Piss on the UAW

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After working 23 years for General Motors, Paul Harrison sought a job
Saturday with the domestic automaker's chief rival -- Toyota.

"I saw a lot of my colleagues here; even my boss was in line," said
Harrison, who will lose his job at the GM transmission plant July 1. "I
was surprised by that. The future of the auto industry is terrible
here. I'm looking for a job that pays well regardless of whether it's
in this community. Toyota is a good company and they make good cars."

Harrison, a 47-year-old licensed industrial mechanic, was one of
hundreds of job seekers Saturday who converged on the Toyota job fair
at the Holiday Inn...

...None of the job applicants were bothered by Toyota being a non-union
environment.

"If I can't hold onto my job without a union backing me, then I have no
business working," Harrison said.

How can any Union help him hold a job if he does not do it properly? The
day will come when the imports plants will be unionized in any event.. The
Honda Ohio plant will be the first, the way it looks

mike


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..None of the job applicants were bothered by Toyota being a non-union
environment.

"If I can't hold onto my job without a union backing me, then I have no
business working," Harrison said.

Where were you or (your parents) back around 1972 when everyone [started] to
buy those Great (Cheaper) Japanese TV's and other consumer electronic
products? Can you remember any of the names like RCA, Philco, Motorola,
Zenith, Emerson or Admiral etc? Plus all the brand names like Sears, Wards
and Pacific Mercury? All put out of business costing millions of Americans
too eventually lose their jobs, including me! Some belonged to a union some
not. All Japanese auto plants in this country should eventually be unionized
but that will dive up the price so we'll need a new invasion to reduce
costs. But, do we really need employment in America anymore? We are a nation
of consumers not workers, just ask the Chinese. I will not live to see it
but make way for the Cherry Blossom coming your way soon at a Wal-Mart near
you. Looks like they finally got to the auto industry and you. I say tough
Shit!


"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote

How can any Union help him hold a job if he does not do it properly? The
day will come when the imports plants will be unionized in any event..
The
Honda Ohio plant will be the first, the way it looks

mike


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..None of the job applicants were bothered by Toyota being a non-union
environment.

"If I can't hold onto my job without a union backing me, then I have no
business working," Harrison said.

"Sudy Nim" <pseudonym (AT) noplace (DOT) com> wrote

Where were you or (your parents) back around 1972 when everyone [started]
to
buy those Great (Cheaper) Japanese TV's and other consumer electronic
products? Can you remember any of the names like RCA, Philco, Motorola,
Zenith, Emerson or Admiral etc? Plus all the brand names like Sears, Wards
and Pacific Mercury? All put out of business costing millions of Americans
too eventually lose their jobs, including me! Some belonged to a union
some
not. All Japanese auto plants in this country should eventually be
unionized
but that will dive up the price so we'll need a new invasion to reduce
costs.

Why do you think the Japanese plants should be unionized eventually?

"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

"Sudy Nim" <pseudonym (AT) noplace (DOT) com> wrote in message
newsyM%h.114269$VU4.87083 (AT) bgtnsc05-news (DOT) ops.worldnet.att.net...
Where were you or (your parents) back around 1972 when everyone
[started]
to
buy those Great (Cheaper) Japanese TV's and other consumer electronic
products? Can you remember any of the names like RCA, Philco, Motorola,
Zenith, Emerson or Admiral etc? Plus all the brand names like Sears,
Wards
and Pacific Mercury? All put out of business costing millions of
Americans
too eventually lose their jobs, including me! Some belonged to a union
some
not. All Japanese auto plants in this country should eventually be
unionized
but that will dive up the price so we'll need a new invasion to reduce
costs.


Why do you think the Japanese plants should be unionized eventually?


I really do not as it is a loosing battle. The American worker wants a good

paying job (middle income bracket) with security, health insurance and
pension benefits. Money enough to buy a home and send the kids off to a good
education. That is a reasonable quest but getting hard to find today. No
industry (except for government jobs) will provide that. He wrongfully
expects that a union will! Those jobs started to disappear about 1972 and
nothing in the future will change that.

"Sudy Nim" <pseudonym (AT) noplace (DOT) com> wrote

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"Sudy Nim" <pseudonym (AT) noplace (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Where were you or (your parents) back around 1972 when everyone
[started]
to
buy those Great (Cheaper) Japanese TV's and other consumer electronic
products? Can you remember any of the names like RCA, Philco, Motorola,
Zenith, Emerson or Admiral etc? Plus all the brand names like Sears,
Wards
and Pacific Mercury? All put out of business costing millions of
Americans
too eventually lose their jobs, including me! Some belonged to a union
some
not. All Japanese auto plants in this country should eventually be
unionized
but that will dive up the price so we'll need a new invasion to reduce
costs.


Why do you think the Japanese plants should be unionized eventually?


I really do not as it is a loosing battle. The American worker wants a
good
paying job (middle income bracket) with security, health insurance and
pension benefits. Money enough to buy a home and send the kids off to a
good
education. That is a reasonable quest but getting hard to find today. No
industry (except for government jobs) will provide that. He wrongfully
expects that a union will! Those jobs started to disappear about 1972 and
nothing in the future will change that.

Oh..OK. I thought you meant there'd been major worker grievances already
against companies like Toyota, which would require the intervention of a
union. I don't follow it closely, but I haven't heard of any trends in that
direction.

