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Tracy: Montoya's style not NASCAR friendly
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Re: Tracy: Montoya's style not NASCAR friendly -
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"Bigbird" <BigBird.usenetREMTHIS (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:4ho8m6FidecU1 (AT) individual (DOT) net... Da Frank wrote: On 14 Jul 2006 00:14:39 GMT, "Bigbird" BigBird.usenetREMTHIS (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Incidentally, can anyone here following Nascar tell me what's happening to the Aussie guy who went over there ? His name is Ambrose. >> The occasional times i tuned into our very rare telecasts, i didn't >> see his name anywhere. So he either drops out very early or doesn't >> even start anymore ? That would be funny.. he was not the most liked >> person here in our V8 touring car series. He's in the truck series not Nextel Cup or Busch. I'm guessing you weren't aware of that. Thanks. No i wasn't aware. We were only told that he is going to "Nascar" and it's been all quiet on the Ambrose news ever since. I never even knew there was a truck/ute series under the Nascar logo, we certainly don't get a glimpse of that here. I've never watched it but on the face of it, it would appear a bit of a drop down, status wise, from a popular series like V8 Supercars. -- Web-based F1, A1GP, BTCC, *New* V8 Supercars *New* +some oval thingy. http://batracer.com/-1FrontPage.htm?452 ---------------------------- I'd say it's a big drop. It ranks way below Busch even. The trucks aren't even trucks. Change the roll cage a bit, put on a new skin and they're the same as Busch cars. It's a series for rookies, never-beens and has-beens. |
promoted. I heard he had to sit out the first few races because
Nascar didn't think he had enough experience to race on the ovals.
- Jones
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On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 20:51:30 -0500, "Hal S." <h.sanders (AT) comcast (DOT) net wrote: "Bigbird" <BigBird.usenetREMTHIS (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:4ho8m6FidecU1 (AT) individual (DOT) net... Da Frank wrote: On 14 Jul 2006 00:14:39 GMT, "Bigbird" BigBird.usenetREMTHIS (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Incidentally, can anyone here following Nascar tell me what's happening to the Aussie guy who went over there ? His name is Ambrose. >> The occasional times i tuned into our very rare telecasts, i didn't >> see his name anywhere. So he either drops out very early or doesn't >> even start anymore ? That would be funny.. he was not the most liked >> person here in our V8 touring car series. He's in the truck series not Nextel Cup or Busch. I'm guessing you weren't aware of that. Thanks. No i wasn't aware. We were only told that he is going to "Nascar" and it's been all quiet on the Ambrose news ever since. I never even knew there was a truck/ute series under the Nascar logo, we certainly don't get a glimpse of that here. I've never watched it but on the face of it, it would appear a bit of a drop down, status wise, from a popular series like V8 Supercars. -- Web-based F1, A1GP, BTCC, *New* V8 Supercars *New* +some oval thingy. http://batracer.com/-1FrontPage.htm?452 ---------------------------- I'd say it's a big drop. It ranks way below Busch even. The trucks aren't even trucks. Change the roll cage a bit, put on a new skin and they're the same as Busch cars. It's a series for rookies, never-beens and has-beens. It's like 3rd division, but if he gets good results he can get promoted. I heard he had to sit out the first few races because Nascar didn't think he had enough experience to race on the ovals. |
Promotion has been the exception. Look who is dominating truck racing --
guys who never quite made it in Winston/Nextel.
Hal S.
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I wouldn't call that fat bastard much of a stock car expert. Which fat bastard? ;-) |
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Da Frank wrote: On 14 Jul 2006 00:14:39 GMT, "Bigbird" BigBird.usenetREMTHIS (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Incidentally, can anyone here following Nascar tell me what's happening to the Aussie guy who went over there ? His name is Ambrose. >> The occasional times i tuned into our very rare telecasts, i didn't >> see his name anywhere. So he either drops out very early or doesn't >> even start anymore ? That would be funny.. he was not the most liked >> person here in our V8 touring car series. He's in the truck series not Nextel Cup or Busch. I'm guessing you weren't aware of that. Thanks. No i wasn't aware. We were only told that he is going to "Nascar" and it's been all quiet on the Ambrose news ever since. I never even knew there was a truck/ute series under the Nascar logo, we certainly don't get a glimpse of that here. I've never watched it but on the face of it, it would appear a bit of a drop down, status wise, from a popular series like V8 Supercars. Sounds like it. We have a ute series too and most of the competitors |
Apart from Allan Grice.
Gricey was a great driver in his day, but he must be pushing late 50s
and if he isn't, he certainly looked it 10 years ago. Now he doesn't
even drive anymore just runs his team.
