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Default Re: GM Tanks run empty without warning - 06-23-2003 , 11:24 AM






I wonder if other GM vehicles are affected as well? The fuel gauge first
acted up on my '99 Regal at 6,648 miles. The gauge would stay between 3/4
and FULL until the level dropped down to a few gallons, then the gauge would
regain accuracy. The sender/pump assembly was replaced. This happened two
more times before the warranty ended at 36,000 miles. The last fix has
worked until this week at 66,000 miles and now it's gone again. I'm going to
call the dealer that serviced it last and see if they can work with me in
any way since it's been a repeat failure since I bought the vehicle.

UPDATE: Just called the dealer, but they no longer are affiliated with GM.
They gave me the next closer dealer where they send their customers. I
called and explained the situation. "Doyle" was very courteous and suggested
I bring the car to him so he can verify the sender is the problem. He claims
he will call GM and feels pretty confident they can take care of it given
the circumstances. We'll see how that turns out. I would hate to have to pay
for a part that failed on three seperate occasions while still under
warranty. After 3 or 4 sending units, I'm determined that this car has a
voodoo curse or the actual problem was never solved. Funny how it always
works for a good while after the sending unit is replaced then fails again.
The car has never had anything but Exxon gas from local clean, modern gas
stations. (relative works for Exxon, so kinda biased)

Good luck to me,
Roger

"Robert Hancock" <hancockr (AT) nospamshaw (DOT) ca> wrote

Quote:
GM, for their part, says that sulfur content in the gasoline is what's
responsible for fouling up the gauge senders. Apparently this affects
2000-01 Cavalier, Malibu, Alero, Sunfire and Grand Am vehicles.

--
Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada
To email, remove "nospam" from hancockr (AT) nospamshaw (DOT) ca
Home Page: http://www.roberthancock.com/


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Petro-Canada blames `faulty' GM fuel gauges

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XXXXX
 
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Default Re: GM Tanks run empty without warning - 06-23-2003 , 11:33 AM






I know that Shell had changed some additives and caused issues on Chrysler
vehicles. I only use Esso gas and have no issues on my 2001 Buick Century
or 2002 Toyota Camry
"zroger73" <zroger73 (AT) cox-internet (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I wonder if other GM vehicles are affected as well? The fuel gauge first
acted up on my '99 Regal at 6,648 miles. The gauge would stay between 3/4
and FULL until the level dropped down to a few gallons, then the gauge
would
regain accuracy. The sender/pump assembly was replaced. This happened two
more times before the warranty ended at 36,000 miles. The last fix has
worked until this week at 66,000 miles and now it's gone again. I'm going
to
call the dealer that serviced it last and see if they can work with me in
any way since it's been a repeat failure since I bought the vehicle.

UPDATE: Just called the dealer, but they no longer are affiliated with GM.
They gave me the next closer dealer where they send their customers. I
called and explained the situation. "Doyle" was very courteous and
suggested
I bring the car to him so he can verify the sender is the problem. He
claims
he will call GM and feels pretty confident they can take care of it given
the circumstances. We'll see how that turns out. I would hate to have to
pay
for a part that failed on three seperate occasions while still under
warranty. After 3 or 4 sending units, I'm determined that this car has a
voodoo curse or the actual problem was never solved. Funny how it always
works for a good while after the sending unit is replaced then fails
again.
The car has never had anything but Exxon gas from local clean, modern gas
stations. (relative works for Exxon, so kinda biased)

Good luck to me,
Roger

"Robert Hancock" <hancockr (AT) nospamshaw (DOT) ca> wrote in message
news:qLyGa.215478$Vi5.5954666 (AT) news1 (DOT) calgary.shaw.ca...
GM, for their part, says that sulfur content in the gasoline is what's
responsible for fouling up the gauge senders. Apparently this affects
2000-01 Cavalier, Malibu, Alero, Sunfire and Grand Am vehicles.

--
Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada
To email, remove "nospam" from hancockr (AT) nospamshaw (DOT) ca
Home Page: http://www.roberthancock.com/


"bdrodge" <bdrodge (AT) hotmail (DOT) comcom> wrote in message
news:Xns9399F04576B70BurrBeast (AT) 66 (DOT) 185.95.104...
Petro-Canada blames `faulty' GM fuel gauges

See



http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...ar/Layout/Arti
cle_Type1&c=Article&cid=1052251825673&call_pageid= 970599119419







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Gruntyfs
 
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Default Re: GM Tanks run empty without warning - 06-23-2003 , 11:16 PM



http://edmonton.cbc.ca/regional/serv...ame=sl_5272002
has an admission from Shell.

