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What made the great tracks great?
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Re: What made the great tracks great? -
07-03-2003
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If Herr Schumacher had injured himself a bit more back in 99 at Silverstone maybe on his return he might have respected other drivers more |
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nahh I'm talking bollocks and I won't ever change. |
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Txl <txl@@free.fr> wrote in news:Xns93AC9691C537Etxlatfreefr (AT) 213 (DOT) 228.0.196: NOTHING in Indianapolis Banking, longest flat running. |
Sepang could have the widest track at the start/finish line and Melbourne
could have the "silliest" colors for the gravel traps....
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Amazingly, David B <spam (AT) davidbreach (DOT) co.uk> managed to post: At least they're not considering using the ridiculously tight Woodcote chicane they used for the World Superbikes a few weeks ago for any car racing :-) That's a chicane? I thought they were doing a U-Turn in the pits  |
afterwards, I realised it was even tighter than that... Silverstone must
have about 10 different configurations at the moment, it's quite
impressive :-)
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Amazingly, David B <spam (AT) davidbreach (DOT) co.uk> managed to post: Mike Buckley <mike (AT) toastyhamster (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote: They've even killed off Dingle Dell at Brands - don't they realise we don't want all the tracks to look the same? Er, the chicane was a pretty new corner. It always used to be a fast right hander, and that's exactly what they've turned it back into (just with more run-off). It's great that they've reverted to having what looks like it will be a *very* quick corner IMO. It was certainly a quick corner for the BSB Boys. Seemed to make it a little easier (for the bikes) to overtake rather than go single-file into the chicane. The last lap of both BSB rounds there were laps to behold. |
of them this year... My Octagon season ticket thingy doesn't cover bike
stuff, otherwise I would have gone to a few of them.
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Laguna Seca - bit twisty for F1 (hell it's a bit twisty for CART) but I'd pay good money to see JPM vs Kimi vs Alonso into the Corkscrew... Laguna is run by a private organization, SCRAMP. In the 60's they |
failed for many reasons, not the least of which is the remoteness of
the Monterey peninsula. They were successful, however, in staging
CANAM, IMSA and Formula racing programs in the US. They then sold the
facilities to Paul Newman & company, who immediately changed the track
layout. It used to be a straight run from what is now turn 11 to 5
(this is now interupted by the Andretti hairpin). Turn one was in the
middle of this straightaway, and took a high degree of testicular
fortitude to navigate flat (most times you would lift slightly to let
the car settle). So I guess what I'm saying is that Laguna wasn't
always twisty, it was neutered like all the great tracks.
LUGS
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They then sold the facilities to Paul Newman & company, who immediately changed the track layout. It used to be a straight run from what is now turn 11 to 5 (this is now interrupted by the Andretti hairpin). Turn one was in the middle of this straightaway, and took a high degree of testicular fortitude to navigate flat (most times you would lift slightly to let the car settle). So I guess what I'm saying is that Laguna wasn't always twisty, it was neutered like all the great tracks. |
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Pete Fenelon <pete (AT) fenelon (DOT) com> wrote in message Laguna Seca - bit twisty for F1 (hell it's a bit twisty for CART) but I'd pay good money to see JPM vs Kimi vs Alonso into the Corkscrew... Laguna is run by a private organization, SCRAMP. In the 60's they were lobbying the FIA to hold a USGP at their facility. This effort failed for many reasons, not the least of which is the remoteness of the Monterey peninsula. They were successful, however, in staging CANAM, IMSA and Formula racing programs in the US. They then sold the facilities to Paul Newman & company, who immediately changed the track layout. It used to be a straight run from what is now turn 11 to 5 (this is now interupted by the Andretti hairpin). Turn one was in the middle of this straightaway, and took a high degree of testicular fortitude to navigate flat (most times you would lift slightly to let the car settle). So I guess what I'm saying is that Laguna wasn't always twisty, it was neutered like all the great tracks. LUGS |
I think that if Ayrton Senna knew how many tracks had been slowed down after
his death, he would have been pissed. Modern day F1 tracks blow chunks,
and a lot of tracks got into chicanes as well due to his demise. The
European GP circuit looks like an over-valued go-Kart track (twisty bits).
Suzuka even added one a few years back.
Montreal has kept to a reasonable outlook, but even they added a chicane in
'95 (dumped it in '96). Why does a driver have to slow down to 60 KmH at a
chicane when modern day cars and run-offs are well considered?
I also think that Senna would have loved Sepang.
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I think that if Ayrton Senna knew how many tracks had been slowed down after his death, he would have been pissed. |
Eau Rouge, he'd retire... He'd be gutted that all these stupid chicanes
were named after him.
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"Lugs Harvey" <lugsandace (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:35139914.0307031303.7ddbcb62 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com... Pete Fenelon <pete (AT) fenelon (DOT) com> wrote in message Laguna Seca - bit twisty for F1 (hell it's a bit twisty for CART) but I'd pay good money to see JPM vs Kimi vs Alonso into the Corkscrew... Laguna is run by a private organization, SCRAMP. In the 60's they were lobbying the FIA to hold a USGP at their facility. This effort failed for many reasons, not the least of which is the remoteness of the Monterey peninsula. They were successful, however, in staging CANAM, IMSA and Formula racing programs in the US. They then sold the facilities to Paul Newman & company, who immediately changed the track layout. It used to be a straight run from what is now turn 11 to 5 (this is now interupted by the Andretti hairpin). Turn one was in the middle of this straightaway, and took a high degree of testicular fortitude to navigate flat (most times you would lift slightly to let the car settle). So I guess what I'm saying is that Laguna wasn't always twisty, it was neutered like all the great tracks. LUGS I think that if Ayrton Senna knew how many tracks had been slowed down after his death, he would have been pissed. Modern day F1 tracks blow chunks, and a lot of tracks got into chicanes as well due to his demise. The European GP circuit looks like an over-valued go-Kart track (twisty bits). Suzuka even added one a few years back. |
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Montreal has kept to a reasonable outlook, but even they added a chicane in '95 (dumped it in '96). Why does a driver have to slow down to 60 KmH at a chicane when modern day cars and run-offs are well considered? Are you kidding? Montreal has been described as 'six |
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I also think that Senna would have loved Sepang. |
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