <nokia.account (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com> wrote in
news:7l52tiF3cb6b0U1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net:

Matthew Pope wrote:
In 2007 and 2008, I disliked Hamilton... immensely. He came across as
a bit of a so and so who has had everything handed to him and feels
he is owed plenty. Not saying that's how he is, just how he came
across to me.

This year, he's different. Something has changed. I've seen his true
colours as a racer. He's not complaining about his lot at the start
of the year, having a grossly uncompetitive car, and got on with the
job of racing the car hard, qualifying hard and trying his arse off.

Kudos to you LH. Wouldn't be surprised to see you win handsomely
tonight, and challenge strongly for the championship in 2010.

Sometimes it's in how we accept defeat that we endear ourselves to
others.
The British hate a winner.
The class system has a great deal to answer for.
A shame, because at least half the population views the world through
shit-tinted glasses.
Hamilton was a born racer - and anyone too blind to see that either
has a heavy shade of shit going on ... or just ain't the sharpest tool
in the box.

I think matters are obfuscated (word of the day - 10 points thanks) by
the Hamster's rather bland personality, which makes him less appealing
than other, more 'out there' drivers.

Seven shades of shit in front of Fred, IMHO.

British? I'm Australian. I generally hate the British... :-) That's the
shit that's been tinting my glasses.

His personality is a little bit more likeable, a little bit more
interesting this year.

I'm British/European, and I'm not predisposed to hate anyone :-)

Hamilton? He's bloody good!

--

Chris

I am not young enough to know everything.
Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900)