I was just pondering. What was it that made the great tracks great?

Was it the challenge to the drivers or the spectacle of the racing?

And what if you took the modern F1 grid to say, Le Mans, Bathurst or
Laguna Seca? Would we get a dull as dishwater weekend or would they
still be great tracks and give us the racing we all crave?

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HooDooWitch <hoodoowitch (AT) nospam_please_baita (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote in
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Examples are

Corkscrew in Laguna Seca
Signes in Castellet
Tunnel in Monaco
Eau rouge in Spa
....

Basically if you look at the actual F1 tracks the result is quite lame

Nothing in Melbourne
Nothing in Sepang
Maybe the Senna S in Interlagos (Possibly because of the name)
Imola has been destroyed with the removal of Tamburello and Tosa
Nothing in A1 (the old one was good)
Nothing great in Canada (no the sign on the wall does not count)
NOTHING in Nurburg when you think of what they had with the Nordschleife
Adelaide in Magny-Cours (barely) maybe this year the "new" circuit will be
a little better, for once they did not add chicanes but big braking points
after long straights
Nothing in Silverstone
NOTHING in Hungary
NOTHING in Monza (destroyed too)
NOTHING in Indianapolis
The esses in Suzuka, and the chicane too

Possibly the most interesting circuit this year will be Suzuka, Esses,
chicane and possibilities of rain should make for interesting racing...and
let's hope the modification in Magny-Cours are going in the right
direction.

In article <Xns93AC9691C537Etxlatfreefr (AT) 213 (DOT) 228.0.196>, Txl <txl@?.fr>
writes
Have to disagree with a couple of those.

Parabolica - Monza
Bridge - Silverstone (although hasn't this recently been neutered?)


They've even killed off Dingle Dell at Brands - don't they realise we
don't want all the tracks to look the same?


Bring back Spa ffs!

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Pete Fenelon <pete (AT) fenelon (DOT) com> writes:


I think the purpose built racetrack part of Le Mans, even with the
rebuild after the Dunlop bridge, still ranks high above most of the F1
calendar. It would be a fun F1 track if they somehow connected Tertre
Rouge to the entrance to the Porsche curves. And how much closer
everything would have been for us walking spectators

What makes a great racetrack in my opinion is that the track is built
into the landscape and follows it like a public road would do. Combine
that with good scenery and you have Spa, Suzuka, Brands Hatch
(watching Champcars blast into Paddock Hill bend on TV put a tear in
my eye), Road America, Laguna Seca, Mid-Ohio, Le Mans, and pretty much
every track from the 60's

Tilkedromes (great name) is just a bunch of technical corners put
together with no character whatsoever. Boooooring

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"Txl" <txl@@free.fr> wrote:

Pre-chicane Woodcote was very special.

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In article <7mj5gvsoqjjr5mm930eafo2gb4lni30kb2 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, HooDooWitch
<hoodoowitch (AT) nospam_please_baita (DOT) demon.co.uk> writes

Nooo!

Let Bernie & Co keep their hands off Le Mans... it's been fucked-around
with too much, putting the chicanes in the Mulsanne Straight was
sacrilege!
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"HooDooWitch" <hoodoowitch (AT) nospam_please_baita (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote

: I was just pondering. What was it that made the great tracks great?
:
: Was it the challenge to the drivers or the spectacle of the racing?
:
: And what if you took the modern F1 grid to say, Le Mans, Bathurst or
: Laguna Seca? Would we get a dull as dishwater weekend or would they
: still be great tracks and give us the racing we all crave?
:

no traction control...
no auto transmission...
no carbon brakes...

all tracks will be great...

(and add "no push button speed limiters"... for some interesting pit
stops...)

FB

In article <bdut42$10qvt9$1 (AT) ID-98174 (DOT) news.dfncis.de>, Brian Lawrence
<Brian_W_Lawrence (AT) msn (DOT) com> writes
Ah, the memories. Sitting on the grass in front of the Silverstone Club
watching the cars coming down the Club straight into Woodcote.

Just the place to watch Tom Pryce or Tony Brise or Jim Walsh or Tony
"Strawberry" Strawson or Tony Lanfranchi sliding sideways into Woodcote,
collecting it and squirting off again way out in front... come bike day
the smell of Castrol R wafting over us as the 'bikes roared past...
jeez, we've come a long way and lost one heck of a lot over the past 30
years. That was with my ex-wife, who was not a motor-racing fan but who
loved the Club and "lower" formula days at Silverstone.

During which time we'd be eating my home-made chicken-liver pate washed
down with cheap but delightful chilled Muscadet (well, we wuz bloody
hard-up in those days, Muscadet Sur Lie was one step up from Muscadet
which was one step up from Gros Plant).

<brightens up>

Well, there's always the Formula Ford Festival and Goodwood now...
remind me, someone, when's Goodwood and do I need to book/fancy dress?
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Amazingly, "Brian Lawrence" <Brian_W_Lawrence (AT) msn (DOT) com> managed to
post:

Maggots/Becketts? Didn't Mansell say that they were a challenging set
of corners as his eyballs only came back to centre half-way through
the *next* curve?

To put Silverstone back as a *great* track would mean restoring Stowe
to Club (i.e. getting rid of Vale) and restoring Abbey. I'm happy with
Maggots/Becketts as it's a challenge before Hangar and provides
overtaking opportunities in Stowe if you get it right. I'm split over
the Priory to Luffield bit as including Bridge means it pretty much
has to stay, and I like Bridge. IMO Priory could be moved back a bit
and get it to pick up on the club circuit, creating a better
overtaking spot under heavy braking into a tighter Priory. Also, if
you restored this bit of the track, they'd be going a zillion mph
through Woodcote. That's why they put in a ... chicane. Doh!


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That would be real racing

J.R.