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Re: Lucerne Lockout -
02-04-2007
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"Ken Weitzel" <kweitzel (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote in message news:7Znxh.875503$1T2.508287 (AT) pd7urf2no (DOT) .. ACP wrote: I have a 2006 Lucerne. In the past 13 months I've owned the car the doors have automatically locked five or six times after exiting the car. It has happened while exiting from the drivers side door and the front passenger side door. When this has happened I did not press the lock button on the arm rest or taken any action that should have locked the doors. Some of the times the key was in the ignition, pulled out far enough so the beeper did not sound, and some of the times the keys/transmitter were in my hand or pocket. Has this happened to anyone else? Hi Acp... Not a mechanic, just an old retired electrical guy, so for what little it may be worth... Have a Chrysler that would once in a while open the trunk with no apparent reason... Turned out to be the key fob - the trunk button was much much too sensitive. Just patting my pocket (to see if the keys were there) was enough to open it. I cured it by dis-assembling it and bending that particular contact further away, so it now needs a firm press. I saw the part where you had left them in the car and still had it happen... possible your spouse has a second fob, and it's the "bad" one? Just a thought.. Take care. Ken Thanks for the input. As you pointed out, with the transmitter in the car and well immobilized I cannot believe that's the problem. According to the manual with the door lock delay function enabled there is supposed to be a 10 second delay after pushing either the in-car lock button or the lock button on the transmitter before the doors lock. Well it works as advertised when pushing the in-car button, but when pushing the transmitter button the locks activate instantly. That happens every time. I only mention this as to me it shows the system is not working properly. I'll have to find out if all Lucernes operate like mine. I have to have the car in for some other service work and will bring up this problem. I can already hear the answer, "no problem found". That's the trouble with very intermittent problems. It happened to me three times where the keys were left in the car. Had to call On-Star to get it opened. That's OK, but now that the car is over a year old the "free" On-Star service has lapsed. Can't see spending 200 bux to renew it every year. |
mounting it underneath driver's rear via a stove bolt, fitted snugly with a
flat, a lock washer, and double-nuts. Then, put key on this "stud" and
secure using a wing nut, so she can unbolt it w/out a wrench. Plan on the
spot to drill for stove bolt, so key can be rotated out of sight of the
casual 'looker'. Saved me many trips. (Now that I am older, I put one on
my ride too!) HTH, s
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"ACP" <none (AT) noone (DOT) none> wrote in message news:wfOdnT4SgtcNuFvYnZ2dnUVZ_vKunZ2d (AT) giganews (DOT) com... "Ken Weitzel" <kweitzel (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote in message news:7Znxh.875503$1T2.508287 (AT) pd7urf2no (DOT) .. ACP wrote: I have a 2006 Lucerne. In the past 13 months I've owned the car the doors have automatically locked five or six times after exiting the car. It has happened while exiting from the drivers side door and the front passenger side door. When this has happened I did not press the lock button on the arm rest or taken any action that should have locked the doors. Some of the times the key was in the ignition, pulled out far enough so the beeper did not sound, and some of the times the keys/transmitter were in my hand or pocket. Has this happened to anyone else? Hi Acp... Not a mechanic, just an old retired electrical guy, so for what little it may be worth... Have a Chrysler that would once in a while open the trunk with no apparent reason... Turned out to be the key fob - the trunk button was much much too sensitive. Just patting my pocket (to see if the keys were there) was enough to open it. I cured it by dis-assembling it and bending that particular contact further away, so it now needs a firm press. I saw the part where you had left them in the car and still had it happen... possible your spouse has a second fob, and it's the "bad" one? Just a thought.. Take care. Ken Thanks for the input. As you pointed out, with the transmitter in the car and well immobilized I cannot believe that's the problem. According to the manual with the door lock delay function enabled there is supposed to be a 10 second delay after pushing either the in-car lock button or the lock button on the transmitter before the doors lock. Well it works as advertised when pushing the in-car button, but when pushing the transmitter button the locks activate instantly. That happens every time. I only mention this as to me it shows the system is not working properly. I'll have to find out if all Lucernes operate like mine. I have to have the car in for some other service work and will bring up this problem. I can already hear the answer, "no problem found". That's the trouble with very intermittent problems. It happened to me three times where the keys were left in the car. Had to call On-Star to get it opened. That's OK, but now that the car is over a year old the "free" On-Star service has lapsed. Can't see spending 200 bux to renew it every year. ACP, on wife's car I've been having a door-key cut for years, and been mounting it underneath driver's rear via a stove bolt, fitted snugly with a flat, a lock washer, and double-nuts. Then, put key on this "stud" and secure using a wing nut, so she can unbolt it w/out a wrench. Plan on the spot to drill for stove bolt, so key can be rotated out of sight of the casual 'looker'. Saved me many trips. (Now that I am older, I put one on my ride too!) HTH, s |