Just after the warranty ended, my 94 Yukon ran out when the gauge
still read 1/4. The gauge reads hard over the top when the tank's
full, only dropping after about 200km. I refill every 500km or so
instead of relying on the gas gauge. It only reads true after a
good cold night (-30C), but is soon back up to false positive. It
isn't worth fixing.


XXXXX wrote:

Quote:
I know that Shell had changed some additives and caused issues on Chrysler
vehicles. I only use Esso gas and have no issues on my 2001 Buick Century
or 2002 Toyota Camry
"zroger73" <zroger73 (AT) cox-internet (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:vfe6unkle8rf59 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com...

I wonder if other GM vehicles are affected as well?

"Robert Hancock" <hancockr (AT) nospamshaw (DOT) ca> wrote in message
news:qLyGa.215478$Vi5.5954666 (AT) news1 (DOT) calgary.shaw.ca...

GM, for their part, says that sulfur content in the gasoline is what's
responsible for fouling up the gauge senders. Apparently this affects
2000-01 Cavalier, Malibu, Alero, Sunfire and Grand Am vehicles.

--
Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada
To email, remove "nospam" from hancockr (AT) nospamshaw (DOT) ca
Home Page: http://www.roberthancock.com/


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news:Xns9399F04576B70BurrBeast (AT) 66 (DOT) 185.95.104...

Petro-Canada blames `faulty' GM fuel gauges

See


http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...ar/Layout/Arti

cle_Type1&c=Article&cid=1052251825673&call_pageid= 970599119419







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XXXXX
 
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Default Re: GM Tanks run empty without warning - 06-24-2003 , 11:13 AM



Frankly if GM is using shitty parts and the fuel companies are causing the
gauge to fail, then they should pick up the repair cost irrespective of year
and mileage.

I have seen other brand cars with 10 years and 300,000 miles and no problem
and GM cars have issues after 1 to 2 years after the install of a new gauge.

What a rip from "America's Finest"
"Gruntyfs" <gfs (AT) lurkin (DOT) about> wrote

Quote:
http://edmonton.cbc.ca/regional/serv...ame=sl_5272002
has an admission from Shell.

Just after the warranty ended, my 94 Yukon ran out when the gauge
still read 1/4. The gauge reads hard over the top when the tank's
full, only dropping after about 200km. I refill every 500km or so
instead of relying on the gas gauge. It only reads true after a
good cold night (-30C), but is soon back up to false positive. It
isn't worth fixing.


XXXXX wrote:

I know that Shell had changed some additives and caused issues on
Chrysler
vehicles. I only use Esso gas and have no issues on my 2001 Buick
Century
or 2002 Toyota Camry
"zroger73" <zroger73 (AT) cox-internet (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:vfe6unkle8rf59 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com...

I wonder if other GM vehicles are affected as well?

"Robert Hancock" <hancockr (AT) nospamshaw (DOT) ca> wrote in message
news:qLyGa.215478$Vi5.5954666 (AT) news1 (DOT) calgary.shaw.ca...

GM, for their part, says that sulfur content in the gasoline is what's
responsible for fouling up the gauge senders. Apparently this affects
2000-01 Cavalier, Malibu, Alero, Sunfire and Grand Am vehicles.

--
Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada
To email, remove "nospam" from hancockr (AT) nospamshaw (DOT) ca
Home Page: http://www.roberthancock.com/


"bdrodge" <bdrodge (AT) hotmail (DOT) comcom> wrote in message
news:Xns9399F04576B70BurrBeast (AT) 66 (DOT) 185.95.104...

Petro-Canada blames `faulty' GM fuel gauges

See



http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...ar/Layout/Arti

cle_Type1&c=Article&cid=1052251825673&call_pageid= 970599119419









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Carlos Coimbra
 
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Default Re: GM Tanks run empty without warning - 06-27-2003 , 09:50 AM



zroger73 wrote:
Quote:
I wonder if other GM vehicles are affected as well? The fuel gauge first
acted up on my '99 Regal at 6,648 miles. The gauge would stay between 3/4
and FULL until the level dropped down to a few gallons, then the gauge would
regain accuracy.
Yes, that is the symptom of how things began in my 2001 Malibu.


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