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Mike Hunter
 
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Default Re: Global warming what is the cause - 02-02-2007 , 04:55 PM






The nuts are running the asylum, it seems. They point to carbon dioxide as a
cause but carbon dioxide occurs naturally in nature. Trees depend on carbon
dioxide to live WE exhale carbon dioxide to live. Will they propose
cutting down trees or that we breath every other day, as part of the 'cure?'
LOL


mike



"« Paul »" <"« Paul » "@houston.rr.com> wrote

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HLS (AT) nospam (DOT) nix wrote:

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Even if uncontrovertibly true, I wonder if we Americans are
ready to do whatever necessary to try to reverse the greenhouse
effect?

Evolution in action.
Adapt or die.



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Default Re: Global warming - 02-02-2007 , 05:22 PM






The irony is, if you do a search you will discover that, the dinosaurs
roamed the earth for 165 million years and died out during the last few
million years. During the time the average earth temperature was four
degrees higher than today and the oxygen level was down to around 18
percent. At the time the carbon dioxide level was much high than they are
predicting it will be in 50 years. Paleontologists suggest the reason the
dinosaurs died out over time, and the manual prospered, was because of the
increase of the oxygen level, produced by all the giant vegetation, and the
lowering of the carbon dioxide, the vegetation consumed over time. The
mammals, with a diaphragm could breath better and grew bigger and stronger
as a result, and the dinosaurs, without a diaphragm, died out over time.


mike


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HLS (AT) nospam (DOT) nix wrote:

(snip)
Even if uncontrovertibly true, I wonder if we Americans are
ready to do whatever necessary to try to reverse the greenhouse
effect?

Evolution in action.
Adapt or die.

That's what the dinosaurs used to chuckle about.





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Edwin Pawlowski
 
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Default Re: Global warming what is the cause - 02-02-2007 , 09:32 PM




"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote

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The nuts are running the asylum, it seems. They point to carbon dioxide as
a cause but carbon dioxide occurs naturally in nature. Trees depend on
carbon dioxide to live WE exhale carbon dioxide to live. Will they
propose cutting down trees or that we breath every other day, as part of
the 'cure?' LOL


mike
And we depend on the trees to make oxygen. But we do cut down acres of rain
forest every day. I'm not buying either side yet, but is sure makes sense
to study and find if there really is a problem. While carbon dioxide does
occur in nature, we also add to it artificially. There must be some
balance.




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Default Re: Global warming what is the cause - 02-03-2007 , 08:22 AM




"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp (AT) snet (DOT) net> wrote

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"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote in message
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The nuts are running the asylum, it seems. They point to carbon dioxide
as
a cause but carbon dioxide occurs naturally in nature. Trees depend on
carbon dioxide to live WE exhale carbon dioxide to live. Will they
propose cutting down trees or that we breath every other day, as part of
the 'cure?' LOL


mike

And we depend on the trees to make oxygen. But we do cut down acres of
rain
forest every day. I'm not buying either side yet, but is sure makes sense
to study and find if there really is a problem. While carbon dioxide does
occur in nature, we also add to it artificially. There must be some
balance.
Mikes argument is a lame one. He begs the question, as is typical.
Recent ice coring at the South Pole (about two miles deep), shows that at no
time in the last
650,000 years has CO2 levels approached the highs they are today.

Dashes the volcano gambit, etc.




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Default Re: Global warming - 02-03-2007 , 12:14 PM



In article <w4WdnSZ0KNhw4l_YUSdV9g (AT) ptd (DOT) net>,
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
You will not find it on the major media but the question still is not settle
among real earth scientist as to the cause of the Global Temperature Change.
Climatologist, archeologist and others still lean to the natural forces of
nature, IE the sun and our relationship to it, variations in the tilt of the
earth axis, volcanic activity and movement of tectonic plates.
You and I are thinking the same on this Mike.
I'm forever curious for more info on the earth's climate when the Cyprus
Swamp trees that now grow in the Carolinas grew on Baffin Island. It
wasn't that long ago because I've read that some wood pieces aren't
fully petrified and can still be burned. Obviously the climate changed
very quickly else the wood would have rotted.
About 20,000 years ago Vancouver, BC was under a few thousand feet of
ice, much earlier it was warm enough here that a few tropical reefs
were created nearby. Now the Vancouver basin is rising from both the
release of that ice pressure and the rising of the western edge of the
continental plate over the Pacific plate at the main fault line about
200 miles west in the Pacific ocean. The rising ocean probably won't be
a threat here, in spite of media claims otherwise.
Living in north western North America allows one to observe earth
evolution in the raw.

Quote:
Global
Temperature Change, fund grants, and politics are related more than many
suspect.
IMO it's become a media and political event.
The flat earth society has been replaced by the Static Earth Society.


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Mike Hunter
 
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Default Re: Global warming what is the cause - 02-03-2007 , 03:00 PM



The balance needs to be in the RESEARCH on the many other reasons for global
climate change. Currently the research is directed at proving it is the
result of the activities of man. Is the fluxuation in carbon dioxide in the
atmosphere the cause of the temperature change or the RESULT of temperate
change? That question has yet to be determined. There are scientist that
study the sun who believe the change in the amount of carbon dioxide, a
naturally occurring non polluting gas, is caused by activity on the sun.
Until that research is funded as is man as the cause, the real cause can not
be known. Unfortunately today anybody who questions man as the cause, is
shouted down as a right wing fanatic.

mike







"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp (AT) snet (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:zs2cnc-966YVXF7YUSdV9g (AT) ptd (DOT) net...
The nuts are running the asylum, it seems. They point to carbon dioxide
as a cause but carbon dioxide occurs naturally in nature. Trees depend
on carbon dioxide to live WE exhale carbon dioxide to live. Will they
propose cutting down trees or that we breath every other day, as part of
the 'cure?' LOL


mike

And we depend on the trees to make oxygen. But we do cut down acres of
rain forest every day. I'm not buying either side yet, but is sure makes
sense to study and find if there really is a problem. While carbon
dioxide does occur in nature, we also add to it artificially. There must
be some balance.




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Mike Hunter
 
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Default Re: Global warming what is the cause - 02-03-2007 , 03:31 PM



I am only aware of deep core drilling in the Artic not the Antarctic but if
that is a fact, man was not around then. What caused it to go up, or down,
from current levels 650,000 years ago? The fact remains carbon dioxide
levels were much higher during the 165 MILLION years the dinosaurs roamed
the earth and they went extent 65 MILLION years ago.

While volcanic eruptions do effect the atmosphere, two thirds of the worlds
volcanic activity takes place under the oceans. Increased activity warms
the oceans. The prediction of increases in the El Nino effect are based on
underwater tectonic place activity under the Pacific near Hawaii. Reduced
activity cools the ocean as well Search Tectonic Plates


mike

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"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote in message
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The nuts are running the asylum, it seems. They point to carbon dioxide
as
a cause but carbon dioxide occurs naturally in nature. Trees depend on
carbon dioxide to live WE exhale carbon dioxide to live. Will they
propose cutting down trees or that we breath every other day, as part
of
the 'cure?' LOL


mike

And we depend on the trees to make oxygen. But we do cut down acres of
rain
forest every day. I'm not buying either side yet, but is sure makes
sense
to study and find if there really is a problem. While carbon dioxide
does
occur in nature, we also add to it artificially. There must be some
balance.

Mikes argument is a lame one. He begs the question, as is typical.
Recent ice coring at the South Pole (about two miles deep), shows that at
no
time in the last
650,000 years has CO2 levels approached the highs they are today.

Dashes the volcano gambit, etc.





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