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"sdlomi2" <sdlSPAMomi2 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:2Ixxh.23358$fC2.12246 (AT) bignews4 (DOT) bellsouth.net... "ACP" <none (AT) noone (DOT) none> wrote in message news:wfOdnT4SgtcNuFvYnZ2dnUVZ_vKunZ2d (AT) giganews (DOT) com... "Ken Weitzel" <kweitzel (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote in message news:7Znxh.875503$1T2.508287 (AT) pd7urf2no (DOT) .. ACP wrote: I have a 2006 Lucerne. In the past 13 months I've owned the car the doors have automatically locked five or six times after exiting the car. It has happened while exiting from the drivers side door and the front passenger side door. When this has happened I did not press the lock button on the arm rest or taken any action that should have locked the doors. Some of the times the key was in the ignition, pulled out far enough so the beeper did not sound, and some of the times the keys/transmitter were in my hand or pocket. Has this happened to anyone else? Hi Acp... Not a mechanic, just an old retired electrical guy, so for what little it may be worth... Have a Chrysler that would once in a while open the trunk with no apparent reason... Turned out to be the key fob - the trunk button was much much too sensitive. Just patting my pocket (to see if the keys were there) was enough to open it. I cured it by dis-assembling it and bending that particular contact further away, so it now needs a firm press. I saw the part where you had left them in the car and still had it happen... possible your spouse has a second fob, and it's the "bad" one? Just a thought.. Take care. Ken Thanks for the input. As you pointed out, with the transmitter in the car and well immobilized I cannot believe that's the problem. According to the manual with the door lock delay function enabled there is supposed to be a 10 second delay after pushing either the in-car lock button or the lock button on the transmitter before the doors lock. Well it works as advertised when pushing the in-car button, but when pushing the transmitter button the locks activate instantly. That happens every time. I only mention this as to me it shows the system is not working properly. I'll have to find out if all Lucernes operate like mine. I have to have the car in for some other service work and will bring up this problem. I can already hear the answer, "no problem found". That's the trouble with very intermittent problems. It happened to me three times where the keys were left in the car. Had to call On-Star to get it opened. That's OK, but now that the car is over a year old the "free" On-Star service has lapsed. Can't see spending 200 bux to renew it every year. ACP, on wife's car I've been having a door-key cut for years, and been mounting it underneath driver's rear via a stove bolt, fitted snugly with a flat, a lock washer, and double-nuts. Then, put key on this "stud" and secure using a wing nut, so she can unbolt it w/out a wrench. Plan on the spot to drill for stove bolt, so key can be rotated out of sight of the casual 'looker'. Saved me many trips. (Now that I am older, I put one on my ride too!) HTH, s What is "driver's rear"? |
rear bumper on driver's side--but further underneath and still
reachable-from-kneeling down at rear of car. Sometimes you may even use the
bumper itself, running bolt from bottom of bumper thru it with threads above
bmpr. Sometimes, bumper position won't allow you to hide the key once
bolted in place--hence you then look further underneath vehicle and maybe
put bolt thru a 'lip' formed by unibody panels. Lie down on your back &
look up & around for easy to reach, yet hard to see location. Really lucky
if your doorkey is also your ignition key AND the key carries a microchip
AND KMart can cut an old-type key that will open door and will turn on
ignition BUT will not allow engine to start and run due to NO
microchip--$1.00 item will open door to access keys left in ign. switch but
disallow a thief from finding hiding place & driving off w/your car. HTH, s
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"ACP" <none (AT) noone (DOT) none> wrote in message Well it works as advertised when pushing the in-car button, but when pushing the transmitter button the locks activate instantly. That happens every time. I only mention this as to me it shows the system is not working properly. I'll have to find out if all Lucernes operate like mine. You can be sure they don't just lock themselves. |
brother has a Pontiac that exhibited this problem. Open the door, get out
and close the door, and presto, the doors would lock - all by themselves. I
know he took it back to the dealer for some work, but I don't know what the
dealer did to the car.
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| It happened to me three times where the keys were left in the car. Had to call On-Star to get it opened. That's OK, but now that the car is over a year old the "free" On-Star service has lapsed. Can't see spending 200 bux to renew it every year. Carry the valet key in your wallet or get one made that is flat, no plastic on the end. Or just stop leaving your keys in the car. |
This has come up quite a few times on this group. There are some very valid
times to leave the keys in the car. The doors should not lock themselves,
and this is a problem of the car, not of leaving the keys in the car.
There's a good chance, based on the experience my brother had, that the
dealer can fix this problem though.
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-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE (AT) alltel (DOT) net
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You can be sure they don't just lock themselves. Actually, some problems with GM's just locking themselves does occur. My brother has a Pontiac that exhibited this problem. |
Yes, what I meant was, they don't lock by themselves by design. I'm sure
they do by some problem.
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"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp (AT) snet (DOT) net> wrote in message news:HWpxh.1574$gj4.766 (AT) newssvr14 (DOT) news.prodigy.net... "ACP" <none (AT) noone (DOT) none> wrote in message Well it works as advertised when pushing the in-car button, but when pushing the transmitter button the locks activate instantly. That happens every time. I only mention this as to me it shows the system is not working properly. I'll have to find out if all Lucernes operate like mine. You can be sure they don't just lock themselves. Actually, some problems with GM's just locking themselves does occur. My brother has a Pontiac that exhibited this problem. Open the door, get out and close the door, and presto, the doors would lock - all by themselves. I know he took it back to the dealer for some work, but I don't know what the dealer did to the car. It happened to me three times where the keys were left in the car. Had to call On-Star to get it opened. That's OK, but now that the car is over a year old the "free" On-Star service has lapsed. Can't see spending 200 bux to renew it every year. Carry the valet key in your wallet or get one made that is flat, no plastic on the end. Or just stop leaving your keys in the car. This has come up quite a few times on this group. There are some very valid times to leave the keys in the car. The doors should not lock themselves, and this is a problem of the car, not of leaving the keys in the car. There's a good chance, based on the experience my brother had, that the dealer can fix this problem though. -- -Mike- mmarlowREMOVE (AT) alltel (DOT) net |
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