On Mon, 07 May 2007 16:32:20 -0400, Mike Hunter wrote:

How can any Union help him hold a job if he does not do it properly?
The day will come when the imports plants will be unionized in any
event.. The Honda Ohio plant will be the first, the way it looks

Unions are only needed if the workers are abused (enough) to want to
organize a means to get better treatment from the company. Until those
non-union shops treat their people like the union shops treat their
people, there is little hope that Unions will make inroads into non-union
shops.

--
Leythos
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling
a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
spam999free (AT) rrohio (DOT) com (remove 999 for proper email address)

Amen. I worked in electronics for many years ... we used to say that
the Autoworkers measured their paychecks by how many Japanese radios
they could carry out of the store under their arms. (This was back
when we *had* a domestic consumer electronics industry.) Then the
Japanese started taking significant market share, and all of a sudden
it was, "Buy American".

On Mon, 07 May 2007 21:07:33 GMT, "Sudy Nim" <pseudonym (AT) noplace (DOT) com>
wrote:

Where were you or (your parents) back around 1972 when everyone [started] to
buy those Great (Cheaper) Japanese TV's and other consumer electronic
products? Can you remember any of the names like RCA, Philco, Motorola,
Zenith, Emerson or Admiral etc? Plus all the brand names like Sears, Wards
and Pacific Mercury? All put out of business costing millions of Americans
too eventually lose their jobs, including me! Some belonged to a union some
not. All Japanese auto plants in this country should eventually be unionized
but that will dive up the price so we'll need a new invasion to reduce
costs. But, do we really need employment in America anymore? We are a nation
of consumers not workers, just ask the Chinese. I will not live to see it
but make way for the Cherry Blossom coming your way soon at a Wal-Mart near
you. Looks like they finally got to the auto industry and you. I say tough
Shit!


"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote in message
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How can any Union help him hold a job if he does not do it properly? The
day will come when the imports plants will be unionized in any event..
The
Honda Ohio plant will be the first, the way it looks

mike


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..None of the job applicants were bothered by Toyota being a non-union
environment.

"If I can't hold onto my job without a union backing me, then I have no
business working," Harrison said.

"dbu.," <question*mark (AT) einp (DOT) com> wrote

In article <f6f162466bdbe0dfd0ef1d86383d9c2b (AT) mixmaster (DOT) it>,
George Orwell <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:

Windsor Star http://snipurl.com/1jofs

After working 23 years for General Motors, Paul Harrison sought a job
Saturday with the domestic automaker's chief rival -- Toyota.

"I saw a lot of my colleagues here; even my boss was in line," said
Harrison, who will lose his job at the GM transmission plant July 1. "I
was surprised by that. The future of the auto industry is terrible
here. I'm looking for a job that pays well regardless of whether it's
in this community. Toyota is a good company and they make good cars."

Harrison, a 47-year-old licensed industrial mechanic, was one of
hundreds of job seekers Saturday who converged on the Toyota job fair
at the Holiday Inn...

..None of the job applicants were bothered by Toyota being a non-union
environment.

"If I can't hold onto my job without a union backing me, then I have no
business working," Harrison said.

I've heard of more union workers complaining about the union dues and
not getting anything for their money. They used to serve a viable need,
but in recent years it seems they are only a drag on the workers
pocketbook.
--

I have a friend that was suspended for getting injured on the job. In a
Union shop. He wasn't TRYING to get injured. As a matter of fact, he
didn't realize he was injured until a couple days later. He is the only
person ever suspended because he was injured and it's definitely a violation
of the contract. So what's the union doing? Not much.

My grandfather would have given his life for the union. Now I've never
belonged to one that was worth the powder and lead to blow it up.

Charles of Schaumburg

Charles of Schaumburg

In article <pyM%h.114269$VU4.87083 (AT) bgtnsc05-news (DOT) ops.worldnet.att.net>,
"Sudy Nim" <pseudonym (AT) noplace (DOT) com> wrote:

Where were you or (your parents) back around 1972 when everyone [started] to
buy those Great (Cheaper) Japanese TV's and other consumer electronic
products? Can you remember any of the names like RCA, Philco, Motorola,
Zenith, Emerson or Admiral etc? Plus all the brand names like Sears, Wards
and Pacific Mercury? All put out of business costing millions of Americans
too eventually lose their jobs, including me! Some belonged to a union some
not. All Japanese auto plants in this country should eventually be unionized
but that will dive up the price so we'll need a new invasion to reduce
costs. But, do we really need employment in America anymore? We are a nation
of consumers not workers, just ask the Chinese. I will not live to see it
but make way for the Cherry Blossom coming your way soon at a Wal-Mart near
you. Looks like they finally got to the auto industry and you. I say tough
Shit!

I was in the TV business back in the early 60s working for Westinghouse
as a TV gun production engineer. We built RCA CRT designs.
I could see that Westinghouse and other USA companies were falling
behind with TV designs and left for the computer business in '63.

In the late 60s I bought my first color TV, a lovely Sony. I've bought
several Sony TVs since and have never looked back, nor have I had to
look for TV service.

It was not a union problem, USA management let the USA companies and
consumers down.
The Japanese companies simply filled a big gap created by stale USA
companies.