But for the scariest looking driver in your mirrors, nobody can
surpass this bloke.:
http://www.v8utes.com.au/index.php?p...ofile.php&d=28
Although we haven't seen the Doc in his race gear yet. ;-)
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Regards, Frank
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On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:13:23 -0000, "Sam Hayes Merritt, III" sam (AT) themerritts (DOT) org> wrote: In rec.autos.sport.f1 Harry Chest <harrychest (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote: Paul Tracy says Juan Pablo Montoya is in for a rude awakening as he prepares to switch gears from Formula One to NASCAR racing. http://www.racing-reference.com/driver?id=tracypa01 I wouldn't call that fat bastard much of a stock car expert. Don't like him either, but he does have a point. Compared to open wheelers, those stock cars are in slow motion. As in, if you watch the drivers especially on the bigger ovals, when they make a correction there is a huge lag in response time. Whether Montoya can get used to that remains to be seen, i still reckon he'd have been better off going back to Champcars. Incidentally, can anyone here following Nascar tell me what's happening to the Aussie guy who went over there ? His name is Ambrose. The occasional times i tuned into our very rare telecasts, i didn't see his name anywhere. So he either drops out very early or doesn't even start anymore ? That would be funny.. he was not the most liked person here in our V8 touring car series. -- Regards, Frank |
http://racing-reference.com/driver?id=ambroma01
10 of 13 races
1 top 5
1 top 10
1 pole position
has led 50 of 1490 laps run
avg start 11.9
avg finish 24.5
running at finish 8 times
lead lap finish 3 times
Kentucky Speedway, the most recent race, he finally showed
something nabbing the pole position and leading the most laps,
49, before finishing 19th one lap down to the leaders.
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If Montoya is any good, he'll figure it out. The cars in NASCAR are obviously slower. Learning to go slower is always easier than learning how to be fast. Yeah, but then there's the rest of what he said about the car's weight, fuel |
You're over simplifying what he said.
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Yeah, but then there's the rest of what he said about the car's weight, fuel loads, under steer, handling and set-up compared to Juan's driving style. |
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You're over simplifying what he said. |
nimble F1 car any more. The good drivers don't get confused. Just look
at Jeff Gordon when he and Montoya swapped cars. The guys with talent
aren't confused on how to make a car go fast.
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"I have to decide between two equally frightening options.
If I wanted to do that, I'd vote." --Duckman
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In article <26868-44B68E6A-379 (AT) storefull-3336 (DOT) bay.webtv.net>, NetZeroWard (AT) webtv (DOT) net (David W.) wrote: Tracy's driving style is not conducive to ANY form of racing, with the possible exceptions of Demolition Derby or Battle of the Monster Trucks. And yet he's one of the best dozen drivers in the world. |
Unser Jr.*?).
You simply cannot be "one of the best in the world" if you have not
raced in F1.
It's like saying someone who was a fighter pilot for his entire career
is one of the best astronauts in the world.
People really have no clue, do they?
*Unser was passed over because McLaren discovered he had been in Betty
Ford for alcohol addiction. Source: a friend at McLaren at the time.
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That I think was the point. Going fast like he is accustomed to doing will have you going slow in a hurry in an undertired overweight stock car. Going fast in a Champ Car, or F1 car takes a totally different mindset than going fast in a stock car. Ole DW is often quoted as saying "slow down to go fast". |
certainly a paradox in racing. To go fast, sometimes you have to go
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When he was racing, especially on some of the tracks that required heavy braking, he would find he was hearing back off in the headset. He would roll out of the gas early, not brake nearly as hard, let the car roll through the corner, but then be able to get on the gas earlier. He thought he was taking it easy and that he could have hussled the car far harder. The stop watch told a different tale. By taking it easy the lap times dropped signficantly with far less wear on tires and equipment. |
faster single seater cars, too. But, it's happening much more quickly.
So, for most ignorant fans, it looks like the "driving styles" are
different when it's really not. Again, the guys with talent know this.
That's why Jeff Gordon was able to get within 1.5 seconds of Montoya in
his Williams -- a car that was over half a minute faster than his Cup
car -- in all of seven laps.
It all comes down to taking care of the tires.
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"I have to decide between two equally frightening options.
If I wanted to do that, I'd vote." --Duckman
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That's why Jeff Gordon was able to get within 1.5 seconds of Montoya in his Williams -- a car that was over half a minute faster than his Cup car -- in all of seven laps. Montoya's car had a neutral set up in order to make it easier for Jeff Gordon |
way.
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