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Bon·ne·ville
 
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Default Re: 3800 RWD Questions - 04-11-2007 , 02:01 PM






In article <131getg4v48bv04 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com>, t120rv (AT) pacifier (DOT) com
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They used the 3800 in some Firebirds and Cameros which are rear wheel drive
so getting the RWD arrangement is not an issue. A local yard will sell me
"everything that you need" for $1200 wiring harness, radiator,
transmission, computer and exhaust. The engine has 160,000 miles on it.

The electrical should not be too bad unless I have to completely fab a
harness.

The dash gages may be a hassle.

I'll keep you posted.
Get the schematics and a big ass dry erase board and goto town figuring
out what you can tie into. Keep in mind a FWD 3800 supercharged ECM wont
know what a RWD 5-speed Manual is if thats what you intend on using. The
FWD auto transaxles and RWD auto transmissions would be "4T65e" vs a
"4L60e". Off the top of my head I'm not sure if the electronics are the
same or not between those.

Around here I could buy a complete late model F-body car with a 3800 for
less than $2000 at a repo auction (with about 100k miles). I'd hate to
gut one that isn't wrecked though. I always wanted to take a 3800 f-body
car and blend it with a 1956 Thunderbird replicar. Very simular wheel
base dimensions between them.

BTW what year is your Mercedes 230 CE?

Wiki has some good info on Buicks v6 here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buick_V6_engine

And here are some RWD kitcars with Supercharged 3800's.
http://www.angelfire.com/biz6/stalkerv6/kitcar.html
http://www.bruntonauto.com/Builders/builder.htm

They may have knowledge on wiring Supercharged 3800's together with
manual & auto transmissions. And as you can see the intake does run into
the cowl...



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Scott Buchanan
 
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Default Re: 3800 RWD Questions - 04-11-2007 , 10:21 PM






1985. Four speed manual transmission. No A/C. No cruse. Cloth seats.

Do you know about these cars?

"Bon·ne·ville" <sp@m.be.gone> wrote

Quote:
In article <131getg4v48bv04 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com>, t120rv (AT) pacifier (DOT) com
says...
They used the 3800 in some Firebirds and Cameros which are rear wheel
drive
so getting the RWD arrangement is not an issue. A local yard will sell
me
"everything that you need" for $1200 wiring harness, radiator,
transmission, computer and exhaust. The engine has 160,000 miles on it.

The electrical should not be too bad unless I have to completely fab a
harness.

The dash gages may be a hassle.

I'll keep you posted.

Get the schematics and a big ass dry erase board and goto town figuring
out what you can tie into. Keep in mind a FWD 3800 supercharged ECM wont
know what a RWD 5-speed Manual is if thats what you intend on using. The
FWD auto transaxles and RWD auto transmissions would be "4T65e" vs a
"4L60e". Off the top of my head I'm not sure if the electronics are the
same or not between those.

Around here I could buy a complete late model F-body car with a 3800 for
less than $2000 at a repo auction (with about 100k miles). I'd hate to
gut one that isn't wrecked though. I always wanted to take a 3800 f-body
car and blend it with a 1956 Thunderbird replicar. Very simular wheel
base dimensions between them.

BTW what year is your Mercedes 230 CE?

Wiki has some good info on Buicks v6 here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buick_V6_engine

And here are some RWD kitcars with Supercharged 3800's.
http://www.angelfire.com/biz6/stalkerv6/kitcar.html
http://www.bruntonauto.com/Builders/builder.htm

They may have knowledge on wiring Supercharged 3800's together with
manual & auto transmissions. And as you can see the intake does run into
the cowl...




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James Goforth
 
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Default Re: 3800 RWD Questions - 04-13-2007 , 01:25 AM



sdlomi2 wrote: "The Buick 350's would get to operating temp and 10-w-30
oil would lose its viscosity and cause lifters to start clicking and oil
light would come on--cam bearings? rods? mains? excess
clearance/wear...?"
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I think the oil pump configuration on those Buicks was prone to wear
as the housing was aluminum and the bore in which the gears rotated
would become enlarged after awhile, causing the oil light to come on,
etc. as you mentioned.
And at least in the case of the big block Buicks, the replacment front
timing cover (which housed the oil pump) became unavailable in later
years.
You could replace the gears and relief spring pretty easily though,
which would actually help some, but people didn't often do that but
rather just decided their engine must have too much bearing clearance
and hence lower oil pressure due to that.
Kenne-Bell was where I got my pump kit with oversized gears and an
external, adjustable regulator.
I always thought there was quite a bit a guy could do with the oiling
on my '67 GS400 without having to take the pan off -- when the oiling
became weak I was able to increase the pressure quite a bit by spending
about a half hour changing the pump, relief spring, and regulator.
Well worth the money and easy.


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